For those who want to rush this thing

[WhatTheHell]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[sebastian91]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Send your fire AG email to Donna, quit your Hurricane Club membership, quit going to the games, fly a Fire AG banner...

 

[bbcane]

Exactly bicho. What is our record over the last 10yrs. ? Barely .500. And we think with 2 recruiting classes things can turn around. For the past 8-10 yrs this has been a 5 loss team. Now can the defense change for better? I am sure. But put out defense players in a bama uni, I wonder what happens? Probably not some huge change, IMO.

 

[NateDogg]

It's not about rushing. Everybody knows it takes time.

The problem is we have more than enough talent for gt,wake,unc, and vt.

This is 3rd year in this scheme and still can't stop anybody. Below average offenses look like the broncos everytime they play this D.

Offense play calling is questionable. You got a injured Qb, best player in duke hurt, the o-line every time they face a decent d-line they struggle except for a few plays vs fsu.

Defensive performances are no doubt troubling.

When Chad and Moten and company we are bringing in are physically ready to play and the defense still looks like this then you know there is a problem. Who in the front seven that currently plays will even sniff the NFL? #52 and maybe Chickillo as a late round energy type player.
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This should be McCords redshirt freshmen year where he gets spot duty and AQM should be redshirting.

 

[poncho0091]

Randy was left with less than Golden was.

our players never seemed to have a problem adjusting.

The recruiting classes before Randy became HC were good, ...Add to that players were continually leaving early for the draft.

So why are the defenders giving a pass to the staff for 5 years when Randy, the HC, got 3 before the seat got hot?

Randy was left with less than Golden was, but Randy had guys who were good enough to leave early and be 1st round picks, and the recruiting classes were good before Randy? You are contradicting yourself, and there's no way that Randy had less than Golden.

The players under Randy had no problem adjusting? Did you watch those teams?

Randy was on the hot seat because he had no QBs other than Morris, no CBs other than McGee, no DL, no LBs...he put all of his eggs in the 2008 class basket, and they ***** the bed. That class landed in his lap, and he got complacent with recruiting depth, ****ed off all of the local coaches, couldn't manage the clock, couldn't keep his staff together...

Thanks for trying to take things our of context.

1. I never said Randy had a bunch of 1st round talent. I said those recruiting classes before Randy produced first round talent that left early which created depth issues. The biggest problem our defense had when Randy took over was depth which is why I said Randy was left with nothing. There was some talent, but the backups were nothing and our starters would get gassed quick because we would go 3 and out so much starting Freeman and Wright while Patrick Nix was our OC. Golden was left with some solid guys, many from that 08 class. Spence was solid, Washington was considered a projected 1st rounder until Golden moved him (square peg round hole), Streeter on limited experience turned out decent on the college level, Miller was a beast for us, James was a good RB, Vernon was good (suspension killed him), Hurns (not a standout yet), Henderson, Buchanon, and Ray Ray (another ******, but he had talent).

2. Our total defense under Randy was in the top 40 every year he coached so yea considering they had to learn a new defense nearly every year, they managed pretty well. Have you watched our team the last 2 years? Nothing has changed in our defense and they might actually be getting worse.

3. I can agree that all of those points should be why he was on the hot seat, but ultimately what got him on the hot seat was our offense regressed after 2010 and we weren't winning. Right now Golden's defense looks nearly the same as last year and we started 7-0, but what happens if we finish 7-5 or even 8-4? Before the season started, most of us had these last 3 games pegged as wins, now people are afraid we might actually lose them.

 

[NateDogg]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

player improvement, anyone? ...bueller?

 

[The Franchise]

these clowns to try to force feed us the fallacy that our front 7 couldn't start on any MAC teams makes them look brainwashed and stupid.

I'll say this: I don't think Miami would have won the MAC more than once or twice over the past 6-7 years.

I don't care about the last 7 years. I'm talking about the here and now. This is year 3, and if we couldn't win the MAC or have any players from our front 7 start on any MAC teams then that's a stunning indictment of Corch Al. This is a results business.

 

[Miami82]

Point of this thread being the team is 7-2 and ranked. Under the circumstances that's pretty impressive.

This is what 7-2 looks like. if the defense was better the team would be 8-1 with a loss to FSU because they have elite talent and depth all over.

all the other teams with 2 losses and ranked around where miami is have warts too. Either terrible defense or offense or a mix of both.

Talent of defense sucks, there's a variety of reasons for that but its the current reality.

LMAO, of our 7 wins which one is truly a quality win? The divide between us and our rival upstate has grown with Golden at the helm the last 3 years.

 

[L A M P]

Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards.

Renfrow is good enough to start for us immediately while never seeing the field in 3 years at UVa. AJ Highsmith has played the most snaps of any safety. Jimmy Gaines runs a 6.88 40. These aren't excuses.. It is reality. In saying that, I'm all for letting Coach D move on because at this point, he is damaged goods.

 

[Miami82]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Nailed it. Coker/Shannon all over again.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Send your fire AG email to Donna, quit your Hurricane Club membership, quit going to the games, fly a Fire AG banner...

You guys have a misconception that an unwavering support of an under-performing coaching staff is what makes you a fan. It's not.

 

[L A M P]

The divide between us and our rival upstate has grown with Golden at the helm the last 3 years.

So it's Golden's fault FSU is having their best season in 15 years... DARN YOU AL!

 

[Miami82]

The divide between us and our rival upstate has grown with Golden at the helm the last 3 years.

So it's Golden's fault FSU is having their best season in 15 years... DARN YOU AL!

You obviously failed reading comprehension.

 

[sebastian91]

Randy was left with less than Golden was.

our players never seemed to have a problem adjusting.

The recruiting classes before Randy became HC were good, ...Add to that players were continually leaving early for the draft.

So why are the defenders giving a pass to the staff for 5 years when Randy, the HC, got 3 before the seat got hot?

Randy was left with less than Golden was, but Randy had guys who were good enough to leave early and be 1st round picks, and the recruiting classes were good before Randy? You are contradicting yourself, and there's no way that Randy had less than Golden.

The players under Randy had no problem adjusting? Did you watch those teams?

Randy was on the hot seat because he had no QBs other than Morris, no CBs other than McGee, no DL, no LBs...he put all of his eggs in the 2008 class basket, and they ***** the bed. That class landed in his lap, and he got complacent with recruiting depth, ****ed off all of the local coaches, couldn't manage the clock, couldn't keep his staff together...

Thanks for trying to take things our of context.

1. I never said Randy had a bunch of 1st round talent. I said those recruiting classes before Randy produced first round talent that left early which created depth issues. The biggest problem our defense had when Randy took over was depth which is why I said Randy was left with nothing. There was some talent, but the backups were nothing and our starters would get gassed quick because we would go 3 and out so much starting Freeman and Wright while Patrick Nix was our OC. Golden was left with some solid guys, many from that 08 class. Spence was solid, Washington was considered a projected 1st rounder until Golden moved him (square peg round hole), Streeter on limited experience turned out decent on the college level, Miller was a beast for us, James was a good RB, Vernon was good (suspension killed him), Hurns (not a standout yet), Henderson, Buchanon, and Ray Ray (another ******, but he had talent).

2. Our total defense under Randy was in the top 40 every year he coached so yea considering they had to learn a new defense nearly every year, they managed pretty well. Have you watched our team the last 2 years? Nothing has changed in our defense and they might actually be getting worse.

3. I can agree that all of those points should be why he was on the hot seat, but ultimately what got him on the hot seat was our offense regressed after 2010 and we weren't winning. Right now Golden's defense looks nearly the same as last year and we started 7-0, but what happens if we finish 7-5 or even 8-4? Before the season started, most of us had these last 3 games pegged as wins, now people are afraid we might actually lose them.

1. What did Randy leave Golden behind those (very) few talented guys, many of whom were gone after the first year? Golden had to go get a Wake reject just so he could have a CB to play. This year, he had to get a gimpy, retired Wisconsin castoff and a JAG from UVa just to be able to even have a DL rotation. Ray Ray was awful, Buchanon a JAG, Henderson a mental case, no LB depth. Washington was moved out of necessity, wasn't a hard worker, and a mental case.

2. For those better defense stats under Randy, he sure didn't win very many games. Something has changed in our defense the last 2 years. There is actually talent in the underclassmen, there are actually some competitions for PT, there are actually some opportunities to start redshirting kids who aren't physically or mentally ready...most importantly, the lack of talent in the upperclassmen will be replaced on the roster by an outstanding (at least on paper) recruiting class.

3. Why would anyone peg these last 3 games as wins? We aren't any better than those teams. That kind of expectation certainly couldn't be based on last year's team, or the prospects of the soon-to-be-senior and junior classes suddenly becoming talented. That kind of expectation is based on one thing...we are Miami, and we won 6 MNC's a long time ago. Bama, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Michigan, Notre Lame...all of those historical powers have gone through extended periods of mediocrity in recent years, where they were no better than the middle of the road conference teams they were losing to or beating on occasion. That's where we are now. We are a middle of the road team playing in a BCS AQ conference. We are going to win some games we shouldn't win, and lose some games we shouldn't lose. It sucks. Butch lost 3 or more games his first 5 seasons...in the Big East! He didn't turn things around in 3 seasons (he was 5-6 his 3rd season), and we can't expect anything different now.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

The divide between us and our rival upstate has grown with Golden at the helm the last 3 years.

So it's Golden's fault FSU is having their best season in 15 years... DARN YOU AL!

Yeah....it's Al's fault that Dumbo and FSU have recruited circles around us the previous 5 years and now those recruits are mature and balling out on the field. How dare the gap get larger. It just doesn't make sense.

 

[sebastian91]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Send your fire AG email to Donna, quit your Hurricane Club membership, quit going to the games, fly a Fire AG banner...

You guys have a misconception that an unwavering support of an under-performing coaching staff is what makes you a fan. It's not.

Yeah...what makes a 'fan'? Fanatic = a person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause. (or a sports team). So, I won't see you in that morgue of a stadium for the UVa game with all of the other 'fans'?

 

[Canes_]

With all the young guys that will be needed to contribute on defense, is next year another rebuilding season?

 

[hoops156]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Send your fire AG email to Donna, quit your Hurricane Club membership, quit going to the games, fly a Fire AG banner...

You guys have a misconception that an unwavering support of an under-performing coaching staff is what makes you a fan. It's not.

Yeah...what makes a 'fan'? Fanatic = a person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause. (or a sports team). So, I won't see you in that morgue of a stadium for the UVa game with all of the other 'fans'?

ok u can support a team and be realistic. there are no rules on fandom. u can criticize coaches and still be a fan. frankly, whoever stayed on this 7-6 bandwagon for the last 10 years is a diehard fan.

 

[NVA CANE]

Our last 4 recruiting classes averaged 19th best in the country. Yet people are claiming only one of our players would start on a MAC defense, and other crazy ramblings.

Some of you are swooning so hard over Golden's slick talk that you're delirious. It's terrifying.

People are pacing around in all white robes holding candles in the Golden cult - won't listen to reasoning. Their families and friends are crying for them to come home, but they just look up with a blank stare and mutter - "this is my home now." "The savoir will lead us to enlightenment in 5 years; it's a process."

Wake up. You guys are losing it. Making excuses as to why we're giving up half a thousand yards to any team that can stand upright without puking on itself. **** is embarrassing.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Send your fire AG email to Donna, quit your Hurricane Club membership, quit going to the games, fly a Fire AG banner...

You guys have a misconception that an unwavering support of an under-performing coaching staff is what makes you a fan. It's not.

Yeah...what makes a 'fan'? Fanatic = a person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause. (or a sports team). So, I won't see you in that morgue of a stadium for the UVa game with all of the other 'fans'?

Difference between being a fan and too ****** stupid at what is staring you in the face yet you refuse to accept it.

 

[Canes_]

Randy was left with less than Golden was.

our players never seemed to have a problem adjusting.

The recruiting classes before Randy became HC were good, ...Add to that players were continually leaving early for the draft.

So why are the defenders giving a pass to the staff for 5 years when Randy, the HC, got 3 before the seat got hot?

Randy was left with less than Golden was, but Randy had guys who were good enough to leave early and be 1st round picks, and the recruiting classes were good before Randy? You are contradicting yourself, and there's no way that Randy had less than Golden.

The players under Randy had no problem adjusting? Did you watch those teams?

Randy was on the hot seat because he had no QBs other than Morris, no CBs other than McGee, no DL, no LBs...he put all of his eggs in the 2008 class basket, and they ***** the bed. That class landed in his lap, and he got complacent with recruiting depth, ****ed off all of the local coaches, couldn't manage the clock, couldn't keep his staff together...

Thanks for trying to take things our of context.

1. I never said Randy had a bunch of 1st round talent. I said those recruiting classes before Randy produced first round talent that left early which created depth issues. The biggest problem our defense had when Randy took over was depth which is why I said Randy was left with nothing. There was some talent, but the backups were nothing and our starters would get gassed quick because we would go 3 and out so much starting Freeman and Wright while Patrick Nix was our OC. Golden was left with some solid guys, many from that 08 class. Spence was solid, Washington was considered a projected 1st rounder until Golden moved him (square peg round hole), Streeter on limited experience turned out decent on the college level, Miller was a beast for us, James was a good RB, Vernon was good (suspension killed him), Hurns (not a standout yet), Henderson, Buchanon, and Ray Ray (another ******, but he had talent).

2. Our total defense under Randy was in the top 40 every year he coached so yea considering they had to learn a new defense nearly every year, they managed pretty well. Have you watched our team the last 2 years? Nothing has changed in our defense and they might actually be getting worse.

3. I can agree that all of those points should be why he was on the hot seat, but ultimately what got him on the hot seat was our offense regressed after 2010 and we weren't winning. Right now Golden's defense looks nearly the same as last year and we started 7-0, but what happens if we finish 7-5 or even 8-4? Before the season started, most of us had these last 3 games pegged as wins, now people are afraid we might actually lose them.

1. What did Randy leave Golden behind those (very) few talented guys, many of whom were gone after the first year? Golden had to go get a Wake reject just so he could have a CB to play. This year, he had to get a gimpy, retired Wisconsin castoff and a JAG from UVa just to be able to even have a DL rotation. Ray Ray was awful, Buchanon a JAG, Henderson a mental case, no LB depth. Washington was moved out of necessity, wasn't a hard worker, and a mental case.

It wasn't Shannon who recruited and brought in Ricardo Williams, Jalen Grimble, Daruis Smith, Corey King, Earl Moore, Dwayne Hoilett, Jacoby Briscoe, and Daquan Ivery. All Golden guys who have done nothing here. Golden brought in a castoff and a JAG this year because of poor recruiting.

Also, we all knew how much we needed help inside and we only brought in 2 DL recruits in 2013 and not a single tackle.