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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

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Tony4Canes said:
Did you read all that??
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It was an interesting "what if":

-ESPN is supposedly offering to take FSU / Clemson to the SEC for half shares initially, gradually increasing to full shares some
years down the road.
-ESPN would essentially sub lease the media rights from the ACC.
-If the ACC / Clemson / FSU agree ... then ESPN would extend the media agreement for the rest of the ACC members through 2036,
but would negotiate a new media payout to reflect the loss of FSU / Clemson viewership $$$ value.
-IF the deal is not accepted then ESPN would not extend the media deal, it ends after the 2026 season, the prime brands in the ACC would
migrate to the P2, if they have offers, others would leave for the B12, and whoever remains would then be forced with looking for a new
media deal.

That is the BAD thing about not being actively involved in a suit against the ACC ... a "deal" could be cut that makes getting out harder for those that aren't involved in the "new deal". Very few people know what is actually going on ... but it is not status quo.
 
CaneinBroward said:
Of course it does. However, what percentage of the college football viewing market in SFL does the University of Miami provide? Hopefully it's enough to satisfy B1G desires.
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Last year's matchup with TAMU had over 4 million viewers. That's not too shabby for a pair of 5-7 teams. It definitely shows we've got plenty of eyes if we field a decent product.
 
FL Cane said:
Yeah FSU isn’t bringing them the SFL market like Miami is. You can’t say on the one hand UCLA helps bring the second biggest tv market to the BIG (when Miami comparatively has better TV #’s than they do), and then wave off Miami bring SFL because maybe they think FSU can. Miami and FSU have distinct markets.
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The Miami TV market isn't really that large (It's only Dade County), more than half do not speak English and a lot less give a crap about college football.
 
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*****-Wan Kanobi said:
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stomp stomping GIF
 
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Angry Ibis said:
Where is Miami in this?
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JeJe, unless Miami filed a suit against the ACC and forgot to publicize it, I guess, in THAT scenario, IF that proposal were accepted, Miami is in the ACC for a loooong time ... but they would have to AGREE to the newly proposed media deal (which will be less than the current one). That is the big concern at THIS juncture, that ESPN will orchestrate some sort of mediation that will get FSU / Clemson out of the ACC, into the SEC, and also LOCK the ACC into a new GOR effective through 2036. Then we're screwed. Miami needed to be fighting to get out, not protecting the status quo. Hope FSU doesn't cut that kind of deal, ESPN doesn't extend, and we get to the B10. But UM needs to WANT IT and fight to get there. Haven't seen any sign of life in that regard so far.
 
Rickd said:
JeJe, unless Miami filed a suit against the ACC and forgot to publicize it, I guess, in THAT scenario, IF that proposal were accepted, Miami is in the ACC for a loooong time ... but they would have to AGREE to the newly proposed media deal (which will be less than the current one). That is the big concern at THIS juncture, that ESPN will orchestrate some sort of mediation that will get FSU / Clemson out of the ACC, into the SEC, and also LOCK the ACC into a new GOR effective through 2036. Then we're screwed. Miami needed to be fighting to get out, not protecting the status quo. Hope FSU doesn't cut that kind of deal, ESPN doesn't extend, and we get to the B10. But UM needs to WANT IT and fight to get there. Haven't seen any sign of life in that regard so far.
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You seem to forget that Miami and the rest of the Conference would need to agree to such a settlement. That would include other brands that want to get out, such as UNC. There's no way we'd agree to any such deal locking us into the conference long term. Especially at a lower payout. Not happening.
 
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TpaBayFlyFisher said:
IF FSU and Clem were to join the SEC, that would not take B1G spots [if any remain] that might be available to us.
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Bingo! We need to help usher them out the door. I still think that Miami has a wink nod agreement with the ACC as far as getting out when the time is right. That is why they are going along to help the ACC stay afloat after those that want to leave, leave.
 
Tony4Canes said:
Did you read all that??
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I did read all of it, and it does make sense for ESPN to broker this deal for their own self-interest.

Strategic questions if above comes to fruition:
1) What does ESPN + ACC offer remaining "big" ACC programs to stay through 2036 as offset? Miami + UNC are going to demand bigger slice of pie
2) What does ESPN + Big12 offer Miami + UNC (and BB schools) to jump ship? I think that Yormark cat is an evil genius and isn't afraid of ANYBODY
3) ESPN moves almost demand Fox + BIG10 make run at Miami + UNC to encircle SEC geographically


Shalala better be advocating 24/7 for The U....


Thoughts????
 
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CaneinBroward said:
Of course it does. However, what percentage of the college football viewing market in SFL does the University of Miami provide? Hopefully it's enough to satisfy B1G desires.
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The lack of knowledge on publicly available information is pretty mind-boggling. Miami -even at 7-5 thus getting less good networks and timeslots - was still a top 25 to top 30 draw. For those who can’t do math, the entire Big Ten and SEC are 34 teams (for now). Obviously, there are teams in the top 25 that are not in those conferences but you get the general extraction point.

Markets matter, but it’s more about the national overall audience, especially for somebody like Fox who sells more of their inventory that way. It’s also about what matchups would result and what rivalries are continued, reestablished, or possibly initiated.

A 24/7 poll of 1600 recruits in 2023 - meaning players that weren’t even born the last time Miami was pretty much relevant- still had Miami ranked as a top 10 brand.

The things some people worry about in this entire conversation are pretty pointless. Miami brand value is so strong that even after 20 years of sucking and having a basically 500 record, the school still draws, despite being among the smallest alumni and student bases in CFB Div 1. Don’t let empty seats because of mediocrity and ****** schedules get you confused about national brand appeal and TV ratings upside.

All the networks know what happens to ratings when Miami is good or plays a name brand and they know the floor is still better than 80% of college football even Miami sucks.

That’s not being a homer that’s just ******* facts.

My fear is not based on any of that kind of crap - to the degree that it exists it is around that I am not a big believer in Miami’s ability to get out of their way at times until proven differently, or an unforeseen wildcard - even though my strong view remains that we will be playing USC sometime in the not too distant future - and it won’t be an out of conference game or only because of a playoff matchup or god forbid meeting in the whogivesa**** bowl.
 
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TpaBayFlyFisher said:
IF FSU and Clem were to join the SEC, that would not take B1G spots [if any remain] that might be available to us.
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I don't think any teams are going to the B1G until the end of the GOR. When that actually ends, who knows. Hopefully 2027. But Clemson and FSU will be able to jump the SEC whenever because espn wants it to happen, and the acc is going to be on board with the plan because it gets rid of its two most vocal critics and turns down the temperature on acc leadership.
 
Empirical Cane said:
I did read all of it, and it does make sense for ESPN to broker this deal for their own self-interest.

Strategic questions if above comes to fruition:
1) What does ESPN + ACC offer remaining "big" ACC programs to stay through 2036 as offset? Miami + UNC are going to demand bigger slice of pie
2) What does ESPN + Big12 offer Miami + UNC (and BB schools) to jump ship? I think that Yormark cat is an evil genius and isn't afraid of ANYBODY
3) ESPN moves almost demands Fox + BIG10 make run at Miami + UNC to encircle SEC geographically


Shalala better be advocating 24/7 for The U....


Thoughts????
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No way Miami should be signing off on the "negotiated deal" with a reduced ACC media payout and equal distribution. That is a new GOR ... we don't sign ... we leave. Has Donna greased the skids to the B10?
 
Cane6 said:
The ACC schools know the conference leaders have fuqed them at every opportunity, excluding the North Carolina schools, you don’t think the rest of the universities talk to each other?

You think fsu or Clemson really didn’t know about the emergency vote that Phillips called?

My god some of you are stupid

The sky is falling, Miami is stuck in the ACC with Wake Forest and Boston College until 2036…. Keep on believing that
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Taking it a step further to connect the dots for the stupid people

1. We know 7-8 ACC schools met in the past 18 months to strategize as to how to get out of the GoR deal, FSU Clemson and Miami had been meeting together and snooping around ACC office long before that

2. You are all idiots if you think FSU and Clemson are operating independently in their lawsuits without alignment from the other Group of 7 schools

3. FSU resides in the most advantageous state from a lawsuit standpoint, while also being at the state capital, which holds political weight, and is a public university. For those reasons FSU was ALWAYS going to be the lead in filing suit compared to Miami. The FSU attorney portraying the state tax payers covering the hypothetical fsu exit fees was 100% the right play, which Miami as a private university couldn’t pitch. I would be shocked if Miami wasn’t subsidizing FSU’s legal expenses, informally, and both schools were aligned with the plan.

4. The ACC started with the 4 North Carolina a schools, none of them were ever going to be the first school to sue the conference. What is telling, is that UNC has been way more vocal in their displeasure with the conference and tv money

5. Miami and Notre Dame getting AAU status in 2023 wasn’t by accident. FSU is pushing to get it asap and likely will get it in June

6. The ACC totally screwed fsu last year for the playoffs, and Miami has their best shot in years, and therefore isn’t publicly ****ing off Jim Phillips going into the 2024 season

7. TV viewership and broadcast fees trump everything else. Miami is the fastest growing metropolitan area in the whole country. Miami’s average attendance at Hard Rock is irrelevant in the value formula that FOX and the BigTen look at

A lot of you guys really need to think bigger picture.
 
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