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Canes to B1G?

OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Fair enough. I’m sure he knows some people. I’m sure he knows a lot of people. I just don’t think he knows “those“ people.,
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I agree with your point. Mike seems like a good dude and doesn’t seek attention like this so I find it interesting.

Does anyone know where he said this rumor?
 
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orange&green84 said:
The SEC side-stepped A&M so they could capture the midwest - Texas and OU. The SEC's not going to do that with us. We don't have a significant TV advantage compared to Texas and OU. Our best bet would be to go to the Big 10. They have a solid cache of good teams on Ohio State, PSU, and Wiscy. Renewing a rivalry with Nebraska which would essentially replace FSU (if they moved to the SEC, they're not playing us again).
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Imagine you’re running ESPN. Miami os a valuable brand. Maybe not as valuable as Texas, but **** valuable all the same. Right now, you have Miami.

If Miami goes to the Big 10, you lose Miami. How is that good for you?

What you want is to keep your most valuable brands, and you want to milk as much out of them as possible. You want Miami playing FSU and Florida and whatever marquee matchups you can create because that means eyeballs and money.

SEC would take us because ESPN writes the checks and they carry a **** big stick. IMO.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Imagine you’re running ESPN. Miami os a valuable brand. Maybe not as valuable as Texas, but **** valuable all the same. Right now, you have Miami.

If Miami goes to the Big 10, you lose Miami. How is that good for you?

What you want is to keep your most valuable brands, and you want to milk as much out of them as possible. You want Miami playing FSU and Florida and whatever marquee matchups you can create because that means eyeballs and money.

SEC would take us because ESPN writes the checks and they carry a **** big stick. IMO.
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You mean the same ESPN whose own commentators trash us whenever they can? That ESPN?
 
My guess was that this was released into the news as a result of the FSU+Clemson to SEC news and we don't want to be left holding the bag
 
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10cane said:
If we’re talking about just winning games it don’t make sense, we’re not there yet. But to have a legitimate football program moving forward, especially if Clemson FSU leave and notre dame don’t join, it’d be crazy for us not to leave to Big10.

cfb bout to become the AFC and NFC. I’m not a fan of it but it’s what it’s heading towards
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My guy, my guy; U know ur my guy. I’m going to break this down as to why I’m not in favor. It’s going to be a little long, but oh well. Lol.

I think in today’s society w/ social media and information overload, it causes so much panic on so many levels.

Conference expansion has happened often. The difference today vs yesterday is that everything is hyper sensitive & hyper reactive b/c it’s over sensationalized. Imo, this is why so many “leaders” are inept to lead b/c instead thinking things through, thoroughly, they panic, & it becomes a matter of being reactive vs. proactive.

Now, let’s go back to why we were approached to join the ACC; it was b/c the ACC needed another big name to pair w/ the only CFB school in conference worth a **** in FSU. (Yes, many moons ago, Clemson was a dumpster fire & an easy W). They envisioned us being the USC v. UCLA, the Bama vs Auburn, or the OSU vs Michigan of the ACC w/ our yearly rivalry w/ FSU. Furthermore, the ACC envisioned a 2 for 1; not only were we brought in to bring clout to the conference, but ABC would get an opportunity to feature both a highly touted in-season match up, and a revenge game of the ACCCG between two bitter rivals for all the marbles. That’s big bank! Unfortunately…Well, needless to say, that dream was made….anyways. Lol

The point is, the ACC approached us b/c they needed us. Guess what? If FSU & Clemson leaves, they’ll REALLY need us. They’ll most likely add top tier G5 teams (and don’t forget, teams like TCU, UL, Utah were once upon a time G5 teams). But since they need us from a CFB standpoint, just like the Big East needed us from CFB standpoint, this is something we “should” take advantage. It could easily be an easier path to the CFP, than joining a conference that’s not a fit, AT ALL.

But here’s the biggest issue; our leadership. I don’t trust it. Upfront, guaranteed money seems to be the biggest driving force in decision making w/o thinking of unintended consequences. I can’t imagine how much money this program has bled from failed regimes, ticket sales, merchandise sales, and bowl revenue b/c of utter lack of guidance.

A leader would have a proactive approach, w/ a plan B & C that’s been throughly vetted, just in case. We’ve been more reactive from a lot of decisions. ****, it took two coaches (Golden & Richt) to complain about having certain amenities like a f’ing training table, an updated locker room, and an IPF, not the AD, but coaches. Low & behold, miraculously it all came to fruition. Blake doesn’t, & has never struck me as a leader & Frenk is, well….anyways.

Being in this precarious situation w/ these two at the helm has me spooked, like for real spooked. There’s a real opportunity here that can be exploited. Bruh, we can easily move to the head of the table & get w/ other ACC teams amidst these rumors & come together either w/ a stay plan, or exit plan.

Just like I didn’t like the move to the ACC b/c it was an “All Carolina Conference”, I’m not in favor of this hyper reactive ploy to move to the B1G. That would be an even bigger death trap. If the SEC is the good old boys club, the B1G is not far behind. They’ll accept ND b/c ND has that good Ole boys mantra, but we’ll be the red headed step child w/ freckles.
 
hottest takes in this thread....FSU alone can't even afford to leave the ACC without bankrupting that whole scene.
ACC has to fold for ANYYYYY of this to happen...so start there.
 
TimeBum said:
Well, the closest Miami has been to being nationally relevant again was in 2017 when basically the entire starting roster was composed of Al Golden recruits, whom he had recruited trying to build a big 10 team. One opponent we played that closely resembled a big 10 team was Notre Dame, and we annihilated them.
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My brotha, U’re confusing Al Golden’s coaching & S&C techniques w/ the type of players he recruited here.

The players he recruited was fine, the scheme & that pizza/cheeseburger diet was not; hence he was unbelievably unsuccessful here. Once the players got better coaching & even semi better conditioning, we took off immediately. I always said under Golden, the problem wasn’t the players, it was his staph, his skemisms, and that pizza diet. But dude could recruit.

Richt, on the other hand, had good classes on paper, but u can’t keep running 3 star QBs w/ ur inept, unqualified son as the coach, and ur O-playbook w/ hella dust & microorganisms as the engine. We caught lightning in the bottle w/ some miraculous, improbable wins, but once the slipper came off, we were exposed butt naked. The 2017 season is not & should not be used as an example of why we could fit in The B1G.
 
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More conferences tears….

So to conclude. Miami should go into the Miami conference because the ACC sucks, BIG and SEC are problematic and no other conference will exist….

Brilliant
 
KrazyCane said:
Imagine trying to recruit kids in the south to convince them to want to travel north to play BIG 10 schools every year??… We would be gifting our entire recruiting base to FSU Florida Clemson and the SEC. 🗑🗑🗑
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How do OSU get all those Florida kids to play for them every year?

Oh that's right, they sell them the idea that over a third of the NFL is based in cold weather cities - you have to get used to the cold eventually if you want to go pro.

The cold weather excuse just makes us look like a soft team.
 
In the end, if college football is going to go the way of Super Conferences, there’s only two conferences you can guarantee will be there for that: SEC and Big Ten.

Everybody wants to be in the SEC, but the name of the game is jumping on one of the two life boats when you can to make sure your future is secured.
 
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KrazyCane said:
Imagine trying to recruit kids in the south to convince them to want to travel north to play BIG 10 schools every year??… We would be gifting our entire recruiting base to FSU Florida Clemson and the SEC. 🗑🗑🗑
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Imagine trying to convince a kid to travel to play against Duke, Virginia, Ga Tech, and Pittsburg every year lol

you really think we couldn’t sell kids on playing at Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, Nebraska? **** we’re in recruiting battles with these teams more than any schools in the coastal now.
 
rustywalkedaway said:
The Big 10 will not take a school not accredited by the AAU. Miami is not so accredited. Also the Big 10 has never taken school that did not have a wrestling program. The Big 10 wants what it considers complimentary institutions.

The rules are changing, but I doubt they change that much.
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Wrestling program? We have The Greatest wrestler of all time The Rock!!
 
Zbrod95 said:
They can thumb their noses all they want. Us and ND are their only chance at developing a super conference to go up against the SEC and their decision makers know it. The big 10 would have all the vested interest in the world for us to join and be the 2001 Miami Hurricanes again. It makes them a **** ton of money. It makes OSU a **** ton of money. It makes PSU a **** ton of money. It potentially makes ND a **** ton of money if they join. That’s not including the rest of the conference either.

A deal with the Big 10 if we jump and use our current leverage will probably finally give the financial means to compete with the blue bloods as well.
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Certainly a possible scenario. Would definitely benefit us academically and financially but just how much leverage do we have? I still believe the logistics would be difficult at best.
 
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News Flash: Sports radio hosts do not break billion dollar conference realignment stories.

I don't even know what was said but I guarantee he didn't say he had a source or any of that. This is just someone trying to fill his hour block and create traffic to a show.

If and when this story does break it's going to be by someone who actually has something to lose if they are wrong. It def will not be a sports radio host.
 
Hurracanes said:
I agree with your point. Mike seems like a good dude and doesn’t seek attention like this so I find it interesting.

Does anyone know where he said this rumor?
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Big Suey: Hurrah episode. Just listened to it and basically he said someone from the school reached out to him about it since I guess he had mentioned it before on the show. Says if ND doesn't join the ACC then that would be the move to make. Whether it is true or not idk but he does say someone from the school reached out to him about it.
 
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