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How the "penalties" narrative is playing out in real time...

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Canefan73 said:
I'm not sure if it's still a thing or not, but if memory serves me didn't the Big12 make it a penalty for players to throw the Hook'em Horns down when Texas played there? Either ban it all or ignore it all (within the field of play that is).
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Really funny thing is - it only applied for Texas. I don't know about the symbols of other teams in that conference back then, but that it only applied to Texas was BS.
 
hurricaneman said:
People want us to lose, the games are close, and they've all had referee decisions at the end of the game. That's a recipe for what you're getting.

The problem for Miami is the narrative will eventually affect us if it continues. People are human and a 50/50 call will inevitably be influenced by outside noise.

The answer is Miami needs to stop playing close games against inferior teams to shut these people the f*** up. Nothing else will change it. And it we make it to the ACCCG and beat Clemson all the noise will disappear.
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The larger point is that this has mushroomed beyond "referee decision at the end of the game". These **** fans are now complaining about EVERYTHING, all game long.
 
The hate is real af and it feels good 😆
Tessitores dumb *** was yelling himself horse on every Lville play...wanted us to lose sooo bad...everyone does.
And rewatch the tape and you'll laugh at how often our DL was held over n over n over again..so as always the opponents fans are stupid af and aren't watching or don't know football
 
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I normally wouldn’t give a **** but the narrative is problematic for perception in a situation where Miami doesn’t win the ACC

And the issue is less of Twitter fans but legit national accounts and media using this narrative, including just about everyone on ESPN - the network that runs CFB in 2024.

It’s beyond just enjoying being hated which a lot of you all have reduced it to. Our traditional hatred was never because people perceived us to get ref calls in every game. It was other bull**** but you all act like all hate is the same.

We have an example of what negative perception does regarding playoffs but no way it could never happen to Miami….
 
McGahee2TheHouse said:
I normally wouldn’t give a **** but the narrative is problematic for perception in a situation where Miami doesn’t win the ACC

And the issue is less of Twitter fans but legit national accounts and media using this narrative, including just about everyone on ESPN - the network that runs CFB in 2024.

It’s beyond just enjoying being hated which a lot of you all have reduced it to. Our traditional hatred was never because people perceived us to get ref calls in every game. It was other bull**** but you all act like all hate is the same.

We have an example of what negative perception does regarding playoffs but no way it could never happen to Miami….
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This guy gets it.

How long until the CFP voters start downgrading us because of "ref calls"?

Spoiler alert - less than 2 weeks...
 
rok said:
The sooner Miami fans tune this stuff out, the faster this irritating narrative will fizzle out.
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Of course....the national narrative among sportswriters and broadcasters is solely based on Miami fans "tuning it out" or not...

I didn't realize this thread would turn into clown-bait, but it did.
 
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Louisville ain’t known for the smartz.

And I 100% agree. The fact that ESPN is even writing articles about this and devoting more time to this than to our games is a joke.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Of course....the national narrative among sportswriters and broadcasters is solely based on Miami fans "tuning it out" or not...

I didn't realize this thread would turn into clown-bait, but it did.
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We fans certainly can't do anything to dispel the narrative, and the team continues to put itself in the position where calls/no-calls are having a huge impact. Arguing with people in the stands and on Myspace doesn't help our cause, it makes us look insecure.

Tune it out and you'll extract more enjoyment from the season. Have seen so many posts harping on what Joel Klatt or Andre Ware said about this or that. Who cares? The national narrative headed into the CFP selection show was that FSU deserved to be in at 13-0, but that didn't matter one iota to the committee.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
The "blame the refs" and "penalties are skewed" narratives have gotten completely out of hand. I was at Louisville and surrounded by Louisville fans. I have no idea whether Louisville fans are THIS ****Y for every single game, but it was bad where I was sitting, and I tend to believe that the reaction of the Louisville ***** around me matched what the rest of the Louisville ***** were thinking/saying, based on the booing I heard in-person and rewatching the game on TV.

I'm actually exhausted by the fake and manufactured "critical call" whining. That's bull****. In-person and on TV, you could hear the Louisville ***** complaining on EVERY CLOSE PLAY, all game long. First Louisville drive, we forced the QB out-of-bounds and the Louisville ***** around me lost their ****, screaming for a penalty to be called. And this repeated itself on EVERY Miami sideline tackle, EVERY Miami defensed-pass, and EVERY Miami offensive play that resulted in yardage. I actually started laughing whenever the Louisville ***** around me complained.

And here's the thing. Nearly every single complaint from the Louisville ***** HAD NO BEARING ON THE DRIVE OR THE OUTCOME. For example, when Mauigoa was covering the receiver who almost caught a touchdown, the Louisville ***** SCREAMED that "he never turned his head". I then explained that it only makes a difference if Mauigoa had raised his hands up and attempted to faceguard the receiver without turning his head to see the ball, and that you are free to cover a receiver with your back to the QB (sure, you might get burned if the receiver catches the ball) but it's not a penalty. Then, after the Louisville ***** *****ed and moaned about that no-call, they scored a TD two plays later.

Right now, the reality is that EVERY SINGLE OPPONENT (and/or their fanbase) will scream about EVERY penalty called against them, as well as scream about EVERY penalty "not called" against us, until such time that they can get to the fourth quarter and point out ONE call, at which point they can bravely claim that they've been complaining about the officiating "all game long".

Meanwhile, they will keep their ****y mouths shut when it goes the other way to favor them. During their kickoff return for a touchdown, I watched an obvious block-in-the-back take place right in front of me. The reason it was so obvious is because the Miami player blocked in the back was the FIRST guy to get near the returner. The Miami player went flying to the ground after the push, but there was no flag. And it's particularly egregious, as kickoff returns are (statistically) the single type of play on which the most penalties are called. Then I tried to watch a replay on TV and all they showed was the drone shot from the kicker's perspective. It was a ******* touchdown, and they can only show one replay?

But it was "crickets" from the Louisville ***** around me on the subject of any penalty there.

And the later Cam Ward pass incompletion (mistakenly called a fumble) was beyond obvious. Look at how far FORWARD the ball traveled. With a defender going the opposite way and hitting his arm, the ball should have popped up or gone backwards if it was a fumble. Cam has a strong arm, the lock-and-load is quick, and the ball shot forward. Case closed. None of the Louisville ***** would acknowledge that there is a difference between "the ref saw it and called it like he saw it" and "letting the play continue, because blowing the whistle 'too soon' is non-reviewable, while any other call IS reviewable". The fact remains, the ball shot FORWARD, consistent with an arm going forward, not an arm that has been hit and lost control of the ball.

Finally, let's review just how "awful" the refs were, both to the Louisville ***** and to Miami for an entire season, keeping in mind that "let the boys play a physical game" is a general approach that does not favor one team over another.

First, the penalty numbers for Miami vs. Louisville.

Miami - 5 penalties for 55 yards
Louisville - 6 penalties for 38 yards

Once again, Miami was the more-severely-penalized team. And, NO, I am not going to give credence to all the "but look at all the calls they missed" when the Louisville ***** were screaming for a Miami penalty on nearly every play.

Second, through 7 games, we are STILL the second-most-penalized team in the ACC. And when you look at the comparatives with who we've played (and even who we are about to play) the ONLY possible complaint from another heavily-penalized team is Cal. And they are mostly whining about a targeting no-call that the refs on the field didn't call, and that the replay booth did NOT overturn. Though we will probably hear some whining this week from F$U fans, but I think all of their penalties are largely due to incompetence.


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You Win Season 2 GIF by The Boys

I read this in Billy Butcher’s voice for some reason.

I hate that fan base. Every time we beat them they get super butt hurt and cry. They take shots at Miami and say it’s a **** hole etc. They did it again this time. Funny how they get recruits from the “**** hole” to go to Louisville. Even funnier that this was a game where they honored Bridgewater. And honestly, I don’t like the Schnellenberger trophy. Should leave it with them. I don’t want any connection to those boogereaters.
 
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If the ACC is actually giving Miami the calls, I would take it all day long no matter what people say.

But I think we all know better. I don’t care what people say. If it wasn’t the officials it would be something else.
 
the age of x and the conspiracy addiction.

Rigged NFL and scripted Mahones bias on every other NFL social channel.

I know I’d rather be the Brady Patriots or Mahones Chiefs than the losers complaining about refs and conspiracy’s. And def rather be us than FSU, UF and all the losers we beat this year.

If we get to the point we want to be, our games won’t be decided by a play every game anymore.
 
NE Canes said:
If the ACC is actually giving Miami the calls, I would take it all day long no matter what people say.

But I think we all know better. I don’t care what people say. If it wasn’t the officials it would be something else.
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Of course, it would be that we're a one-man team (we are) and how our schedule blah blah blah
 
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NE Canes said:
If the ACC is actually giving Miami the calls, I would take it all day long no matter what people say.

But I think we all know better. I don’t care what people say. If it wasn’t the officials it would be something else.
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I think you’re right about that last point. I’ve been a Canes fan since Schnelly, and I can’t remember a time we’ve been on top and there wasn’t some bs narrative for why we were winning. They can’t say we’re cheating by paying players now since NIL exists, so now they have to say we’re cheating through the refs. It will always be something.
 
johnnytsunami01 said:
On our the touchdown to George, the defender held Restrepo at the top of his route, but nothing.

There are so many missed calls if you look for them, our DL was held almost every play, look at the Bain sack where even the announcers had to call it out since it was so obvious. It is what it is.
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The holding toward the end of the game on Louisville when they were obviously worn down was egregious. It took a pure tackle to the ground to get a flag.
 
My favorite conspiracy is “the ACC needs Miami to be undefeated to get a top playoff seed”. Like the ACC champ doesn’t get an automatic top four seed and first round bye regardless of what their record is.

Like most conspiracy theories, when you ask “why” said conspiracy is taking place, it completely falls apart.
 
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