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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

In what world would we get left out? I’m no lawyer or realignment expert but for the last 5 years this city has seen more of an influx in every single sector possible than any other place in the world, numerous events held down here….combine that with our commitment to NIL and sports I find it hard to believe we are left out. When good (I know it’s been rare lately) we are a huge TV draw too. The $ being thrown around down here is crazy.
 
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Rickd said:
As little as 9 months ago all of the scuttlebutt was "FSU & Miami" to the B10
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Scuttlebutt equals what exactly?

Pete Thamel from ESPN has said the SEC will play defense if necessary ... and listed four ACC schools (UNC, UVA, FSU and Clemson) as being in the SEC's crosshairs.

Sankey himself has stated publicly that he has his eyes open if a worthwhile expansion opportunity presents itself.

That isn't scuttbutt.

That ESPN's top College Football insider and the SEC commissioner talking
 
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TheOGCane said:
www.espn.com

Yormark: Big 12 'relevant,' to share record $470M

Big 12 schools will share in a record $470 million of revenue distribution, the conference announced Friday when wrapping up its first spring meetings as a 14-team league and before growing by two more teams.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Some nice COIN in B12
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1/2 of what is distributed per school in the B10 and SEC. By 2030 the gap will be $60M per year.
 
Hold My Beer said:
Scuttlebutt equals what exactly?

Pete Thamel from ESPN has said the SEC will play defense if necessary ... and listed four ACC schools (UNC, UVA, FSU and Clemson) as being in the SEC's crosshairs.

Sankey himself has stated publicly that he has his eyes open if a worthwhile expansion opportunity presents itself.

That isn't scuttbutt.

That ESPN's top College Football insider and the SEC commissioner talking
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"Will play defense if necessary" ... as in ... the B10 is out front more aggressively, with a plan to develop a "southern tier" by grabbing key programs from the ACC, and the SEC "target list" is a carbon copy of the B10 priority list. So, the SEC, if forced to do it, will try and keep FSU / Clemson / UNC in their portfolio. So you are saying yourself the SEC is reactive, not proactive, and that just might not get the job done. That position is NOT new news. It has been stated ever since the inception of "realignment" discussions began.

The very first person that uttered the words "the B10 might try and grab FSU & Clemson" received the response "yeah, but don't you think that Sankey and the SEC will respond with an offer to try and keep them in the ESPN portfolio?". Thamels' comments are "scuttlebutt" and no more until there is actually a decision made and an announcement by FSU. The B10 commissioner has been outspoken as well.

Another aspect that "clouds" the decision making optics is the fact that the B10 and SEC are currently working together more than they have in their history, so nobody knows what quid pro quo concessions have been made by either party in the combined talks regarding CFP broadcast rights and realignment structure. As far as the SEC's "defensive measures" that could end up being something as simple as the SEC taking UNC / VT / NCSt after the B10 grabs FSU & Clemson. Nobody in this 967 page thread is doing more than speculating and the only definitive comments that have been made so far are the ones made by FSU & Clemson attorneys ... we want out ... and we're all guessing where they might end up.
 
It's quite simple to see what's happening. Three conferences have equal shares, but there are 20 SEC schools(they probably wanna keep it 18 as they'd be more per team and add UNC and UVA), 20 Big Ten schools(FSU and Clemson but they Big 10/ fox are telling the SEC/ESPN no you have to be at 20 and take Miami and NC State), and 24 Big 12 schools. Brings us to 64 plus ND and maybe a few inpendents that can fund their own TV money deals.


Will get to 16 team playoff eventually and I also believe that will have an nit consolation playoff and the lower tier bowls will be apart of hosting those games. College football will be on every other night in December.
 
Hold My Beer said:
Scuttlebutt equals what exactly?

Pete Thamel from ESPN has said the SEC will play defense if necessary ... and listed four ACC schools (UNC, UVA, FSU and Clemson) as being in the SEC's crosshairs.

Sankey himself has stated publicly that he has his eyes open if a worthwhile expansion opportunity presents itself.

That isn't scuttbutt.

That ESPN's top College Football insider and the SEC commissioner talking
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One very interesting facet of the "comparative realignment goals" of the Big 10 and SEC is to take a look at the conference commissioner bios of the two:

SEC
Sankey started as an intramural sports director at Utica College, and in 1992 joined the office of the SEC working in compliance. He has basically been a lifelong SEC employee, who rose through the ranks and is now the commissioner. Well respected all around.

BIG 10.
Tony Petitti, Harvard Law grad, has had a pretty unique career in the sports media industry:

-ABC Sports ... 8 years in a variety of roles including VP of programming.
-CBS Sports ... (10 years) joined after his 8 years at ABC sports as VP of programming and ended up EVP of CBS sports
in charge of the entire sports network.
-MLB. (12 years). Petite joined MLB in 2008 to CREATE, LAUNCH, AND OVERSEE PROGRAMMING FOR THE MLB NETWORK.

If I had to choose a commissioner that might be more of a visionary on what a conference COULD BECOME, and had the actual experience in creating and managing an expansion BASED ON OPTIMIZING TV PROGRAMMING AND MAJOR BIG TIME MATCHUPS ... there is no contest ... Tony Petitti, with 30 years in the highest level of sports media pioneering work would be the guy to keep an eye on.
 
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Antcane said:
It's quite simple to see what's happening. Three conferences have equal shares, but there are 20 SEC schools(they probably wanna keep it 18 as they'd be more per team and add UNC and UVA), 20 Big Ten schools(FSU and Clemson but they Big 10/ fox are telling the SEC/ESPN no you have to be at 20 and take Miami and NC State), and 24 Big 12 schools. Brings us to 64 plus ND and maybe a few inpendents that can fund their own TV money deals.


Will get to 16 team playoff eventually and I also believe that will have an nit consolation playoff and the lower tier bowls will be apart of hosting those games. College football will be on every other night in December.
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Three conferences will NOT have equal shares ... that has already been established when the P2 made the CFP payout % for each conference with the SEC and Big10 getting double the amount of the ACC and the Big 12 getting less. Once the ACC no longer has FSU / Clemson their payout will decrease more. If there IS a breakaway ... it will be the P2 adding 4-6 schools from the remaining ACC / B12 and forming an NFL lite with two conferences, 20-24 or 26 each. Everybody else will be relegated to G5 and most likely have their own championship. This might be 10 years down the road. In the meantime there will most likely be a P2 with gradually expanding B10 / SEC and a variety of defensive maneuvers by the ACC / B12 in an attempt to maintain relevance.
 
There's definitely a lot going on between the networks, conferences, and the president. I'm sure someone with common sense has suggested conferences of 24 teams, and I think the SEC/ESPN is the one putting up the fight. CBS, NBC, FOX, and the other two conferences are willing, but that means ESPN loses the leftover ACC inventory to be split up among the agreement with the B12/FOX. There's a reason they played nice with the CFP and will sublet games. College sports are the only thing that makes ESPN any money; it carries that network. They are probably drawing a line, and that's why you're seeing FSU and Clemson sue their way out to the Big 10. The other ACC schools believe they will add B12 leftovers or are being told they'll be coming to the SEC. UNC is one of those teams, and that's why you see NC legislation taking action because UVA is the other team, not NC State.

I also believe the B10 would take Miami until Their next deal is for partial shares. Either way, Miami is not getting "left out." Will they receive less money? Maybe, but it will not be an insurmountable amount. They will probably still have enough to compete, as they always have. Just look at all the sports and their success, and you'll see UM coaching legends over the decades in various sports. We get good athletes, but not at the rate that big schools get them. That's why, if we are going to be competitive, we have to rely on player development and coaching to fill the small talent gap.
Rickd said:
Three conferences will NOT have equal shares ... that has already been established when the P2 made the CFP payout % for each conference with the SEC and Big10 getting double the amount of the ACC and the Big 12 getting less. Once the ACC no longer has FSU / Clemson their payout will decrease more. If there IS a breakaway ... it will be the P2 adding 4-6 schools from the remaining ACC / B12 and forming an NFL lite with two conferences, 20-24 or 26 each. Everybody else will be relegated to G5 and most likely have their own championship. This might be 10 years down the road. In the meantime there will most likely be a P2 with gradually expanding B10 / SEC and a variety of defensive maneuvers by the ACC / B12 in an attempt to maintain relevance.
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I'm miss spoke will be getting equal share.
 
Rickd said:
One very interesting facet of the "comparative realignment goals" of the Big 10 and SEC is to take a look at the conference commissioner bios of the two:

SEC
Sankey started as an intramural sports director at Utica College, and in 1992 joined the office of the SEC working in compliance. He has basically been a lifelong SEC employee, who rose through the ranks and is now the commissioner. Well respected all around.

BIG 10.
Tony Petitti, Harvard Law grad, has had a pretty unique career in the sports media industry:

-ABC Sports ... 8 years in a variety of roles including VP of programming.
-CBS Sports ... (10 years) joined after his 8 years at ABC sports as VP of programming and ended up EVP of CBS sports
in charge of the entire sports network.
-MLB. (12 years). Petite joined MLB in 2008 to CREATE, LAUNCH, AND OVERSEE PROGRAMMING FOR THE MLB NETWORK.

If I had to choose a commissioner that might be more of a visionary on what a conference COULD BECOME, and had the actual experience in creating and managing an expansion BASED ON OPTIMIZING TV PROGRAMMING AND MAJOR BIG TIME MATCHUPS ... there is no contest ... Tony Petitti, with 30 years in the highest level of sports media pioneering work would be the guy to keep an eye on.
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both are impressive in my opinion for different reasons. Interestingly neither are former athletic directors.
 
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AuoraCane said:
both are impressive in my opinion for different reasons. Interestingly neither are former athletic directors.
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Well the comment has been made that realignment is all about optimizing media broadcast slots and programming big game matchups. That is what Petitti has done for his entire career.
 
Miami will not only get an equal share from B1G, but those cuck ******* in Rosemont are going to pay our Hurricanes a premium to join.

#YouCanBelieveThat

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