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How the "penalties" narrative is playing out in real time...

This is every fanbase at every game I've ever been to including ours. It's a little less intense if it's not a close game but everyone thinks the refs are working against them and yea those Louisville fans sound stupid but it's no dumber that what I've encountered at every stadium I've ever been to. Fans are stupid.
 

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Southern Oz said:
It’s not though. The ball was passed behind the LOS in the L’ville example. You can block down field early in NCAA. So this is actually ok.
I wasn’t happy with it first time I watched it, but there is a difference.

The Cam non fumble was mind blowing though. Those used to be ruled incomplete just on the principle that the ball was coming forward.
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Yea but the refs have been trained to let it play out when it's "close" so they don't ***** the defense and I get it. I think it's the right call. Historically we've been screwed plenty of times by missed fumble calls/inadvertent whistles. The idiot announcers on TV were going crazy though as if the fumble/TD wasn't going be reviewed and overturned and that helps forward the narrative it was a bad call.
 
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What about the blatant and obvious push in the back on the KR touchdown that was completely missed?
 

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The problem is this sec/big ten narrative has everybody including our own fans believing that only close games can be played in those conferences but if you’re in another conference and you’re a top dog you have to beat everyone by three scores. Louisville by the way…..their three losses are against 3 ranked teams each by 7 points so they are not some trash team but don’t tell the media that.
 
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Trav said:
This is every fanbase at every game I've ever been to including ours. It's a little less intense if it's not a close game but everyone thinks the refs are working against them and yea those Louisville fans sound stupid but it's no dumber that what I've encountered at every stadium I've ever been to. Fans are stupid.
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It goes beyond "we want every call to go our way".

The Louisville fans were openly accusing the ACC of fixing the game. On the third play of the game. That is not normal and is well past "stupid".
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Your dopey love letters to the CFP are not reality.

The CFP is made up of human beings who listen to the same propaganda on ESPN and elsewhere.

Chris Ault - former head coach and AD at Nevada (so he's a former coach who might have voted in the Coaches poll)
Chet Gladchuk - former AD at Houston and Navy
Jim Grobe - former head coach at Ohio, Wake Forest, and Baylor (another former coach who would have voted in the Coaches poll)
Warde Manuel - CURRENT AD at Michigan, former AD at UConn and SUNY-Buffalo
Randall McDaniel - former football player for Arizona State, no coaching or AD experience at the collegiate level
Gary Pinkel - former head coach at Missouri and Toledo (a third former coach who would have voted in the Coaches poll)
Mack Rhoades - CURRENT AD at Baylor and former AD at Mizzou, Houston, and Akron
Mike Riley - former head coach at Oregon State and Nebraska (a fourth former coach who would have voted in the Coaches poll)
David Sayler - CURRENT AD at Miami University and former AD at South Dakota
Will Shields - former football player for Nebraska, no coaching or AD experience at the collegiate level
Kelly Whiteside - former sportswriter for USA Today, current professor in Sports Media and Journalism at Montclair State
Carla Williams - CURRENT AD at UVa
Hunter Yurachek - CURRENT AD at Arkansas, former AD at Coastal Carolina and Houston

7 were on the committee last year. 5 have been on the committee three consecutive times. 1 person is on his 4th consecutive committee.

---Of the 13, 5 are current ADs, one from the SEC, one from the Big 10, one from the ACC, one from the Big 12, and one from a G4 conference.
---4 are former head coaches. I don't know if Ault ever voted in the coaches poll (Nevada), but I'm fairly certain that Grobe, Pinkel, and Riley did.
---The other 4 include two former players with NO collegiate coaching/AD experience, a former AD, and a former sportswriter.

Now, you can continue your charade of acting like these 13 people are of virginal character and do not ever watch or listen to ESPN or any other outlets. You can pretend that they are like a sequestered jury, who professed to have no prior knowlege of the case and are locked away in a hotel for their deliberations.

Except...that's bull****.

Each of these 13 people, before they ever take a vote, have been watching over 2 months of college football. Not from sound-free video tapes, but from ESPN and Fox and CBS and NBC broadcasts. They are just as susceptible to the false narratives as anyone else is.

And I guaran-*******-tee you, they will "discuss" the exact same narratives that have been spouted by all the sports journalists for months. JUST LIKE THEY DID LAST YEAR, when the miraculously came to the same conclusion about F$U that all of the sports journalists had yapped about for weeks, about how F$U was not the same team without Jordan Travis.

So **** off with this "the CFP is not Twitter" bull****. The CFP Committee is made up of people who watch sports on TV just like everyone else, and only five of them (the current ADs) are even active in college sports today. The other eight people USED TO BE active, but are not active any longer.

And the fewer voters you have, the more weight that each one carries.
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We're ranked 5th in the coaches poll despite all the FSU trolls relentlessly posting about Miami's poverty program so they can ease their suffering. This is all in your head imo.

The CFP selection committee watches Miami play every week, and they are aware that Miami's needed some good fortune to come away unscathed. If they watched those games and deduced that VT and Cal were robbed then that's unfortunate, but they are individuals who are seemingly capable of forming their own opinion. They're not FSU trolls who like to get a rise from insecure Miami fans on Twitter, which is who you're arguing with online if you haven't figured that out yet.
 
rok said:
We're ranked 5th in the coaches poll despite all the FSU trolls relentlessly posting about Miami's poverty program so they can ease their suffering. This is all in your head imo.

The CFP selection committee watches Miami play every week, and they are aware that Miami's needed some good fortune to come away unscathed. If they watched those games and deduced that VT and Cal were robbed then that's unfortunate, but they are individuals who are seemingly capable of forming their own opinion. They're not FSU trolls who like to get a rise from insecure Miami fans on Twitter, which is who you're arguing with online if you haven't figured that out yet.
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Good lord, you are stupid.

In one breath, you tell us how the CFP does its own work, and are completely independent of everything, then you tell us how we are 5th in the coaches poll.

Then you tell us how the CFP "watches Miami play every week" (which is logistically impossible, they cannot and do not watch every top program play each week) as if you actually know anything that they do. And they are certainly not watching "together" as a committee.

Then you tell us that they could "deduce" that VT and Cal were robbed, as if they would be the first people to arrive at that conclusion via logic and deductive powers.

At the end of this all, you are just making **** up to support your first dumb post in this thread. You're just making **** up like "insecure Miami fans on Twitter", which I've never mentioned once.

Dumb posts from a dumb porster. Go away, troll.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I do not know if there were any holding penalties that we DECLINED.

None during the Florida game.
None during the FAMU game.
None during the Balls State game.
ONE during the USF game.
ONE during the VaTech game. This was the one that wiped out the long TD run, and which VaTech fans falsely claimed was a phantom holding (it was not). VaTech scored a touchdown a few plays later on this drive.
None during the Cal game.
ONE during the Louisville game. This was on their final drive, and they scored a TD.

So think about this. Miami has one of the best defensive lines in the country, we have a fearsome pass rush, and yet we have ONLY been held three times all year? In SEVEN games?

Hilarious.




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They all must have the best OL coaches in America. DL in 17 was pretty dang good too, very few calls.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
It goes beyond "we want every call to go our way".

The Louisville fans were openly accusing the ACC of fixing the game. On the third play of the game. That is not normal and is well past "stupid".
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I guess that's going to be the narrative the rest of the way for every opposing teams fanbase. The refs cheated for Miami, lol. Louisville is acting as if Cam Ward scrambling for 3rd and 17, or Martinez running over their safety and dragging half their defense into the endzone in the fourth quarter never even happened. Our guys have consistently stepped up and made the necessary plays to win every game this season.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Good lord, you are stupid.

In one breath, you tell us how the CFP does its own work, and are completely independent of everything, then you tell us how we are 5th in the coaches poll.

Then you tell us how the CFP "watches Miami play every week" (which is logistically impossible, they cannot and do not watch every top program play each week) as if you actually know anything that they do. And they are certainly not watching "together" as a committee.

Then you tell us that they could "deduce" that VT and Cal were robbed, as if they would be the first people to arrive at that conclusion via logic and deductive powers.

At the end of this all, you are just making **** up to support your first dumb post in this thread. You're just making **** up like "insecure Miami fans on Twitter", which I've never mentioned once.

Dumb posts from a dumb porster. Go away, troll.
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Our games have been easy to watch, especially VT and Cal since they were the only games airing in those respective time slots. Any objective observer who watched the last 3 contests would agree that Miami's pretty lucky to have emerged from the last month unblemished, but the only ones claiming that there's a clear bias in Miami's favor are ****ed off fans of VT, Cal, UL, and trolls from rival fan bases.

Everyone thinks those calls were at least a little controversial, but Miami fans like you are ruining it for the rest of us by spending your time and energy debating whether those wins were valid. You're only exacerbating the issue by posting in ALL CAPS to prove your point that there IS NO MIAMI REFEREE BIAS and that THE CALLS WERE CORRECT.

You're making the rest of us appear weak and unhinged by allowing yourself to be affected by what other people say and think, and it's often done on purpose to make you get all bent out of shape.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Name the teams that have assembled 7 blowouts this season. I'll wait.
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Not sure how you interpreted that to mean we should’ve blown out everyone we played. I’m sure you understand that dominating games can help dispel the narrative that the referees help us win every game.
 
MovingZen said:
It seems like the rhetoric kinda let up this week? I mean it wasn't national news that we supposedly won a game off a missed penalty or bad call. I mean you're not wrong, but I think if we can win a few games soundly maybe it'll chill out to just the biggest haters. It wont be the popular media it has been.
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Both the ACC Huddle and College Football Final shows spent more time talking about the Louisville fumble/incomplete pass in our game than any other aspect of the game, or our team. They also talked about the narrative of Miami benefiting from the refs three weeks in a row. It’s complete garbage. ESPN is throwing gasoline on the fire.
 
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DTP said:
Nah. That was a bull**** call but Miami should never have been in position to lose because of a penalty. Our offense got exposed and without Willis Mcgahee to carry them, they couldn’t score against OSU.
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If we had stopped Ohio State on fourth and 18 a few plays earlier the game never comes down to fourth and go and Terry Porter.
 
Trav said:
Yea but the refs have been trained to let it play out when it's "close" so they don't ***** the defense and I get it. I think it's the right call. Historically we've been screwed plenty of times by missed fumble calls/inadvertent whistles. The idiot announcers on TV were going crazy though as if the fumble/TD wasn't going be reviewed and overturned and that helps forward the narrative it was a bad call.
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I agree around narrative. And unfortunately this sport is becoming more and more driven by narrative, despite the amount of fact that is out there.
Heisman, draft picks, best conferences, playoff spots, unfortunately the media has more power than they should and they are happy to wield it for the top dollar.

I’ll stop yelling at clouds now
 
caneingville said:
Both the ACC Huddle and College Football Final shows spent more time talking about the Louisville fumble/incomplete pass in our game than any other aspect of the game, or our team. They also talked about the narrative of Miami benefiting from the refs three weeks in a row. It’s complete garbage. ESPN is throwing gasoline on the fire.
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Oh wow, didn't know that. Of all the craziness in that game, it seemed like that call was the easiest to make. It wasn't even close imo.
 
RoboCane said:
Not sure how you interpreted that to mean we should’ve blown out everyone we played. I’m sure you understand that dominating games can help dispel the narrative that the referees help us win every game.
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Not sure how you can’t understand that nobody has dominated all their games, yet we are the only team accused of needing refs to win games.

Use reading comprehension and context clues to realize that we are talking about a double standard. We are the only top 10 team to get downgraded for close victories, and outs have been conference opponents, not G5 or Division II teams.
 
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