Everyone seems to know this except our DC

[hcanes100]

 

[miamifan007]

Well if they don't pick it up this season then everyone will be out.

 

[miamifan007]

Bingo.

 

[52CANES]

Eh, pat yourselves on the back all you want, but coaches are like doctors, you have a line a mile long on either side of a debate on what is best course of action.

 

[DeadPoets]

He also said this, in the very same article.

“To be successful on defense, you need to develop a philosophy,” Carroll said at a coaching clinic while still at USC. “If you don’t have a clear view of your philosophy, you will be floundering all over the place. If you win, it will be pure luck.”

Our coaches not only have their philosophy, but a clear view of it as well. Now that philosophy doesn't lend itself all that well to instant results (eventhough they did alright with the most talented/experienced D we've had since their arrival), but going by the information we have (their track record at temple).. it not only works, but it provides good results long term.. and that's not even counting that they have access to much better talent here.

Which is why a change in DC won't do anything to our current situation. Our head man only knows this 3-4 2 gap ish

 

[Jmhcane]

Eh, pat yourselves on the back all you want, but coaches are like doctors, you have a line a mile long on either side of a debate on what is best course of action.

??????

 

[Miami82]

Although Carroll used bits of that system with New England, he never got it fully up and running, and it was simply too much for college players, even the very talented ones at USC. “I was the defensive coordinator and putting the whole thing together [at USC], but our guys just couldn’t handle it,” said Carroll. “It was just too much stuff, and it was too much for the coaches.”



OMG

is this real life???? an NFL coach on the verge of going to the super bowl LITERALLY ECHOES WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING...yet golden says we are trending in the right direction

But its not the scheme, just ask K9_scheme_cane.... LMMFAO.

 

[Jmhcane]

While at USC, Carroll described his ideal free safety as “a natural player” that “you don’t have to coach” much.

Do we have that player in Bush or someone else?

 

[niuvalleycane]

Bingo.

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[Coach Macho]

Hate to toot my own horn... (not really)

But I been telling yall for years that this **** wouldn't work at Miami. I'm just a slapdick high school guy and my name isn't Pete Carroll so nobody listened. I had to call Pete and tell him to give us some quoteables.

Now you know.



By the way, anybody seen PickDix lately? ***** been missin'.

 

[Torocane]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

 

[DaU83]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to revamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

Doubt this ADD crowd got that far down the article.

And the article was also about PC's success comes from him failing.

 

[Miami82]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to revamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

 

[Torocane]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to revamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

I'm not backing Dnofrio at all. I'm all for him being replaced.
Just pointing out that the article is about PC using both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
NOT the virtue of 1 gap over 2 gap as it's being made out to be.

 

[Miami82]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to revamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

I'm not backing Dnofrio at all. I'm all for him being replaced.
Just pointing out that the article is about PC using both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
NOT the virtue of 1 gap over 2 gap as it's being made out to be.

My bad, my post was to 83 and revamping the roster.

 

[sstcane]

For people on here that know the X's and O's of defence - watch our games from 2011.

We were a 4-3 under with some over fronts. We were a combo 1 gap/2 gap team.

If all they know is 3-4 2 gap then what happened that year? Also watch the Seahawks
This year. They run the under front but out of the 3-4 a lot of the time.

I agree that this year there needs to be a dramatic improvement in our numbers across
the board. I am holding out hope that this year will be different than the last 2. Our
Secondary is all upperclassmen. Those Juco DT's along with the new recruits will make
our D-Line better than last year in my opinion.

This is definitely DNO's last chance to have the D show up.

 

[DaU83]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to renotevamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

Their first real class well be juniors this year. There's also no scheme to adapt to the skills of highsmith etc... a legit time frame is however long it takes as long as the win/loss is at a reasonable level.. if we're winning 10 plus games a year and the defense is ranked 30th I'm not going to ***** about it.

 

[Miami82]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to renotevamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

Their first real class well be juniors this year. There's also no scheme to adapt to the skills of highsmith etc... a legit time frame is however long it takes as long as the win/loss is at a reasonable level.. if we're winning 10 plus games a year and the defense is ranked 30th I'm not going to ***** about it.

That's the difference between fans that approve and disapprove what Golden has done. Win/Loss is one data point. Once you dig deeper into the details you see what is really going on. Had we lost those games in a competitive manner this board wouldn't be so split. Getting handled like we did and the trend, well you know.

 

[DaU83]

Yet the article is about how PC uses both 1 gap and 2 gap at the same time.
Not sure people got that.

not only that, but they had to renotevamp the roster, which doesn't necessarily take 3-4 years in the NFL.

OK, for those of you that are still backing Golden/Dorito, what is a legit timeframe for having a top 20 D? As noted, is it a legit goal to give 3-4 years till he has all the pieces, or should he be adapting a scheme to fit the pieces he actually has??? I'll hang up and listen.

Their first real class well be juniors this year. There's also no scheme to adapt to the skills of highsmith etc... a legit time frame is however long it takes as long as the win/loss is at a reasonable level.. if we're winning 10 plus games a year and the defense is ranked 30th I'm not going to **** about it.

That's the difference between fans that approve and disapprove what Golden has done. Win/Loss is one data point. Once you dig deeper into the details you see what is really going on. Had we lost those games in a competitive manner this board wouldn't be so split. Getting handled like we did and the trend, well you know.

The problem is all with expectations... when people were predicting records before the season. 8-9 wins was pretty much the average.. with some people thinking 10-11 if we could get a few things to fall our way... somehow, after our 7-0 start, even though Al was telling us week in and week out that we're not there yet, and that we're still rebuilding, we were all of a sudden supposed to be a 10-12 win team.. also, W/L is the only data point that matters..