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[The Franchise]

Every single school is recruiting Lo, so you can imagine how many reached out last night. For some reason our fan base is all of a sudden standing on moral high ground. Here is something to think about, LJ is graduating this year and the season has been over for a month now, so why would Lo just randomly send out this Tweet? Could it possibly be that MULTIPLE power 5 schools interested in him have already made the offer? Could it be that he wants the school he's most interested in to make the same offer? This **** isn't rocket science.

Could it be crappier schools are willing to take the sucker's risk of giving the cousin a scholarship a year ahead?

I'm all in favor of doing this package deal. No moral high ground talk from me. I'd make the deal in a second on smart terms. Sign the cousin the same day that Lingard signs. Sounds easy.

Otherwise, it's way too open for signing the cousin then terms being added and demanded over the course of the year and Lingard hitting us with an "I had to do what was best for me and my family" as he packs for Columbus, Ohio.

You can appreciate that there are legitimate concerns when you're proposing a package deal one year separated right? You can't blame UM for being skeptical can you? No marquee program (and I know you think UM isn't marquee but we are) makes these sort of year ahead package deals.

If they're so dead set on playing together why doesn't the cousin offer to sit out a year and train then sign at the same time as Lingard? Then you're getting your package deal that you want plus UM gets some assurance on their end.

In any good deal there's give and take. It's not all one-sided dictation of terms.

 

[DaCanes386]

Offer him a preferred walk on spot and if he earns a scholly, so be it. I'm siding with chise and the others who have said this is not a good idea. You can't let recruits dictate these "requirements" for their services.

 

[hiphopanimal]

Who was that small Monarch DB that was potentially in the package with SBB and Ridley?

The name escapes but he was mentioned earlier...

 

[The Franchise]

Every single school is recruiting Lo, so you can imagine how many reached out last night. For some reason our fan base is all of a sudden standing on moral high ground. Here is something to think about, LJ is graduating this year and the season has been over for a month now, so why would Lo just randomly send out this Tweet? Could it possibly be that MULTIPLE power 5 schools interested in him have already made the offer? Could it be that he wants the school he's most interested in to make the same offer? This **** isn't rocket science.

Why not just call the HC rather than tweet it then?

I'm sure he's got a direct line to the HC of every school he's interested in.

Exactly. Why the subterfuge? Why the necessity in tweeting it? It's as simple as picking up the phone and contacting our staff and let them know what his "terms" are.

That's what makes it appear to be fishing for the "best" deal. If it's all about UM then work it out privately with UM.

 

[The Franchise]

just offer the kid the scholly.

Its a ****ing scholarship, it's not the end of the world.

Don't think Richt would do that. This game is a slippery slope. The "offer my boy and I'll come" game is not as prevalent as you all might think. For siblings, sure, but the other sibling has to be a pretty decent prospect. But if not, this is a dangerous game to play with kids. Jmo

Definitely agree. It's a Pandora's box of sorts. Terrible situation to be in with a highly rated recruit and the message it sends to future 5* kids sucks. But IMO you gotta play the game.

Absolutely play the game if they're signing those NLOI on the same day. A year apart? LULZ.

 

[AUcane]

Who was that small Monarch DB that was potentially in the package with SBB and Ridley?

The name escapes but he was mentioned earlier...

I remember that well. All of the insiders were clamoring to sign this kid since he was friends with the 2 others. What happened to that? My guess is reality sets in with these kids and it becomes a game of musical chairs when it comes to going to college. Every man for himself.

 

[The Franchise]

I'm pretty sure Richt has played the package deal game before. I personally loathe it.

I doubt he's done it where the bad half of the package comes in a year before the good half is supposed to come. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone do that.

Few and far between. The other way around, yes.

The last major one I could think of was Denzel nkemdiche at ole miss - came a year before his little brother. But, that is siblings; I've never heard of buddies doing it.

Siblings. Apples and oranges. Plus Denzel was an Old **** level recruit when they signed him. They were a 2 and 3 star factory before they went on that buying spree. Denzel fit right in.

Why is it such a risk to be in the driver's seat? I get that it's not ideal at all but the cousin is supposedly decent and we could use DB depth. If Lingard goes back on his word in a year then you cut the cousin free.

The cousin has FIU and FAU offers. He's not a UM caliber player despite what Tweed and one guy who watched his "film" said.

If they want to play together then sign them on the same day. It's easy. They can even have a ceremony together.

 

[AUcane]

Every single school is recruiting Lo, so you can imagine how many reached out last night. For some reason our fan base is all of a sudden standing on moral high ground. Here is something to think about, LJ is graduating this year and the season has been over for a month now, so why would Lo just randomly send out this Tweet? Could it possibly be that MULTIPLE power 5 schools interested in him have already made the offer? Could it be that he wants the school he's most interested in to make the same offer? This **** isn't rocket science.

Why not just call the HC rather than tweet it then?

I'm sure he's got a direct line to the HC of every school he's interested in.

Exactly. Why the subterfuge? Why the necessity in tweeting it? It's as simple as picking up the phone and contacting our staff and let them know what his "terms" are.

That's what makes it appear to be fishing for the "best" deal. If it's all about UM then work it out privately with UM.

Yep. Seems like fishing. I don't buy the demure, "quiet kid" bit where he's too awkward to directly tell our coaches and instead, turns to twitter. It strains credulity.

 

[ucaned]

There is seemingly no down side to the deal. Scholarships are renewable so a player can be cut per se if needed. We are devoid of talent, and for the star chasers we only have two 5* players on the roster. We can double that by doing the deal.

Cuz comes from 5* bloodlines. That does not mean he will be an impact player, but that plus the chance to be on the field with his family may make him one of those classic UM players that is about his team, plays with heart and gives 110% (those SFLA specials we all talk about - even though he is not from SFLA).

Checkers and chess boys, which game do you want to play boys?

There's no downside to you to letting a recruit dictate offers a year ahead to the weak part of the package deal because it's not your money, job, team and reputation on the line.

Says the man who will ***** when Lo goes elsewhere. Money, job, team and reputation are on the line if you cannot win because you cannot pull in the studs. When you start winning you can dictate the terms, until then you are one in the pack trying to get a leg up. That is why Bama as I think it was you noted does not need to offer cuz.

Supply and demand, they have the supply right now and they know we need it, win the ACC, play for a title, then the tables turn.

 

[fincane]

The Monarch DB was Ronnie Hoggins. He signed with USF.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Every single school is recruiting Lo, so you can imagine how many reached out last night. For some reason our fan base is all of a sudden standing on moral high ground. Here is something to think about, LJ is graduating this year and the season has been over for a month now, so why would Lo just randomly send out this Tweet? Could it possibly be that MULTIPLE power 5 schools interested in him have already made the offer? Could it be that he wants the school he's most interested in to make the same offer? This **** isn't rocket science.

Why not just call the HC rather than tweet it then?

I'm sure he's got a direct line to the HC of every school he's interested in.

Exactly. Why the subterfuge? Why the necessity in tweeting it? It's as simple as picking up the phone and contacting our staff and let them know what his "terms" are.

That's what makes it appear to be fishing for the "best" deal. If it's all about UM then work it out privately with UM.

Yep. Seems like fishing. I don't buy the demure, "quiet kid" bit where he's too awkward to directly tell our coaches and instead, turns to twitter. It strains credulity.

Do you catch more fish by casting a net, or dropping a line?

 

[simplycanes]

This sounds like UM with getting stuck with another sub-P5 level "reach" on the roster when some SEC program busts our "package deal" in 2018.

There is no way signing a 1 or 2 star recruit lands you two 5 stars. UM is never going to be that lucky.

Once his cousin is all setup in his room in Coral Gables, all of a sudden he's wide open again with no clear leader.

Even if this type of arrangement works elsewhere, for some reason, it won't work out for UM, or at a minimum, has a higher probability of failure.

 

[252cane]

Whats so hard about offering the dude? There is several dudes on this team who should not be here. Taking 1 guy is not going to hurt the team at all.

 

[252cane]

This sounds like UM with getting stuck with another sub-P5 level "reach" on the roster when some SEC program busts our "package deal" in 2018.

There is no way signing a 1 or 2 star recruit lands you two 5 stars. UM is never going to be that lucky.

Once his cousin is all setup in his room in Coral Gables, all of a sudden he's wide open again with no clear leader.

Even if this type of arrangement works elsewhere, for some reason, it won't work out for UM, or at a minimum, has a higher probability of failure.

Who said lingard isnt already leaning to miami and wants his cousin there with him? I dont think he is going to any big program that offers his cousin.

 

[112_cane]

black manipulation matters

Kid doesn't want money or cars, he simply wants his cousin (who can ball) to come along for the ride.

That's money. UM costs about $50K per year now. Plus housing and food. He wants UM to give the cousin who isn't cut out for this level all that money.

Can't we just drop off a 250k bag and call it a day?

 

[simplycanes]

Whats so hard about offering the dude? There is several dudes on this team who should not be here. Taking 1 guy is not going to hurt the team at all.

Do you want to win the ACC or compete for titles? Then you're going to have to win games on short weeks when you're carrying some injuries. Yeah, signing a JAG matters.

 

[simplycanes]

This sounds like UM with getting stuck with another sub-P5 level "reach" on the roster when some SEC program busts our "package deal" in 2018.

There is no way signing a 1 or 2 star recruit lands you two 5 stars. UM is never going to be that lucky.

Once his cousin is all setup in his room in Coral Gables, all of a sudden he's wide open again with no clear leader.

Even if this type of arrangement works elsewhere, for some reason, it won't work out for UM, or at a minimum, has a higher probability of failure.

Who said lingard isnt already leaning to miami and wants his cousin there with him? I dont think he is going to any big program that offers his cousin.

How long have you been following recruiting? No one is leaning UM until they sign with UM.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

black manipulation matters

Kid doesn't want money or cars, he simply wants his cousin (who can ball) to come along for the ride.

That's money. UM costs about $50K per year now. Plus housing and food. He wants UM to give the cousin who isn't cut out for this level all that money.

Can't we just drop off a 250k bag and call it a day?

The kid doesn't want money or cars, he just wants a chance to play with his cousin at the "right" school.

 

[252cane]

Whats so hard about offering the dude? There is several dudes on this team who should not be here. Taking 1 guy is not going to hurt the team at all.

Do you want to win the ACC or compete for titles? Then you're going to have to win games on short weeks when you're carrying some injuries. Yeah, signing a JAG matters.

Signing 1 doesnt. No team uses 85 players.

 

[252cane]

This sounds like UM with getting stuck with another sub-P5 level "reach" on the roster when some SEC program busts our "package deal" in 2018.

There is no way signing a 1 or 2 star recruit lands you two 5 stars. UM is never going to be that lucky.

Once his cousin is all setup in his room in Coral Gables, all of a sudden he's wide open again with no clear leader.

Even if this type of arrangement works elsewhere, for some reason, it won't work out for UM, or at a minimum, has a higher probability of failure.

Who said lingard isnt already leaning to miami and wants his cousin there with him? I dont think he is going to any big program that offers his cousin.

How long have you been following recruiting? No one is leaning UM until they sign with UM.

He cant sign yet he is 2018. Every recruit aint the same. Like i said if texas a&m offers his cousin he isnt going there.