I'm Torn

[Da_U_85]

If you go team by team the teams golden faced are way easier than Shannon. There is no if ands or butts about it. You don't get to say its a wash cause your wrong. The league was better, with better players, and we face tougher out of conference compettion.

Let me ask you this whose fault is it that he changed schemes? Who fault is it players had a learning curve? So no excuses.

You mean Randy didn't hand his playbook to Golden on the way out the door? Gee, that's how I thought things worked.

One would think I would be dealing with intelligent people. Scheme meaning 4-3 to 3-4.

But since u bring it up, maybe golden should have offered his wife to Shannon for his playbook since his seems like ****.

Sorry Nikola Tesla, guess I'm not as bright as you. You're right though -- a guy who's previously been a defensive coordinator should drop his defensive playbook in order to copy his predecessor. Is that how you do your job?

If after I try and my results are not equal or better, yes I would ask how my predecessor for his formula. You see in the real world you have to adapt or die. I refuse to die.

 

[Gatorhater]

Randy was a mess. Disorganized and no control. Defense was better than Al's, but let's not forget that is not much of a hurdle. Under Randy, the offense had trouble getting off a play and illegal motion penalties were ridiculous. Recruiting was disjointed but still some talent. Al is better organized and team looks better disciplined. Al has a plan and follows it. Those a good things. Unfortunately, the plan appears to suck and the art of tackling, weak under Randy, as all but disappeared under Al. Adjustments seems beyond both. In short, Randy was the only person warn about the little slim and Al did nice job cleaning up Donna cow pie. So let's call the ncaa thing even for them both. Best on last year, neither can coach his way out of a paper bag with no bottom to it. Al has chance to prove himself a coach this year. As it stands, neither has impressed.

 

[Waffle Honcho]

If you go team by team the teams golden faced are way easier than Shannon. There is no if ands or butts about it. You don't get to say its a wash cause your wrong. The league was better, with better players, and we face tougher out of conference compettion.

Let me ask you this whose fault is it that he changed schemes? Who fault is it players had a learning curve? So no excuses.

You mean Randy didn't hand his playbook to Golden on the way out the door? Gee, that's how I thought things worked.

One would think I would be dealing with intelligent people. Scheme meaning 4-3 to 3-4.

But since u bring it up, maybe golden should have offered his wife to Shannon for his playbook since his seems like ****.

Sorry Nikola Tesla, guess I'm not as bright as you. You're right though -- a guy who's previously been a defensive coordinator should drop his defensive playbook in order to copy his predecessor. Is that how you do your job?

If after I try and my results are not equal or better, yes I would ask how my predecessor for his formula. You see in the real world you have to adapt or die. I refuse to die.

Non-sequiturs galore with you. Not asking what you do after you fail, I'm asking how do you approach a new task. Do you start with what you're familiar with and what's worked in the past for you, or do you begin by imitating your predecessor despite having no familiarity with their methods?

 

[chicanego]

+ 1 for Randy for taking the time to recruit Miami Central High. Oh wait...

+1 for Golden for taking the time to recruit DT's. Oh wait...

/Oh, he recruits them and nobody wants to play for him.

Except the 4 that we signed this year. Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your agenda.

We're relying on Corey King and Earl Moore to carry the load next year at that position next year.

We sign three 3* DT's last year and one 4* and suddenly he's absolved for previously failing to recruit this position?

A big reason our defense has been shredded throughout the Golden era (and why we have huge concerns at the position for next year) is that we've failed to recruit difference makers at DT.

Don't let your agenda of slurping anything Golden get in the way of the harsh reality that failing to recruit (and develop) the position for that matter has been a big reason our defense has struggled.

Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever and Chicagnego says DT's don't want to play for Golden and has the gall to say others have an agenda.

Yeah makes total sense buddy.

Stopped reading after "Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever." Golden could have signed a blow-up doll to play DT in last year's class and it would have been his best haul DT in his tenure at Miami.

Don't let your agenda of hating on Golden get in the way of understanding that most rational, normal people are waiting to give him a chance to prove himself.

Three full seasons and zero improvement on defense tells me all I need to know about Al Golden. I'd love to be wrong, but evidence he is in over his head is overwhelming.

Seriously, how many years do you want to give this guy? If we'd shown improvement along the way I'd be plenty more patient. But the idea that we're trending upward is a joke.

But there have been trends under Al:

You call people who want to give him a chance to prove himself rational. I look at the complete lack of improvement and call those same fans neutered.

Signing Moten and Wyche was a pretty good haul. I'm putting my money on Pierre and either Wyche or Heurtelou to be the starters. We still need drastic improvement at the position, but Moten and Wyche were a **** fine start.

You're right, except it wasn't a start. This was his fourth recruiting class (third if you discount 2011). To say signing a Michael Wyche or Anthony Moten is long overdue is the understatement of the century.

What's absolutely terrifying is that we need Michael Wyche to come in and make a big difference or we are ****ed. That's the position Golden has put this team in.

 

[Miami82]

+1 for Golden for taking the time to recruit DT's. Oh wait...

/Oh, he recruits them and nobody wants to play for him.

Except the 4 that we signed this year. Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your agenda.

We're relying on Corey King and Earl Moore to carry the load next year at that position next year.

We sign three 3* DT's last year and one 4* and suddenly he's absolved for previously failing to recruit this position?

A big reason our defense has been shredded throughout the Golden era (and why we have huge concerns at the position for next year) is that we've failed to recruit difference makers at DT.

Don't let your agenda of slurping anything Golden get in the way of the harsh reality that failing to recruit (and develop) the position for that matter has been a big reason our defense has struggled.

Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever and Chicagnego says DT's don't want to play for Golden and has the gall to say others have an agenda.

Yeah makes total sense buddy.

Stopped reading after "Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever." Golden could have signed a blow-up doll to play DT in last year's class and it would have been his best haul DT in his tenure at Miami.

Don't let your agenda of hating on Golden get in the way of understanding that most rational, normal people are waiting to give him a chance to prove himself.

Three full seasons and zero improvement on defense tells me all I need to know about Al Golden. I'd love to be wrong, but evidence he is in over his head is overwhelming.

Seriously, how many years do you want to give this guy? If we'd shown improvement along the way I'd be plenty more patient. But the idea that we're trending upward is a joke.

But there have been trends under Al:

You call people who want to give him a chance to prove himself rational. I look at the complete lack of improvement and call those same fans neutered.

Signing Moten and Wyche was a pretty good haul. I'm putting my money on Pierre and either Wyche or Heurtelou to be the starters. We still need drastic improvement at the position, but Moten and Wyche were a **** fine start.

You're right, except it wasn't a start. This was his fourth recruiting class (third if you discount 2011). To say signing a Michael Wyche or Anthony Moten is long overdue is the understatement of the century.

What's absolutely terrifying is that we need Michael Wyche to come in and make a big difference or we are ****ed. That's the position Golden has put this team in.

This all day long.

 

[pyhooya]

Randy was a mess. Disorganized and no control. Defense was better than Al's, but let's not forget that is not much of a hurdle. Under Randy, the offense had trouble getting off a play and illegal motion penalties were ridiculous. Recruiting was disjointed but still some talent. Al is better organized and team looks better disciplined. Al has a plan and follows it. Those a good things. Unfortunately, the plan appears to suck and the art of tackling, weak under Randy, as all but disappeared under Al. Adjustments seems beyond both. In short, Randy was the only person warn about the little slim and Al did nice job cleaning up Donna cow pie. So let's call the ncaa thing even for them both. Best on last year, neither can coach his way out of a paper bag with no bottom to it. Al has chance to prove himself a coach this year. As it stands, neither has impressed.

How the **** is it a wash? Randy's coaches were having Shapiro paying recruits to come here. Golden had to deal with players being suspended cause of Radio, 3 year investigation cause of things that happened under Radio and negative recruiting by other schools saying Miami was getting the death penalty. I am not saying that is what has held Golden back cause he has not done a good job but to call it a wash is idiotic. You also left out that we would be out of timeouts 5 minutes into the game. The NCAA thing is Radio and staff breaking the rules and Golden paying the price.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

+1 for wandy giving us a 3 yr investigation and FSUs best teams ever. Oh wait. Regardless i cant wait to see a new HC next yr

Please give it up already if somebody is at fault it would be the school president

 

[Da_U_85]

You mean Randy didn't hand his playbook to Golden on the way out the door? Gee, that's how I thought things worked.

One would think I would be dealing with intelligent people. Scheme meaning 4-3 to 3-4.

But since u bring it up, maybe golden should have offered his wife to Shannon for his playbook since his seems like ****.

Sorry Nikola Tesla, guess I'm not as bright as you. You're right though -- a guy who's previously been a defensive coordinator should drop his defensive playbook in order to copy his predecessor. Is that how you do your job?

If after I try and my results are not equal or better, yes I would ask how my predecessor for his formula. You see in the real world you have to adapt or die. I refuse to die.

Non-sequiturs galore with you. Not asking what you do after you fail, I'm asking how do you approach a new task. Do you start with what you're familiar with and what's worked in the past for you, or do you begin by imitating your predecessor despite having no familiarity with their methods?

The question is has it really worked for them. **** if I was a mediocre type of person I guess I would be fine. But I try to be the best so yes I would change my mediocre ways.

 

[Da_U_85]

Randy was a mess. Disorganized and no control. Defense was better than Al's, but let's not forget that is not much of a hurdle. Under Randy, the offense had trouble getting off a play and illegal motion penalties were ridiculous. Recruiting was disjointed but still some talent. Al is better organized and team looks better disciplined. Al has a plan and follows it. Those a good things. Unfortunately, the plan appears to suck and the art of tackling, weak under Randy, as all but disappeared under Al. Adjustments seems beyond both. In short, Randy was the only person warn about the little slim and Al did nice job cleaning up Donna cow pie. So let's call the ncaa thing even for them both. Best on last year, neither can coach his way out of a paper bag with no bottom to it. Al has chance to prove himself a coach this year. As it stands, neither has impressed.

How the **** is it a wash? Randy's coaches were having Shapiro paying recruits to come here. Golden had to deal with players being suspended cause of Radio, 3 year investigation cause of things that happened under Radio and negative recruiting by other schools saying Miami was getting the death penalty. I am not saying that is what has held Golden back cause he has not done a good job but to call it a wash is idiotic. You also left out that we would be out of timeouts 5 minutes into the game. The NCAA thing is Radio and staff breaking the rules and Golden paying the price.

Glad we had all our time outs at the end of the Louisville game.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

One would think I would be dealing with intelligent people. Scheme meaning 4-3 to 3-4.

But since u bring it up, maybe golden should have offered his wife to Shannon for his playbook since his seems like ****.

Sorry Nikola Tesla, guess I'm not as bright as you. You're right though -- a guy who's previously been a defensive coordinator should drop his defensive playbook in order to copy his predecessor. Is that how you do your job?

If after I try and my results are not equal or better, yes I would ask how my predecessor for his formula. You see in the real world you have to adapt or die. I refuse to die.

Non-sequiturs galore with you. Not asking what you do after you fail, I'm asking how do you approach a new task. Do you start with what you're familiar with and what's worked in the past for you, or do you begin by imitating your predecessor despite having no familiarity with their methods?

The question is has it really worked for them. **** if I was a mediocre type of person I guess I would be fine. But I try to be the best so yes I would change my mediocre ways.

Excpet that the 2011 team gave up less points per game and less rushing yards per game then the 2010 team.

You lose.

 

[Bigtip]

Randy was an abomination.

this is hilarious.

Randy's 2009 team would beat the brakes off of any one of F.A.G.'s teams. **** the 2010 team would beat down F.A.G.s teams

 

[niner]

Randy was an abomination.

this is hilarious.

Randy's 2009 team would beat the brakes off of any one of F.A.G.'s teams. **** the 2010 team would beat down F.A.G.s teams

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Randy was an abomination.

this is hilarious.

Randy's 2009 team would beat the brakes off of any one of F.A.G.'s teams. **** the 2010 team would beat down F.A.G.s teams

So far in coaching i would give the edge to RS, at least he beat fsu but over all both of them dont have any buisness being a HC. RS fired people too unlike AG

 

[Bigtip]

+1 for Golden for taking the time to recruit DT's. Oh wait...

/Oh, he recruits them and nobody wants to play for him.

Except the 4 that we signed this year. Don't let pesky facts get in the way of your agenda.

We're relying on Corey King and Earl Moore to carry the load next year at that position next year.

We sign three 3* DT's last year and one 4* and suddenly he's absolved for previously failing to recruit this position?

A big reason our defense has been shredded throughout the Golden era (and why we have huge concerns at the position for next year) is that we've failed to recruit difference makers at DT.

Don't let your agenda of slurping anything Golden get in the way of the harsh reality that failing to recruit (and develop) the position for that matter has been a big reason our defense has struggled.

Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever and Chicagnego says DT's don't want to play for Golden and has the gall to say others have an agenda.

Yeah makes total sense buddy.

Stopped reading after "Golden just signed the best DT class on paper ever." Golden could have signed a blow-up doll to play DT in last year's class and it would have been his best haul DT in his tenure at Miami.

Don't let your agenda of hating on Golden get in the way of understanding that most rational, normal people are waiting to give him a chance to prove himself.

Three full seasons and zero improvement on defense tells me all I need to know about Al Golden. I'd love to be wrong, but evidence he is in over his head is overwhelming.

Seriously, how many years do you want to give this guy? If we'd shown improvement along the way I'd be plenty more patient. But the idea that we're trending upward is a joke.

But there have been trends under Al:

You call people who want to give him a chance to prove himself rational. I look at the complete lack of improvement and call those same fans neutered.

Signing Moten and Wyche was a pretty good haul. I'm putting my money on Pierre and either Wyche or Heurtelou to be the starters. We still need drastic improvement at the position, but Moten and Wyche were a **** fine start.

You're right, except it wasn't a start. This was his fourth recruiting class (third if you discount 2011). To say signing a Michael Wyche or Anthony Moten is long overdue is the understatement of the century.

What's absolutely terrifying is that we need Michael Wyche to come in and make a big difference or we are ****ed. That's the position Golden has put this team in.

this should lock thread and shut up retards like KlanAlimghty and DerpU83

the astonishing thing as that those idiots are not able to see something so obvious that has loads of factual and relevant evidence. instead they pin their hopes and dreams to a mythical top 20 defense that F.A.G. had once upon a time in a non-BCS conference

 

[Bigtip]

why do retards like KlanAlmighty, DerpU83, and Niner think that F.A.G. is a good coach?

it is mind boggling. the guy is a proven fraud. a dumpster fire that will get worse this year

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Tip, they jus trollin.....cept they doin it on the other side we do

 

[Canes1135]

Guys, it's a process.....

 

[Bigtip]

Tip, they jus trollin.....cept they doin it on the other side we do

some of them sure but DerpU83 is actually just brain dead

 

[UMFarArcher]

why do retards like KlanAlmighty, DerpU83, and Niner think that F.A.G. is a good coach?

it is mind boggling. the guy is a proven fraud. a dumpster fire that will get worse this year

I think one of them is Golden. Another of them is D'Onofrio. Another is Shalala. Another is Golden's nephew. Another is our AD. They're making excuses for the horrible mistakes and weaknesses they're burdened with.

 

[Heals85]

IMO neither should be HC at the U but Randy burned bridges, was in a coma during games, and dug us in such a ditch recruiting/depth wise this 14' class finally gets us back to even. Randy's teams also had no fight, quit in tight games and were famous for playing 215lb MLB'ers and 225lb DE's.

Golden inherited **** and has built relationships/improved recruiting. However Golden has turned the once proud tradition of defense at the U into a joke. He also doesnt have the sack to fire his butt buddy and hire a real DC to run a 1gap, 4-3, man to man system JJ made famous and others copied. Golden is better but only because Randy left him with chicken **** to make chicken salad.