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After being predicted to be the laughing stock of the conference last year and actually finishing as co-champs, i am all in next season. we have a more managebale schedule and i think the brusies we got last year has made us a better overall team.

Now ia m not saying that golden is Saban, but even Saban did not win his 1st year at Bama, because he had to build a program. and thats what golden is doing, building a program for longterm sustainable success, so that once we start winning we keep on winning.

I am all in, GO CANES!!!
 
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Duval904 said:
The Franchise said:
I was on that corch game before this board existed.
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lets fight it out!

i was on it back on grassy right when ol girl pulled it out!
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Shanntard must have had a similar affect to Ms. Brown because I got it from an interview with him when he used the same sort of pronunciation. Shortly after, I started calling him Corch. I didn't even know this thing with Ms. Brown existed.
 
duppy03 said:
After being predicted to be the laughing stock of the conference last year and actually finishing as co-champs, i am all in next season. we have a more managebale schedule and i think the brusies we got last year has made us a better overall team.

Now ia m not saying that golden is Saban, but even Saban did not win his 1st year at Bama, because he had to build a program. and thats what golden is doing, building a program for longterm sustainable success, so that once we start winning we keep on winning.

I am all in, GO CANES!!!
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Not picking on your post but I've seen a lot of talk about Saban and not winning at Bama his first year as a comparison for Golden. Saban was already a long established head coach at that point. Golden has only coached a few years. Makes more sense to compare Saban's early years at Michigan St than Alabama, and if you look at MSU's progress when he got there, its actually pretty similar.

They had not had a winning record since 1990 when Saban arrived and he took them to minor bowl games with records of 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5, 6-6 the next year with big upsets over OSU and ND and then they went 9-2. Then LSU and his success.
 
JHallCanes said:
duppy03 said:
After being predicted to be the laughing stock of the conference last year and actually finishing as co-champs, i am all in next season. we have a more managebale schedule and i think the brusies we got last year has made us a better overall team.

Now ia m not saying that golden is Saban, but even Saban did not win his 1st year at Bama, because he had to build a program. and thats what golden is doing, building a program for longterm sustainable success, so that once we start winning we keep on winning.

I am all in, GO CANES!!!
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Not picking on your post but I've seen a lot of talk about Saban and not winning at Bama his first year as a comparison for Golden. Saban was already a long established head coach at that point. Golden has only coached a few years. Makes more sense to compare Saban's early years at Michigan St than Alabama, and if you look at MSU's progress when he got there, its actually pretty similar.

They had not had a winning record since 1990 when Saban arrived and he took them to minor bowl games with records of 6-5-1, 6-6, 7-5, 6-6 the next year with big upsets over OSU and ND and then they went 9-2. Then LSU and his success.
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This is a good point but it still makes it a good point to mention his 1st year at Bama because even being an established great college coach it's hard to just hit the ground running. And Saban didn't inherit a mess like Golden did either.


I believe, if Saban was in the exact same situation as Golden found himself when the Shapiro story broke, he bolts. He probably bolts straight to UF to try and take advantage of the recruiting situation.
 
420, I agree for sure. Just pointing out we constantly see that comparison but don't really touch in Sabans early coaching career, that's all.

He inherited a mess at Bama. Not too long back they didn't even have a player drafted.
 
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10 wins. If key players stay relatively healthy- 10 wins. Nothing more..nothing less.

I don't have a problem going on record as not being sold on Golden's gameday coaching- at all. He has to show me that he can hang with teams he has no business hanging with and absolutely destroying teams that he should destroy. That's called "elite coaching". Look, Al gives a good interview and his organizational skills and recruiting intensity are great and all, but that doesn't exactly equal "elite" coaching..and the suckking off of this guy is at epic proportions. Why??? "Golden get's it"...*****, Golden better get 10 wins, that's what his *** better be gett'n..lest we totally **** away a potentially great 2014 recruiting class as we continue to watch top talent walk right outta our back yard while reconciling the phenomenom with that dumb *** "we only want kids who want to be Canes" bullsh1t.

Guys..an elite coach doesn't need 4 and 5* studs at every position to win. Great coaches win by out scheming their opponent's. They take away an opponant's strengths while masking their own weaknesses. Elite coaches don't get run out of the building whenever they face a more talented opponent, they hang with more talented teams...their gameday fate often depends on who has the ball last or the proverbial "bounce of the ball either way" when facing a similarly situated opponent (equal talent/coaching). They absolutely rape teams like Duke, UVA, BC, etc..

I'm sorry, but I don't see that in Al- at least not yet. Yeah, we've had the sanction **** and, yeah- he came on the heels of Shannon, but this year? No excuses. Our team is young, but we have experience at the right positions (GB, OL, LB, CB, S). Our offense should be high powered. Yeah, our defense sux ***, but what offensive juggernauts are we facing this season??? We should simply outscore most opponents on the schedule. Amirite???

UF will show us whether we have the real thing or a very articulate, well organized imposter. Show me something, Al. Please...
 
Duvalco.Cane said:
10 wins. If key players stay relatively healthy- 10 wins. Nothing more..nothing less.

I don't have a problem going on record as not being sold on Golden's gameday coaching- at all. He has to show me that he can hang with teams he has no business hanging with and absolutely destroying teams that he should destroy. That's called "elite coaching". Look, Al gives a good interview and his organizational skills and recruiting intensity are great and all, but that doesn't exactly equal "elite" coaching..and the suckking off of this guy is at epic proportions. Why??? "Golden get's it"...*****, Golden better get 10 wins, that's what his *** better be gett'n..lest we totally **** away a potentially great 2014 recruiting class as we continue to watch top talent walk right outta our back yard while reconciling the phenomenom with that dumb *** "we only want kids who want to be Canes" bullsh1t.

Guys..an elite coach doesn't need 4 and 5* studs at every position to win. Great coaches win by out scheming their opponent's. They take away an opponant's strengths while masking their own weaknesses. Elite coaches don't get run out of the building whenever they face a more talented opponent, they hang with more talented teams...their gameday fate often depends on who has the ball last or the proverbial "bounce of the ball either way" when facing a similarly situated opponent (equal talent/coaching). They absolutely rape teams like Duke, UVA, BC, etc..

I'm sorry, but I don't see that in Al- at least not yet. Yeah, we've had the sanction **** and, yeah- he came on the heels of Shannon, but this year? No excuses. Our team is young, but we have experience at the right positions (GB, OL, LB, CB, S). Our offense should be high powered. Yeah, our defense sux ***, but what offensive juggernauts are we facing this season??? We should simply outscore most opponents on the schedule. Amirite???

UF will show us whether we have the real thing or a very articulate, well organized imposter. Show me something, Al. Please...
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I don't think it takes an "elite" coach to win at UM. Barring serious injuries, a competent coach can win 10 games this year at UM. And for the record, I only see 4-5 elite coaches in college football.
 
Duvalco.Cane said:
10 wins. If key players stay relatively healthy- 10 wins. Nothing more..nothing less.

I don't have a problem going on record as not being sold on Golden's gameday coaching- at all. He has to show me that he can hang with teams he has no business hanging with and absolutely destroying teams that he should destroy. That's called "elite coaching". Look, Al gives a good interview and his organizational skills and recruiting intensity are great and all, but that doesn't exactly equal "elite" coaching..and the suckking off of this guy is at epic proportions. Why??? "Golden get's it"...*****, Golden better get 10 wins, that's what his *** better be gett'n..lest we totally **** away a potentially great 2014 recruiting class as we continue to watch top talent walk right outta our back yard while reconciling the phenomenom with that dumb *** "we only want kids who want to be Canes" bullsh1t.

Guys..an elite coach doesn't need 4 and 5* studs at every position to win. Great coaches win by out scheming their opponent's. They take away an opponant's strengths while masking their own weaknesses. Elite coaches don't get run out of the building whenever they face a more talented opponent, they hang with more talented teams...their gameday fate often depends on who has the ball last or the proverbial "bounce of the ball either way" when facing a similarly situated opponent (equal talent/coaching). They absolutely rape teams like Duke, UVA, BC, etc..

I'm sorry, but I don't see that in Al- at least not yet. Yeah, we've had the sanction **** and, yeah- he came on the heels of Shannon, but this year? No excuses. Our team is young, but we have experience at the right positions (GB, OL, LB, CB, S). Our offense should be high powered. Yeah, our defense sux ***, but what offensive juggernauts are we facing this season??? We should simply outscore most opponents on the schedule. Amirite???

UF will show us whether we have the real thing or a very articulate, well organized imposter. Show me something, Al. Please...
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Man, now you really sound like a hater. Aint nobody 'sucking off' nothing from Golden. But we have all seen the plan that he has. Is he an elite Coach now? **** nah. you think Saban, an elite coach, would have won a NC with our 2012 team, ***** no. Saban is elite because his players are elite, they are all blue chippers. and not until he was able to BUILD his rpogram that way, is he able to enjoy SUSTAINED success.

Golden is building, as did Berger when he came in and Butch when the program fell off. We are BUILDING, we are nowhere we need to be as a team, neither is Golden as but if you can't see that we are heading in the right direction then you are just being an unreasonable person.

GO CANES!!
 
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he's right. you do have some dudes who suck him off so much dude has to have a california raisin for a ****** by now

sheesh
 
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Ghandi said:
Pierre schooling the young guy...
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That's what happened all last year when Miami played. That is a Odogwu is a big kid, but he is still young. That's what happens when an older kid who's been in a college weight program goes up against a freshman.
 
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JHallCanes said:
420, I agree for sure. Just pointing out we constantly see that comparison but don't really touch in Sabans early coaching career, that's all.

He inherited a mess at Bama. Not too long back they didn't even have a player drafted.
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I think the comparison of Saban's timeline at Bama is better because Miami actually does have the ability to recruit the best players, something MSU can't claim.

It took Saban 5 years to raise the bar at MSU because he didn't have elite talent in his backyard. He never had a D[]_[]KE at MSU. Even now Saban has to get a lot of talent from outside his state, in his #1 class 18 of the 26 were OOS.

This is not a problem Golden has to deal with here in Miami. The hometown kids with family and emotional ties to the program are the best players in the country. Has he kept them all? No. He is getting a lot of the kids to stay though and that is with all of the sanction stuff and mediocre seasons so far.

This season will be the final step for Golden, we are going to win a lot of games impressively. Our offense is going to be eXXXplosive. We are going to beat at least one in state rival and if things go smoothly in June we will play in a top 6 bowl game against a notable opponent. Giving us a chance to let the kids in 2014 see that they could be the final piece to the BCS Title puzzle.

They way this cycle has started, and hopefully will continue on with some big commits after spring, I'm not sure that Golden hasn't sold 'em on it already. It's been said over and over again but, we just gotta get the wins. 10 or more wins with an ACCCG trip/win plus a win against UF and/or FSU and we can expect to be an elite squad year in and year out until Golden leaves or the NCAA tries to take us down again.
 
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duppy03 said:
Duvalco.Cane said:
10 wins. If key players stay relatively healthy- 10 wins. Nothing more..nothing less.

I don't have a problem going on record as not being sold on Golden's gameday coaching- at all. He has to show me that he can hang with teams he has no business hanging with and absolutely destroying teams that he should destroy. That's called "elite coaching". Look, Al gives a good interview and his organizational skills and recruiting intensity are great and all, but that doesn't exactly equal "elite" coaching..and the suckking off of this guy is at epic proportions. Why??? "Golden get's it"...*****, Golden better get 10 wins, that's what his *** better be gett'n..lest we totally **** away a potentially great 2014 recruiting class as we continue to watch top talent walk right outta our back yard while reconciling the phenomenom with that dumb *** "we only want kids who want to be Canes" bullsh1t.

Guys..an elite coach doesn't need 4 and 5* studs at every position to win. Great coaches win by out scheming their opponent's. They take away an opponant's strengths while masking their own weaknesses. Elite coaches don't get run out of the building whenever they face a more talented opponent, they hang with more talented teams...their gameday fate often depends on who has the ball last or the proverbial "bounce of the ball either way" when facing a similarly situated opponent (equal talent/coaching). They absolutely rape teams like Duke, UVA, BC, etc..

I'm sorry, but I don't see that in Al- at least not yet. Yeah, we've had the sanction **** and, yeah- he came on the heels of Shannon, but this year? No excuses. Our team is young, but we have experience at the right positions (GB, OL, LB, CB, S). Our offense should be high powered. Yeah, our defense sux ***, but what offensive juggernauts are we facing this season??? We should simply outscore most opponents on the schedule. Amirite???

UF will show us whether we have the real thing or a very articulate, well organized imposter. Show me something, Al. Please...
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Man, now you really sound like a hater. Aint nobody 'sucking off' nothing from Golden. But we have all seen the plan that he has. Is he an elite Coach now? **** nah. you think Saban, an elite coach, would have won a NC with our 2012 team, ***** no. Saban is elite because his players are elite, they are all blue chippers. and not until he was able to BUILD his rpogram that way, is he able to enjoy SUSTAINED success.

Golden is building, as did Berger when he came in and Butch when the program fell off. We are BUILDING, we are nowhere we need to be as a team, neither is Golden as but if you can't see that we are heading in the right direction then you are just being an unreasonable person.

GO CANES!!
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LOL, and just how do I sound like a hater? ....and yeah, Golden is "building" something...but this is the year where the ol' magnifying glasses come out. This is the year that we begin to see a more clear picture of what we actually have on our hands. It's as simple as that, bro.

Al's a "great" recruiter, right? Well....that means that he has, over the course of two full recruiting cycles, amassed a roster full of young talent. These two classes of talented kids have taken their lumps and gained experience over the past year/two years...right?- OK, so we have a team full of young, talented and experienced players....right??? Now...this young, talented and experienced team are currently preparing for an upcoming season that boasts such a favorable schedule, it would be shameful if we didn't come away with AT LEAST 8 wins. Right???

Now, here's where my point comes into play. If our team remains relatively healthy (the term "relatively" is used because by week 3, noone on is completely "healthy"- anyone who has actually played CFB can attest to this), then an "elite"- no- a "good" coach gets us to 10 wins by simply out- scheming teams with similar talent (UNC, VT) and "should" split (UF/ FSU) by the literal "bounce of the ball either way", i.e. a close, competitive game. Losing to both of these teams? Unacceptable. Period. A good coach finds a way to win at least one of these games.."elite" coaches probably win both and we are in the MNC game.

Just be "good", Al. Just be at least "good"..... . Either way, we'll know by the end of the UF game.... No excuses.
 
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The Franchise said:
Duvalco.Cane said:
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Seantrel got owned in that video, came off the ball waayyyy too high
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By Corey King.

Good god
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LULZ. We watched a different video.
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Humph**.....some people don't really know what they're lookin at, Franchise...
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Big Hendo made Corey look like he had a hinge in his lower back. What do dudes expect?
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LOL....shows me that King is getting better. This is a good thing....kid didn't get completely blown off the ball...
 
Looked to me like T-Rell called the dogs off before he snapped King in half. Hey, King can bench 225 50 11 times though
 
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