Chris Wheatley-Humphrey

[lauderdaleballer]

Something is off then…his tape, he shows blazing speed against legit comp, yet sites keep knocking it off outdated metrics?? Idk. Staff evaluated in person and loved him. Who knows…

South Broward competition wasn’t that good. It still doesn’t negate that the kid can play though. He probably runs a 4.7 verified time but plays faster. In hs a 4.5+ he would be blazing. Y’all don’t get caught up on the 4.7

 

[Caned Peach]

NO

Thank you. Maybe helps explain some.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Hes not as herky jerky as Booker. But if u see Booker above CWH has alot of that game n burst

yooooooooooooo lol

First run of book after watching CWH film I was like sh hes spot on lol. One of the best comparisons I have seen on here.

 

[skyman]

What I wanna know is ..... When the fvck did David Lake's word hold so much weight?

I think its the fact 99% of times these guys takes are always positive and if they feel a certain way they actually dont say anything at all.. So when he spoke in that manner it was kinda polarizing, thats when I started to look at it a lil more. But Im not gonna argue, just look at schedule and circle a game to check out myself..

 

[skyman]

I never said he was slow, but there’s varying degrees of speed & I’m not just trusting that he’s this secret 10.5/4.4 runner that nobody but us knows about.

He’ll have his chance to show what he is once he gets on campus & continues to develop, but I’m not in the every “under the radar Diamond in the ruff!” prospect is an automatic Homerun just because they say he is.

Lol, I will never forget this board "scouting" Yearby and Dalvin from their couch and majority saying Yearby was better, lol.. That tells you all you need to know with the homer takes and how the orange and green shades tint soo dark.. Those post are still on here too.. Straight comedy..

 

[Zbrod95]

He’s Duece Vaughn. Duece ran a 4.44.

There‘s track fast then there’s football fast. Even after all of our track fast football players have been slow y‘all still think the 2 are the same thing.

 

[gogeta4]

Who is in their district now?

Mcarthur (ok), Hollywood Hills (terrible), Dr Krop (perrenially sorry), I dont remember if Miramar still is (good program) but they play them every year

Last year they played Doral Academy (good) Piper (sorry) Hallandale (sorry) West Broward (sorry, has a big time young wr though) Stoneman Douglas (perennial sorry).

They got blew out by anyone with a pulse.

He put up numbers though.

 

[DTP]

He didn’t play at Dillard. He played for South Broward. Outside of a handful of teams there are a lot of weak teams in Broward County because of so many transfers and bad coaching. That being said, you can’t get caught up in the stats. Most coaches can care less about that. The kid is athletic and can ball. A college weight program will only make him more dynamic.

Not only that, there’s no such thing as a “typical South Florida schedule”. There are weak districts in Dade and Broward. Watch the first round of playoff games and see which teams lose 45-0. Those teams won their districts. Because of school choice and private schools, there’s a handful of really great teams in either county. And there’s a lot of bad teams. The talent isn’t spread equally. There’s probably (definitely) more FBS players at St. Thomas then there are in South Broward’s entire district.

Once again, this kid is a RB2 take for us. Maybe he never cracks the rotation. Maybe he becomes a kick returner, maybe he plays cornerback. He’s a valid take regardless of what David Lake says. I also find it odd that he specifically called out Wheatley-Humphrey when there are at least three or four committed kids who are HUGE reaches and borderline P5 players.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Not only that, there’s no such thing as a “typical South Florida schedule”. There are weak districts in Dade and Broward. Watch the first round of playoff games and see which teams lose 45-0. Those teams won their districts. Because of school choice and private schools, there’s a handful of really great teams in either county. And there’s a lot of bad teams. The talent isn’t spread equally. There’s probably (definitely) more FBS players at St. Thomas then there are in South Broward’s entire district.

Once again, this kid is a RB2 take for us. Maybe he never cracks the rotation. Maybe he becomes a kick returner, maybe he plays cornerback. He’s a valid take regardless of what David Lake says. I also find it odd that he specifically called out Wheatley-Humphrey when there are at least three or four committed kids who are HUGE reaches and borderline P5 players.

I agree. The talent isn’t spread out across the counties like it used to be. I went to south plantation and during my last two years we had like 8-10 fbs signees. Around 2013 the coach had like 4-6 power 5 signees alone. Unfortunately that’s not the case anymore. I remember Piper having All American recruits.

Back to CWH, he’s a valid take as you stated. He’s a good a player but some of our fans need to chill with the unrealistic expectations. And the same for Lake, like why did he point out CWH?

 

[TC@ne]

If CWH runs worse than a 4.55 at next verified testing I will release never before seen footage of Brock eating a medium rare steak.

 

[bshaw28]

The Corn comparison is a good one. CWH played corner at camp and looked great.

I think he will be an offensive weapon that gets the ball in space. Rooster type, more lateral quickness and fluidity.

Rooster had similar size and speed and was able to produce seven 40+ yard plays in the ACC. His offseasons held him back, along with some hip stiffness. CWH is better at making defenders miss without losing speed.

CWH is a legit playmaker. I love the take and I'm of the opinion we should just get him on campus and figure it out form there.

Rooster is a good example of why verifying measurables is important. 247 had Knighton as 5-9 194 which is very different from the 5-10 178 Rivals had him as (and was more accurate). Now as a Senior he's listed at 5-10 180.

With Knighton - that physicality he ran with in HS which seemed like a positive ended up being a negative at the college level. His style for his size just didn't translate. He still created big plays, but mostly in the passing game. Rooster's runs in-between his big plays weren't very effective. But I agree with you CWH looks more elusive so that's a good thing.

I'm excited to see if Dawson can use guys like CJ & CWH as "all over the field" types. But for me, when I think of those types I think Percy Harvin, Tavon Austin, Curtis Samuel, etc. - and for those guys WR was their primary position. I think it's harder to make it happen when RB is the primary position. It'll be fun to see how it all plays out.

 

[bshaw28]

Oh lord, here we go again with the misleading bshaw statistics.

The kid has a year to gain weight before he even enrolls, then he can add size once he gets to UM. People at that age grow at different rates, we are not trying to put a Hurricane uniform on the kid by October 21st.

You keep talking about his eventual weight (which we don't know) while ignoring his actual current weight (which we do know)

247 has 57 RB's in the 2024 class that are 6-0 & the only one under 180 lbs is CWH at 175.

CWH's starting point is back of the pack. To get to 190, 200, 210 - whatever you choose, CWH will have to put on more weight than any other RB at his height.

Part of the reason why when people ask "Why isn't he rated higher" is because he's ranked as a RB but he's built like a CB.

Part of the reason why coaches have wanted to see him at CB at summer camps is because he's built more like a CB than a RB.

This isn't to say he can't play RB - It's just pointing out he has a body type that is very rare at RB.

It isn't misleading to point out that every position has certain body types - and CWH simply doesn't have a RB body type right now. But you're 100% correct that as he puts on weight that can potentially change. I wouldn't rule that out.

 

[skyman]

I'm excited to see if Dawson can use guys like CJ & CWH as "all over the field" types. But for me, when I think of those types I think Percy Harvin, Tavon Austin, Curtis Samuel, etc. - and for those guys WR was their primary position. I think it's harder to make it happen when RB is the primary position. It'll be fun to see how it all plays out.

Interesting because in an interview, CJ was asked to describe his game and the name he used wasnt the names u listed but in similar playmaking versatile role, Deebo Samuels. Also primary position WR. CJ also played majority WR/DB in optimist and started playing RB in high school. Will be interesting to see how he gets on field as we have a glut of talented slot type guys and rb but none have his explosive ability. Should be a good problem to have for a good OC.

Like I have said in past, gives black mamba vibes. Remember he wasnt a starter at any position but was a TD waiting to happen

Thomas was featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated on September 24, 2012. The headline inside read: "Can't Touch DAT: He's not a RB, a receiver or even a starter, UO's DAT is simply a touchdown waiting to happen."[17]

 

[bshaw28]

Interesting because in an interview, CJ was asked to describe his game and the name he used wasnt the names u listed but in similar playmaking versatile role, Deebo Samuels. Also primary position WR. CJ also played majority WR/DB in optimist and started playing RB in high school. Will be interesting to see how he gets on field as we have a glut of talented slot type guys and rb but none have his explosive ability. Should be a good problem to have for a good OC.

Like I have said in past, gives black mamba vibes. Remember he wasnt a starter at any position but was a TD waiting to happen

100%. De'Anthony Thomas was one of the ultimate "all over the field" college players. Even if CJ was 75% of Thomas he'd be a monster.

CJ's speed is just special. In my head he's a legit 4.3 guy. I don't think he's a natural RB, but I also don't care. I can't wait to see what he does with the ball in his hands.

Chip Kelly was a master at scheming for fast little guys like LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner, and De'Anthomy Thomas - but Kelly was universally thought of as an offensive genius at that time. I hope Dawson has that creativity - but I know it very hard to do, and it's a really high standard to hold him to. Saying "we need to get (insert player) in space" is so much easier said than done.

 

[bobbydigius]

100%. De'Anthony Thomas was one of the ultimate "all over the field" college players. Even if CJ was 75% of Thomas he's be a monster.

CJ's speed is just special. In my head he's a legit 4.3 guy. I don't think he's a natural RB, but I also don't care. I can't wait to see what he does with the ball in his hands.

Chip Kelly was a master at scheming for fast little guys like LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner, and De'Anthomy Thomas - but Kelly was universally thought of as an offensive genius at that time. I hope Dawson has that creativity - but I know it very hard to do, and it's a really high standard to hold him to. Saying "we need to get (insert player) in space" is so much easier said than done.

It’s way too high of a standard to hold Dawson to.

 

[JHallCanes]

Lol, I will never forget this board "scouting" Yearby and Dalvin from their couch and majority saying Yearby was better, lol.. That tells you all you need to know with the homer takes and how the orange and green shades tint soo dark.. Those post are still on here too.. Straight comedy..

People saying Yearby was better were injecting straight IVs of Copium into their veins

 

[nycane]

I’m a big believer in verified testing, but times can be deceptive early in a player’s career. Redwine ran 4.8 as a HS underclassman and hit a 4.4 laser at the NFL Combine.

The size is a real knock. The speed isn’t. This kid is extremely dynamic. Our coaches were blown away by his athleticism at camp.

he might get a look at db.

 

[skyman]

100%. De'Anthony Thomas was one of the ultimate "all over the field" college players. Even if CJ was 75% of Thomas he'd be a monster.

CJ's speed is just special. In my head he's a legit 4.3 guy. I don't think he's a natural RB, but I also don't care. I can't wait to see what he does with the ball in his hands.

Chip Kelly was a master at scheming for fast little guys like LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner, and De'Anthomy Thomas - but Kelly was universally thought of as an offensive genius at that time. I hope Dawson has that creativity - but I know it very hard to do, and it's a really high standard to hold him to. Saying "we need to get (insert player) in space" is so much easier said than done.

Agreed with all of the above. That was something you look at the scheme versatility Chip had and its tough because the deception built in to the UO blur offense was because of the triple option DNA, that type of stuff allows chip to put in a 170 pound player as dive player and they go untouched 90 yards in rose bowl.. At the time teams couldnt even line up correctly sometimes against those guys.. lol..

 

[skeeter]

If you think that film says slow or average you need not evaluate a recruit. He’s dusting people with angles.

This^^^…No one touches him…Yes someone would be "near him" if he was playing Central, STA, etc and 1 or 2 of those long runs would not end in TD, would he get ihit n the backfield by a real defensive line like Chris Johnson was repeatedly and that npc may be closer to 10 than 15 or whatever it is. …Sure. But none of that is pertinent here. He would still be the fastest RB in Sofl

He is flying on that tape…And you take that all day even if he ends up at WR or CB. But just by looking at him, he's a big kid that can fill out if he takes diet and the weight room seriously.

 

[JgDaCane]

100%. De'Anthony Thomas was one of the ultimate "all over the field" college players. Even if CJ was 75% of Thomas he'd be a monster.

CJ's speed is just special. In my head he's a legit 4.3 guy. I don't think he's a natural RB, but I also don't care. I can't wait to see what he does with the ball in his hands.

Chip Kelly was a master at scheming for fast little guys like LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner, and De'Anthomy Thomas - but Kelly was universally thought of as an offensive genius at that time. I hope Dawson has that creativity - but I know it very hard to do, and it's a really high standard to hold him to. Saying "we need to get (insert player) in space" is so much easier said than done.

I've seen some plays Dawson runs that he just sends the back to the flat & thows him the ball. 1 vs 1 if the WR's block well. It's really simple. Get your fast guys the ball. We've made it rocket science here the last 20 years.