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n0rcalcane said:
I'm not the closest to the program, but I will say that since the staff got here it seems like they expected a *certain* conference would be our new home. Don't know how the ND situation changes that, and maybe we should have been more ballsy as a result, but I will say that conference was not the ACC.
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I hope you’re right but hope seems to be all we’ve got these days
 
25+ years of inept administration is why we are in the position. Athletic department has not had a forward looking leader since Sam J. I don't have confidence in Rad. I was encouraged when he was hired. But his baseball hire and apparent complacency with realignment are very discouraging.
 
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FL Cane said:
Unfortunately, 90% of this info in this thread is a whole lot of nothing, minus the few people that do have some info and insight that have shared their thoughts since day 1. Imho, there's five takeaways here that, with limited information or observation, we can make.

  1. Depending on the situation, Miami seems to be the 2nd to 4th team that the Big 10 hopes to add in a future expansion. Where we fall on the pecking order depends on which variables are thought to be the most important for the conference (Fox view of ratings/brand, ND wanting a spot, perception of us by Big 10 presidents, etc.). Miami may not be an immediate expansion member, but may receive it's invite prior to the next Big 10 contract, which means anytime in the next 6 years.

  2. There doesn't seem to be a path for Miami in the SEC. There hasn't been any expressed interest of whispers of any momentum there. I can speak to this a bit, as I do have a friend with SEC contacts, and they have repeatedly said that SEC schools do not want Miami in the conference primarily for recruiting reasons. Big "but" here, the SEC seems to be far more locked down on leaks and info than the Big. Nobody in the world had any idea that Texas and OU were going to the SEC, until the near moment it was announced.

  3. There's been a lot of posts and talk about Genetics. My take on him is that he's a guy with some pretty good sources plugged into Big 10 politics and current events. However, I do think (for purposes of content and engagement) that he stretches his info and extrapolates it beyond a reasonable measure. As his account has become more prominent, the extrapolation has become more pronounced. I also think other school's insiders use him to launder their talking points. The chief example of this is when he made that post about Miami athletics and financials. I know for a fact that 95% of the info in that post was blatantly false, and that a good amount of it read like fan fiction from Warchant.

  4. Miami generally understands that staying in the ACC would be a death sentence for the FB program. Miami Athletics is working in a much more quiet manner than its other ACC competitors in figuring out its next steps. Rudy Fernandez, Dan R., key members of the BOT, and big $$$ donors are leading the way here. This is not a situation where Miami is sleeping at the wheel. Miami knows that it has to find a landing spot, the Big 10 being the most likely destination. However, this leads into the next point...

  5. Oregon and Washington's move to the Big really really screwed a quicker expansion timeline for us. Also, the GOR was always an obstacle that we would need to overcome.

Imho, based on the very limited information we seem to have, I think the Big takes 4 teams in its next expansion, with Miami being one of those teams. The process could be expedited by a big turnaround by us this year. If we make the playoff (not saying we will), it would give us a lot of leverage and reset some expectations.
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I agree with you. You have succinctly summarized the good info from this thread. I believe that we are watching this FSU vs ACC battle closely and will follow them out the door once the price tag is known (which will be at a reduced rate.) It seems to me, based on what I have read, that the ACC is merely trying to stretch this case out to milk as much $$ as they can before the end that they KNOW is on the horizon.
 
Angry Ibis said:
This may be the most cut and pastable post CIS has ever seen..

I’ve been reading through _____ posts. So far, I don’t think anything he has predicted has come true. Also, based on the way he interacts with others , the guy is an arrogant, pompous ***. He may have some info, but he’s got a punchable personality.

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You’re welcome. Go ahead and use it. Just for you, no royalty payments required.
 
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FL Cane said:
4. Miami generally understands that staying in the ACC would be a death sentence for the FB program. Miami Athletics is working in a much more quiet manner than its other ACC competitors in figuring out its next steps. Rudy Fernandez, Dan R., key members of the BOT, and big $$$ donors are leading the way here. This is not a situation where Miami is sleeping at the wheel. Miami knows that it has to find a landing spot, the Big 10 being the most likely destination. However, this leads into the next point...
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A special thanks for this particular tidbit of info here
 
Badbart43 said:
I agree with you. You have succinctly summarized the good info from this thread. I believe that we are watching this FSU vs ACC battle closely and will follow them out the door once the price tag is known (which will be at a reduced rate.) It seems to me, based on what I have read, that the ACC is merely trying to stretch this case out to milk as much $$ as they can before the end that they KNOW is on the horizon.
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Interesting take and LeedsCane agreed.........hmmmmmmmmm
 
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Ispyin said:
They didn’t have the votes before it either
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Yes I do get that, however, without adding them it would have been easier to get the votes to disband as soon as FSU wins the case when other programs jump onboard to protect their future. After the ACC disbands even the Big 12 is a better option than the ACC for future TV contract $. The writing would be on the wall and getting enough votes would be easier by then.
 
5NC4 said:
With that being said, it would have been easier to disband the ACC without adding them
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They are not voting members until June 2024 ... so if there is a united effort and 8 teams have homes ... the ACC can be dissolved before they join.
 
FL Cane said:
Miami generally understands that staying in the ACC would be a death sentence for the FB program. Miami Athletics is working in a much more quiet manner than its other ACC competitors in figuring out its next steps. Rudy Fernandez, Dan R., key members of the BOT, and big $$$ donors are leading the way here. This is not a situation where Miami is sleeping at the wheel. Miami knows that it has to find a landing spot, the Big 10 being the most likely destination. However, this leads into the next point...
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Thank you for the informative post, especially the above point. I loved reading this.
 
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Rickd said:
They are not voting members until June 2024 ... so if there is a united effort and 8 teams have homes ... the ACC can be dissolved before they join.
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Well alrighty then. That still may be too soon though.
 
Badbart43 said:
I agree with you. You have succinctly summarized the good info from this thread. I believe that we are watching this FSU vs ACC battle closely and will follow them out the door once the price tag is known (which will be at a reduced rate.) It seems to me, based on what I have read, that the ACC is merely trying to stretch this case out to milk as much $$ as they can before the end that they KNOW is on the horizon.
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I think there is a win-win possibility where the ACC could actually end up reversing the espn buttf#cking and be in charge of doling out butt punishment to espn. It all depends on the acc adding two more teams. I believe the acc - espn tv deal remains in effect as long as the number of teams in the conference does not drop under 15. If it drops under 15, espn has the right to renegotiate the deal. When espn initially valued the deal, they obviously wanted the FSU, UM, UNC, and Clemson markets but they didn't put individual values on the each program in the contract (they couldnt because the GOR meant the ACC represented all teams in the deal, not individual teams). So the deal is contigent on the total number of teams in the acc (15), not specific teams being in the acc. Currently there are 17 teams. That means only two can leave and still keep the deal intact.

If the acc adds two more teams, then the acc could let FSU, UM, Clemson, and UNC leave to the P2 and keep the current deal. What looks like a bad deal for the big market acc teams is a pretty good deal for the acc teams like BC, Duke, Syracuse, etc. because it's unlikely that they'd get picked up by the P2 and wouldn't get as much money if they had to join a G5 or renegotiate with espn without the top football schools. So acc just needs to find 2 more teams and I believe the acc could let 4 teams go without paying the 500 million the acc says it will lose without the 4 football schools.

Does espn pick up the option in 2027 without them? Maybe, but if they don't, the majority of the remaining schools will likely vote to dissolve the conference and free up the teams to join another conference or merge with the Big12/Pac12. I think the latter is plausible as it would be a coast to coast megaconference that would still have some football legitimacy.
 
FL Cane said:
Unfortunately, 90% of this info in this thread is a whole lot of nothing, minus the few people that do have some info and insight that have shared their thoughts since day 1. Imho, there's five takeaways here that, with limited information or observation, we can make.

  1. Depending on the situation, Miami seems to be the 2nd to 4th team that the Big 10 hopes to add in a future expansion. Where we fall on the pecking order depends on which variables are thought to be the most important for the conference (Fox view of ratings/brand, ND wanting a spot, perception of us by Big 10 presidents, etc.). Miami may not be an immediate expansion member, but may receive it's invite prior to the next Big 10 contract, which means anytime in the next 6 years.

  2. There doesn't seem to be a path for Miami in the SEC. There hasn't been any expressed interest of whispers of any momentum there. I can speak to this a bit, as I do have a friend with SEC contacts, and they have repeatedly said that SEC schools do not want Miami in the conference primarily for recruiting reasons. Big "but" here, the SEC seems to be far more locked down on leaks and info than the Big. Nobody in the world had any idea that Texas and OU were going to the SEC, until the near moment it was announced.

  3. There's been a lot of posts and talk about Genetics. My take on him is that he's a guy with some pretty good sources plugged into Big 10 politics and current events. However, I do think (for purposes of content and engagement) that he stretches his info and extrapolates it beyond a reasonable measure. As his account has become more prominent, the extrapolation has become more pronounced. I also think other school's insiders use him to launder their talking points. The chief example of this is when he made that post about Miami athletics and financials. I know for a fact that 95% of the info in that post was blatantly false, and that a good amount of it read like fan fiction from Warchant.

  4. Miami generally understands that staying in the ACC would be a death sentence for the FB program. Miami Athletics is working in a much more quiet manner than its other ACC competitors in figuring out its next steps. Rudy Fernandez, Dan R., key members of the BOT, and big $$$ donors are leading the way here. This is not a situation where Miami is sleeping at the wheel. Miami knows that it has to find a landing spot, the Big 10 being the most likely destination. However, this leads into the next point...

  5. Oregon and Washington's move to the Big really really screwed a quicker expansion timeline for us. Also, the GOR was always an obstacle that we would need to overcome.

Imho, based on the very limited information we seem to have, I think the Big takes 4 teams in its next expansion, with Miami being one of those teams. The process could be expedited by a big turnaround by us this year. If we make the playoff (not saying we will), it would give us a lot of leverage and reset some expectations.
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Be careful. Telling people facts here or how an unexpected development like Oregon/Washington can change things even if just timing is likely to get you all sort of ****** hate. Stay strong.
 
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