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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Imukat said:
For sure. UNC/Duke is a bigger rivalry to most outsiders looking in. Duke is far more prestigious than NC St and even if Duke ain’t all that in football, their academics is top notch and they’re a hoops blue blood.
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It’s politics.

UNC and NCSU are tied at the hip. The true “Tobacco Road” public schools that old-school NC residents and legislators care about.

Duke is the private school that draws heavily from the NY/NJ region for its student body. They were basically nobodies in sports until coach K put them on the map.
 
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@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
 
Rickd said:
@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
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Or maybe it’s a fake account like the one people thought was his here was

I’m not a fan of his but
 
Rickd said:
@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
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Does ESPN even have a contract with the Big Ten? I thought the Big Ten was Fox, CBS, and NBC.
 
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Ispyin said:
Or maybe it’s a fake account like the one people thought was his here was

I’m not a fan of his but
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No ... that is HIS account on Warchant .... started posting and discussing the FSU suit etc a couple of weeks ago.
 
TooColdToHold said:
Does ESPN even have a contract with the Big Ten? I thought the Big Ten was Fox, CBS, and NBC.
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ESPN has a huge bargaining chip ... the CFP renewal for 7 years after the current one expires. Have heard a lot of comments that there are plenty of "things" that can be negotiated. Including giving FOX etc some early CFP broadcasts. Who knows. There is a). What is really going on behind closed doors ... and that is in flux and b). What people are given to leak.
 
passitback said:
IDGAF what genitals56 has to say about realignment. I think people are placing far too much stock into what he posts.

I find posters like @FL Cane to be far more believable.

Sometimes less is more, and it seems like he just wants people to read whatever he writes.
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Well it does **** me off that a guy who "poses" as an impartial information source comes out and makes the comment that "I would find it hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". Que come mierda!
 
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Rickd said:
@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
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Shocking.
 
Rickd said:
Well it does **** me off that a guy who "poses" as an impartial information source comes out and makes the comment that "I would find it hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". Que come mierda!
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I See You Smh GIF by Miami HEAT
 
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Rickd said:
@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
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Not concerned. Our CIS insiders said we already locked in this ****

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FL Cane said:
Miami generally understands that staying in the ACC would be a death sentence for the FB program. Miami Athletics is working in a much more quiet manner than its other ACC competitors in figuring out its next steps. Rudy Fernandez, Dan R., key members of the BOT, and big $$$ donors are leading the way here. This is not a situation where Miami is sleeping at the wheel. Miami knows that it has to find a landing spot, the Big 10 being the most likely destination. However, this leads into the next point...
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I want to believe this, I really do. But the JD Arteaga hire just destroyed my perception of anyone associated with the Athletic Department, especially Rad, as being smart and proactive. We had a chance to make the baseball program elite, but they made the laziest hire possible from a failing regime. They literally did the same thing a couple years earlier with hiring Diaz. And well... I'm not rehashing the debate about our football HC. Lets just all agree there was no real coaching search.

The guys in charge have shown time and again that they prioritize making sure their friends are taken care of first. Twice might be a coincidence, but 3 times is a pattern. They have been besties with the acc brass for a very long time.

If the pattern holds, what concerns me is that UM might have been quietly gauging the B1Gs interest but not pushing too hard to avoid angering the ACC, while other programs like FSU, Clemson, and UNC didn't care about the acc's feelings. They made their preliminary agreements with the P2 already and said "We're finding a way out of the acc, so keep the light on for us."

Those schools leave the conference as they already have the deal parameters in place, while "UM insiders" post that sources in the program were caught completely by surprise and that, "We had it all planned out to join the B1G but Notre Dame screwed us" or the "The North Carolina legislature screwed us by tying NC St to UNC" or "It was just bad timing" etc etc.

Again I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just looking at the sorry state of UM sports right now and it's hard times for a UM fan. I'm not seeing any proof that the AD has a path to get UM sports back to the top that is any different than the failed plans put out by his predecessors, and making a deal with the P2 while still in the acc is just something he isnt willing to do.
 
Rickd said:
@Genetics56 has become a flat out FSU fan. He posted a comment this morning on Warchant related to ESPN "rumors in the B10 is ESPN is not planning to extend the ACC media agreement and taking it's prime assets to the SEC and B10. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Miami were relegated to the kids table in the B12". He is a Nebraska fan ... so maybe he is looking for vengeance.
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I think he knows stuff but he's all about self promotion and stroking his ego. A little fame and social media influence has gone to his head. He has pinned to the top of his X page this:
As many may know, I was one of the first, if not the first person to bring the conversation of a college athletics breakaway to Twitter (now X) a couple of years ago...
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I wonder why all attention is focused on fsu, I'd guess it is because they are involved in the lawsuits. I am curious though why they are acting alone. I saw one report that North Carolina and North Carolina State are soliciting the BIG as joined together. This rather disturbed fsu folks and I can understand why. So far all we have is rumors. Meanwhile I wonder what our real position and what actions we might take besides simply waiting to see the fsu outcome. I believe if we are serious about jumping we should reluctantly join with those who actively are pursuing other options, not my preference. I also wonder why and if the SEC and BIG are pursuing more additions. It seems both the SEC and BIG are crowded already yet many seem confident that ACC schools threatening to leave know where they will end up. If they don't could they end up without a partner at the dance? I think that is possible.
I have some problems with the ACC BUT I like the teams in it that we regularly schedule. All have decent climates and are competitive but ones we can dominate. I'd hate to see us in the BIG simply because of weather and style of play. The BIG has 18 teams already and the SEC 16 so it seems more likely the SEC has room for 2 more. Is the speculation about us wanting out valid? Are we being silent to avoid controversy? or are we not interested in moving? I don't like ACC officials and that needs to be addressed soon, but I do like the competition we face and as implied I like our weather for football and without any changes we have the best basketball teams in the NCAA. Our baseball teams are fun to watch and are all competitive, I'm reluctant to see us move out of the ACC and hope that the financial imbalance can be fixed soon.
 
passitback said:
IDGAF what genitals56 has to say about realignment. I think people are placing far too much stock into what he posts.

I find posters like @FL Cane to be far more believable.

Sometimes less is more, and it seems like he just wants people to read whatever he writes.
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Appreciate that. I've never called myself an insider (as I believe there's people on this board that know far more than I do typically) but on this issue in particular, I am lucky to have some insight that I can share.

The big issue with Genetics is that it is very obvious that while he is a guy that evidently has some good sources, he's extrapolating out his info beyond a reasonable degree. What I mean by that is if Genetics has enough info to give you "A" and maybe make a prediction on "B," he'll give you "A", hype up "B," and then tell you why it leads all the way to "E." It's just not credible to extrapolate out that far. Personally, I think the attention he's received has got to his head, and he's just trying to pump out content now. What really turned me off to him is when he tweeted out that "insider" account of our athletic department and financials. It read like a hit piece fanfiction directly from the Warchant boards, and I know for a fact that 95% of the info on there was blatantly false or at best a very creative reading of what's actually going. It read like very clearly laundered talking points from a rival school/fanbase. So overall, he does have sources and info he's put out good stuff before, i just think he's speculative beyond a reasonable degree.

I'd also say this for any "outsiders" trying to get information about the state of our Athletic Department or football program. Unlike prior AD's and coaching regimes, the current AD and program are operating on a very need to know basis/closed information ecosystem. Even contact that was normal with previous coaching staffs isn't the norm today. Mario and the program get priority in areas around the school that previous coaches did not have. The FB program is the top priority in athletics right now, and the school's entire long-term athletics strategy is predicated on football getting back to what it used to be. Mario also doesn't interact with nearly as many people in Admin as Richt, Manny, or even Golden did. There's pros and cons to that, but that's one difference now.
 
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