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MEGA Frenk Out - Who Next?

MPCane17 said:
Wonder how quickly things start happening now because that was the first thing I thought when you started factoring the timing of him being done immediately yet not starting at UCLA until next year, and then the immediate title to Joe…. Perhaps we actually sue the ACC ourselves now?
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Two words.

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FL Cane said:
A few things on Frenk and this situation:
  1. This isn't really all that surprising. The destination is the surprise, but him leaving UM isn't. Nobody and I mean NOBODY inside the school thought his contract would be extended.

  2. The BOT soured on Frenk a long time ago. If it wasn't for Covid, he would've been gone awhile back. I've said it before on this board, but I know for a fact that a very prominent member of the BOT remarked that Frenk's hire was a big mistake, in retrospect. This was from a shaker and mover on the board, who's words weren't just representative of his own opinion.

  3. Frenk's presidency was considered, by and large, a failure. Yes, UHealth started making big money (not really due to him though) and our med program is stellar, but the rest of the school languished. The law school is an unmitigated disaster. Non-STEM programs have gone the wayside. When Frenk assumed the presidency we were considered the best or close to second best academic program in the state. Now we're at third running miles behind UF and close behind FSU.

  4. Frenk had minimal influence on sports. One good thing about him is that he knows what he doesn't know. He knew he was completely out of his depth when it came to college athletics. In this area, he's deferred heavily to Rudy Fernandez and a handful of other BOTs.

  5. I've heard way more through the grapevine about Rudy than I have of Joe Echevarria. That doesn't mean I haven't heard stuff though. The impression from people I've spoken with, that have worked close with Echevarria, is that he's a proven leader and is extremely competent. I've heard bad things about Rudy (albeit not all bad), but I've heard nothing bad about Echevarria (albeit I've heard less about him). This is a guy that spent almost four decades at Deloitte, was CEO for four years, and serves on a bunch of boards (New York Mellon and Pfizer). Reading through his biography, he also has major political connections, far more then Frenk ever had.

  6. Don't be surprised if UM ends up removing the "interim" title from Echevarria. I was told awhile back by someone who would know that UM has been intentionally moving from the traditional academic model of leadership to a more corporate model. This is a guy that fits that bill perfectly. Not to mention he's served in various other high profile positions in the University, and is well liked with the people that make the decision. I think the school will conduct a formal search, but if he wants it he'd be a major candidate for the role.
Football wise, I don't know the immediate effects of this move. It could help us in being more aggressive, in that Frenk was way more passive and non confrontational then the guy now steering the ship (for the time being at least). Echevarria, after all, was an important advocate in investing in the FB program. Nevertheless, we'll have to wait and see.
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I don’t know anything from an insider perspective. But what I do know is that we are now a complex, integrated health system with a university attached. So, your point 6 tracks with that. We need someone who knows how to take the system regional and be strategic in its acquisitions and joint ventures. To your point 5, that also involves heavy political connections in the current climate. All of this is to say it would make sense to make the former CEO of UHealth the president of the whole organization.
 
hoops156 said:
you already some dudes hate on Joe E. bc of his political ties lol.
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I see you found my joke offensive. I've made the same joke about Rudy and his resume/"affiliations"

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rsa coral gables said:
partially her fault and partially the City's
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Partially Samson’s/Luria’s fault and partially the City’s. Donna had nothing to do with that. We had a VOTER-APPROVED REFERENDUM that allowed for the OB to be renovated.

And I’m not saying this to you, because I know you would give Donna full credit for this, but she’s the one who got us out of the Big Least and the unequal revenue splits. Lots of posters are CONVEEEENIENTLY forgetting about THAT ONE.
 
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Rellyrell said:
UCLA has the highest number of applicants and it’s not even close w/ a low acceptance rate. They are internationally renowned, friend, & have one of the best law schools in the nation (although UVA, Cal, & UofM have surged passed them there).

I understand it’s hard to fathom for ya’ll East Coasters to get how a school out West can be so academically inclined since we’re in such a liberal state, but get over it. UCLA’s education is top notch w/ kids from all over the world clamoring to get in. My little cousin was rejected from UCLA & had to “settle” for Michigan. She was rejected from UCLA again, & had to “settle” for USC.
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This is what people don’t understand. The best public law school in the largest state in the country will have a MASSIVE applicant pool. And “surprisingly” good selectivity metrics.
 
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RightSaidFred said:
It happened on her watch. It's her fault. And she did nothing to get us a replacement stadium.

We needed leadership, we got Al Golden from her.
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The fact that our fanbase continues to blame Dr. Shalala for the OB, ignoring the fact that the City ignored a voter referendum, engaged in widespread corruption to ace the University out of the OB, opening up the parcel for the Marlins is mind boggling. Once again, in case you didn't know: Dr. Shalala had NOTHING to do with the OB situation. The voters in Miami approved a bond to renovate the OB, the City dragged its feet and when the Marlins picked up steam for their building, gave Miami a lowball estimate on the renovations, knowing full well no rational adult would take that offer, opening the path for the Marlins.
 
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cway313 said:
Why are they broke?
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They’re not; the AD is. UCLA keeps everything separate as its own entities. ****, b/c Pauley Pavillion is on campus, the AD actually rents it. Lol.

What happened were two things:

1. Under Armour
2. Covid

Under Armour completely screwed the AD by reneging on that sizable contract. Covid also screwed UCLA b/c of their partnership w/ the Rosebowl. There were no events there for a couple of yrs, and to make matters worst, when things did re-open, the CFB team sucked so they lost more revenue on ticket sales.

That’s why it was imperative for them to sign w/ JB which even though the up front $$ was significantly less, the clauses including % of all merchandise sales (which was huge) paid big dividends to soften the blow, & getting into the B1G was the other big financial stabilizer. Hence, they moved in silence w/ SC b/c as I told everyone, Cal was going to bytch about it b/c that shared revenue would be gone.

Cal also got screwed over royally by UA, btw.
 
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cway313 said:
That hasn't stopped schools like A&M and Nebraska. They've done well in other sports and they certainly have a wealthy alumni.
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You jumped from “why are they broke” to “but aTm and Nebraska have a couple of good programs”.

UCLA is broke in athletics because they suck, nobody wants to see them, nobody wants to buy a ticket, and only the undergrads buy the merch.

That is a bit different from college towns that don’t offer the same sports & entertainment options that Los Angeles does.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Good riddance is right….possibly the most boring low energy person I have ever met…walking sedative. Tremendo muerto.
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The charisma and energy of a doorknob. I remember the first time I heard him give a speech. You would have found more energy in a cemetery than in that room that night.
 
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hoops156 said:
she cared more about sports than Frenk ever did. you dont want your president making hiring decisions, which is the issue with DS. she tried to hire barry alvarez here when she got here but obviously players wanted Larry Coker.
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Miami would have been better off with Alvarez long term. Keep in mind, Barry had a long, successful run as Wisconsin's AD. Imagine had he came to Miami, transitioned to the AD role and held it together. Worst case scenario, Miami would have been a competent athletic department, instead of the revolving door of mediocre it has been under the collection of stiffs Miami has employed at the AD spot.
 
Rellyrell said:
They’re not; the AD is. UCLA keeps everything separate as its own entities. ****, b/c Pauley Pavillion is on campus, the AD actually rents it. Lol.

What happened were two things:

1. Under Armour
2. Covid

Under Armour completely screwed the AD by reneging on that sizable contract. Covid also screwed UCLA b/c of their partnership w/ the Rosebowl. There were no events there for a couple of yrs, and to make matters worst, when things did re-open, the CFB team sucked so they lost more revenue on ticket sales.

That’s why it was imperative for them to sign w/ JB which even though the up front $$ was significantly less, the clauses including % of all merchandise sales (which was huge) paid big dividends to soften the blow, & getting into the B1G was the other big financial stabilizer. Hence, they moved in silence w/ SC b/c as I told everyone, Cal was going to bytch about it b/c that shared revenue would be gone.

Cal also got screwed over royally by UA, btw.
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Cal stadium is costing them a fortune. The apparel sponsor is pennies compared to that.. But yeah, conflating UCLA academically with their AD finances makes no sense.
 
Rellyrell said:
I know he was successful at his previous company, but I know nothing of his p-word. Lol. I just want Miami to get the best, & most qualified candidate & don’t just settle for a guy who’s in house if he’s not truly the best.
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This is the way rational people see it. I don't care if he's the biggest ******* with extreme p-word views as long as he can lift the university, I'm all for it.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You jumped from “why are they broke” to “but aTm and Nebraska have a couple of good programs”.

UCLA is broke in athletics because they suck, nobody wants to see them, nobody wants to buy a ticket, and only the undergrads buy the merch.

That is a bit different from college towns that don’t offer the same sports & entertainment options that Los Angeles does.
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Rellyrell said:
They’re not; the AD is. UCLA keeps everything separate as its own entities. ****, b/c Pauley Pavillion is on campus, the AD actually rents it. Lol.

What happened were two things:

1. Under Armour
2. Covid

Under Armour completely screwed the AD by reneging on that sizable contract. Covid also screwed UCLA b/c of their partnership w/ the Rosebowl. There were no events there for a couple of yrs, and to make matters worst, when things did re-open, the CFB team sucked so they lost more revenue on ticket sales.

That’s why it was imperative for them to sign w/ JB which even though the up front $$ was significantly less, the clauses including % of all merchandise sales (which was huge) paid big dividends to soften the blow, & getting into the B1G was the other big financial stabilizer. Hence, they moved in silence w/ SC b/c as I told everyone, Cal was going to bytch about it b/c that shared revenue would be gone.

Cal also got screwed over royally by UA, btw.
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I should have specified athletic department but I figured that part was common knowledge.
 
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