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Canes to B1G?

rustywalkedaway said:
Yes, I know what I wrote. That was the deal for admission. I did not say they became re-accredited, but maybe your post helps you feel important. If so, congratulations.
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Don't be a passive-aggressive whiner. This has nothing to do with me "feeling important". You made the post, now you are trying to claim that you didn't type the words that you typed, just because someone corrected you on your misinformation.

Take the L and walk away.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Don't be a passive-aggressive whiner. This has nothing to do with me "feeling important". You made the post, now you are trying to claim that you didn't type the words that you typed, just because someone corrected you on your misinformation.

Take the L and walk away.
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I don't do passive-aggressive. You are on quite the lecture role today. You did not correct anything, you just mis-interpreted. It would have been mis-information if I stated Nebraska had regained accreditation; I did not. I very simply stated that the agreement was their share was reduced until they got re-accredited.

Get over yourself.
 
rustywalkedaway said:
I don't do passive-aggressive. You are on quite the lecture role today. You did not correct anything, you just mis-interpreted. It would have been mis-information if I stated Nebraska had regained accreditation; I did not. I very simply stated that the agreement was their share was reduced until they got re-accredited.

Get over yourself.
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So your claim is that Nebraska will permanently get a reduced Big 10 share (since they are never going to move their med school "on campus" or abandon all their agri-research)?

Yeah, that's some DIFFERENT hilarious misinformation. I can assure you, Nebraska does not have an ongoing reduction of Big 10 share payout due to non-AAU membership.

Keep spinning those plates full of bullcrap...

Walk away, Rusty.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
So your claim is that Nebraska will permanently get a reduced Big 10 share (since they are never going to move their med school "on campus" or abandon all their agri-research)?

Yeah, that's some DIFFERENT hilarious misinformation. I can assure you, Nebraska does not have an ongoing reduction of Big 10 share payout due to non-AAU membership.

Keep spinning those plates full of bullcrap...

Walk away, Rusty.
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I did not claim that. I said that was the simplified version of the deal when Nebraska was in the admission procedure as the Big 10 knew it was going to lose accreditation. I knew it from inside knowledge at the time and it has become relatively common knowledge since.

Please share your sources of specific information. You know the ones that would "assure" us of your veracity. Otherwise this just continues your current stream of opinions masked as something more.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
"Chancellor Harvey Perlman said that the lack of an on-campus medical school (the Medical Center is a separate campus of the University of Nebraska system) and the AAU's disregarding of USDA-funded agricultural research in its metrics hurt the university's performance in the association's internal ranking system. In 2010 Perlman stated that had Nebraska not been part of the AAU, the Big Ten Conference would likely not have invited it to become the athletic conference's 12th member."

Look, we all know that Miami is a **** fine academic institution, but if the Big 10 wants to manufacture an excuse to not invite Miami, THIS is the ideal excuse (though the Big 10 is perfectly willing to ignore AAU membership when it comes to Notre Dame).

In any event, for over 3 decades (since UiF got AAU membership), I have been asking the question of WHY Miami has not applied/been granted membership to the AAU. I would have expected the effort to be made under Shalala, not sure why it wasn't pushed harder. Should be a relevant question when the BoT interviews candidates to replace Frenk.
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My understanding is that AAU membership is by invitation only. If ND wanted in, they’d get the invitation. If they were seriously considering us, we would too. And both of us would likely qualify.
 
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rustywalkedaway said:
I did not claim that. I said that was the simplified version of the deal when Nebraska was in the admission procedure as the Big 10 knew it was going to lose accreditation. I knew it from inside knowledge at the time and it has become relatively common knowledge since.

Please share your sources of specific information. You know the ones that would "assure" us of your veracity. Otherwise this just continues your current stream of opinions masked as something more.
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You never said any of that. Maybe you want to blame it on your being inarticulate. That's up to you.

Keep up your attempts at hilarity. Claim that you have "inside knowledge" while asking someone else to "share sources of specific information". Hilarious.

I've already posted the quote where Nebraska's chancellor said that Nebraska would not have been invited to the Big 10 without AAU membership. But, yeah, your "inside knowledge" is superior to that of Nebraska's chancellor. And your ridiculous assertion that everyone knew that Nebraska would be kicked out of the AAU (it's MEMBERSHIP, not "accreditation", as the AAU has not accredited any schools for over 70 years) is simply not true. Nebraska lost the vote to be retained in the AAU by TWO VOTES, so it was not nearly such a done-deal as you claim.

Again, don't be mad at me for your poor sentence construction.

Walk away. I blew out both the knees of your weak and misleading posts.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You never said any of that. Maybe you want to blame it on your being inarticulate. That's up to you.

Keep up your attempts at hilarity. Claim that you have "inside knowledge" while asking someone else to "share sources of specific information". Hilarious.

I've already posted the quote where Nebraska's chancellor said that Nebraska would not have been invited to the Big 10 without AAU membership. But, yeah, your "inside knowledge" is superior to that of Nebraska's chancellor. And your ridiculous assertion that everyone knew that Nebraska would be kicked out of the AAU (it's MEMBERSHIP, not "accreditation", as the AAU has not accredited any schools for over 70 years) is simply not true. Nebraska lost the vote to be retained in the AAU by TWO VOTES, so it was not nearly such a done-deal as you claim.

Again, don't be mad at me for your poor sentence construction.

Walk away. I blew out both the knees of your weak and misleading posts.
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I understand that you really like to lecture, cannot actually respond when challenged, and just want someone to tell you that you are right.

I hate to think what you are like to work with professionally. The fact that you keep trying to proclaim some sort of victory or dominance demonstrates how insecure you must be.

But you can do whatever you like as I am now done with this.
 
NorthEastCane said:
My understanding is that AAU membership is by invitation only. If ND wanted in, they’d get the invitation. If they were seriously considering us, we would too. And both of us would likely qualify.
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You may very well be correct. But that also makes my question even more relevant. I get your comments on ND, but I seriously doubt the AAU was just sitting around thinking "if only we can get Texas A&M or the University of Utah...". This isn't a football conference and it's not fraternity rush, it's an academic membership society. I have no idea why the AAU is, or is not, "seriously considering us", but if we meet the criteria, I don't see why we wouldn't get the invitation.

Again, that's not a criticism of anything you said, just a confounding question of why UM hasn't smooched a little **** or bought someone a few drinks over the last three decades. I don't think that there is anything that UM has or has not done over the past 30 years to "finally" become eligible. We have the med school. We have the engineering school. We have the research profile.

Why Foote or Shalala didn't get us in during their tenures, I have no idea. If someone knows, I would love to hear it. Wash U is in (Foote was there before he came to UM). Syracuse was in when Shalala was there, and Wisconsin is in. Certainly, those two past presidents would have known the reputational benefits of AAU membership. And Frenk knows how to take his shirt off.

Strange.
 
rustywalkedaway said:
I understand that you really like to lecture, cannot actually respond when challenged, and just want someone to tell you that you are right.

I hate to think what you are like to work with professionally. The fact that you keep trying to proclaim some sort of victory or dominance demonstrates how insecure you must be.

But you can do whatever you like as I am now done with this.
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So people are supposed to read your inaccurate, misleading posts, and then just say nothing, all because you belatedly claim "inside knowledge"?

Like Rusty, your comeback failed.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
You may very well be correct. But that also makes my question even more relevant. I get your comments on ND, but I seriously doubt the AAU was just sitting around thinking "if only we can get Texas A&M or the University of Utah...". This isn't a football conference and it's not fraternity rush, it's an academic membership society. I have no idea why the AAU is, or is not, "seriously considering us", but if we meet the criteria, I don't see why we wouldn't get the invitation.

Again, that's not a criticism of anything you said, just a confounding question of why UM hasn't smooched a little **** or bought someone a few drinks over the last three decades. I don't think that there is anything that UM has or has not done over the past 30 years to "finally" become eligible. We have the med school. We have the engineering school. We have the research profile.

Why Foote or Shalala didn't get us in during their tenures, I have no idea. If someone knows, I would love to hear it. Wash U is in (Foote was there before he came to UM). Syracuse was in when Shalala was there, and Wisconsin is in. Certainly, those two past presidents would have known the reputational benefits of AAU membership. And Frenk knows how to take his shirt off.

Strange.
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My point was that one of the member schools from the Big 10 that had clout (like Michigan or Northwestern who are both founding members) would initiate the membership process.
 
NorthEastCane said:
My point was that one of the member schools from the Big 10 that had clout (like Michigan or Northwestern who are both founding members) would initiate the membership process.
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Oh, I see. As in "connected to eventual Big 10 membership"?

Fair enough. I was just saying that regardless of the Big 10, Miami should already be in the AAU. I'm sure that when TUFTS got invited, it wasn't a prelude to a Big 10 invitation.

And, yes, I'm expressing some bitterness. I'm tired of three decades of UiF fans bragging about being the "only" AAU school in Florida.

PS, it's also the Association of AMERICAN Universities. McGill?
 
TheOriginalCane said:
As a UM alum, I am still stunned that we have not applied/been invited.
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They have not invited new members since the 1990s. In mafia terms, the books are closed. Being an AAU member doesn't really mean anything. There are schools many times better in quality than some of the "AAU accredited" institutions. As I said earlier, one of the biggest factors in accreditation is biomedical research. Miami has one of the best, if not THE best, spinal injury research programs in the world. Miami wouldnt have the slightest problem getting AAU accredited if we wanted it. Haven't had a need. If the B1G invited Miami on the condition of getting AAU accredited, it would be a mere formality.
 
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