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drewFLAK said:
canegang3 said:
figueroa may be good but we dont pass up ELITE TALENT IN OUR BACKYARD TO GO AFTER TERRELL BROOKS
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You can't pass up what wasn't coming in the first place.
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Kirkland was coming. That's why you're seeing this reaction out of Ice. Kirkland was going to come, but was not being straight up with the coaches, they lost Thomas after tonight's in-home, and they said **** it, if you're not going to commit to us right now we have other kids who will.
 
BrandCanes said:
The Franchise said:
I'm guessing the DL commit was Brooks.
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come home son (and your sister Ibiz) - you are missed -
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Neither one of us would ever in a zillion years consider going back to that place. Only thing we're bummed about is that we took too long to quit that ****. Too many f#cking snake-in-the-grass turncoat duplicitous four-flushers.

Shame, though, because there were some good guys there like you and a few others. Unfortunately, all the good guys got drowned out by the *****. LULZ at them actually bringing fugging Brady back.
 
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weownfsu said:
CANE4LIFE said:
weownfsu said:
The Franchise said:
weownfsu said:
Can't believe we're going to lose Matthew thomas.
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Maybe we already lost Thomas, and that's what made Al less forgiving of Denver's bullshyt games of not wanting to tell Barrow he was committed.

Probably not the case, but just an alternative thought.

Or, perhaps, they talked to Thomas and his family and axed them if we give Denver a deadline to commit because we can't get caught holding our dycks would that turn you off to UM and make you go somewhere else, and Thomas and family said, "No. I'm still coming to UM."

I just seriously doubt that Al flew off the handle here and did this without considering all of the possible repercussions. He's been too smart and calculating so far to think he'd just throw everything away because he got antsy with one guy.
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I do think that is actually the case. I think we lost him and said **** it, especially if Ice and crew were telling UM all along that they'd get those kids.
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Yep, they had to have figured the Thomas situation before doing this. My guess is Coley told them the real deal on these kids, and that they couldnt take what Harris was saying as truth. They figured Thomas was probably gone, and so they decided to force Kirkland's hand. When he balked we walked since we need DL more than another OL anyway, and its not going to matter with Thomas anyway.

The situation with Harris somehow has to get somewhat smoothed over, but I wonder if the staff knows that Harris is playing games too and have lost faith in him too, maybe that is why he is so hot.
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Credit to you. I thought Thomas was a lock but you called this. I'm thinking the same thing with Harris. I think they may have thought he was full of it and said **** it, we don't care. We'll lose the 1 or 2 BTW kids every year and deal with it.
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Man I hope Im wrong. I hope this is all just a big tiff over some bullsh*t. Believe me, I wanted Thomas BAD.. as much as anyone, but I just havent had a good feeling on the kid in a while. Still hope that maybe this will play out different, that maybe wants to stay home, but the way this has played out, I think its the proverbial writing on the wall, and Golden knew the score before he pulled the move.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
Yep, they had to have figured the Thomas situation before doing this. My guess is Coley told them the real deal on these kids, and that they couldnt take what Harris was saying as truth. They figured Thomas was probably gone, and so they decided to force Kirkland's hand. When he balked we walked since we need DL more than another OL anyway, and its not going to matter with Thomas anyway.
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If that is the case, then it is shortsighted and female shouldered to the extent that I question the sanity of the UM staff. If they weren't getting Kirkland or Thomas, how does doing what they (allegedly) did help them in any way? They're taking the massive PR hit because they are mad at Kirkland? The whole cutting off their nose to spite their face thing?
 
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weownfsu said:
drewFLAK said:
canegang3 said:
figueroa may be good but we dont pass up ELITE TALENT IN OUR BACKYARD TO GO AFTER TERRELL BROOKS
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You can't pass up what wasn't coming in the first place.
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Kirkland was coming. That's why you're seeing this reaction out of Ice. Kirkland was going to come, but was not being straight up.
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i think ice thought kirk was coming. im not so sure if kirk thought kirk was coming. he was given an opportunity and an ultimatum and he balked. i'm not so sure that kirk was coming.
 
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Roster right now in Mr Seantrel Henderson.

Mr. Henderson makes Denver look like me in terms of talent. Mr Henderson also couldn't make up his mind about anything and is going into his senior year having done nothing.

I think the coaches flat out want to avoid the kids that take it too far with the game playing. If a guy like Kirkland doesn't know where he wants to go after all of his vists.....forget it. Kid has no shot at the mental grind of college football. History agrees.
 
weownfsu said:
Madbugger said:
It's the same every year. The best players on our team are those that have never played a snap.

Just develop the players. The rest will take care of itself.
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Dumb statement; useless discussion.
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How so? It's the same every year. How many highly touted players have come through both um and fsu the last decade just to bust out? Yet the top programs over that same period "hit" on their guys.

Develop the talent, and you'll win games. Then you can get the better high school players and start the development at a higher level.
 
I get mad every year when kids that are highly recruited wait to the last minute and then say I always wanted to be a cane. Well stupid if you wanted to be a cane commit so you can help recruit. I don't feel sorry for kirkland and the bush league **** Tim ice harris just pulled. I hope miami does not offer his son I don't want 3 year kids anyway.
 
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