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Canes at 6 in latest playoff ranking

Assuming we beat Syracuse, there will be teams ahead of us losing conference championship games. I believe we stay in playoff contention with a close loss. The ACC will be pressuring for us. Of course, on paper, we should win out.
 

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TaylorWalls said:
I don't think it's much of a leap to suggest that Ole Miss is better than Liberty.
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But you said a team with three losses should never be in the playoffs. If that's the case, then we're just asking to see UNLV or BYU or Liberty get absolutely destroyed by the #5 seed.
 
TaylorWalls said:
But you said a team with three losses should never be in the playoffs. If that's the case, then we're just asking to see UNLV or BYU or Liberty get absolutely destroyed by the #5 seed.
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If it happens to be that way then so be it.
You have to draw the line somewhere and cannot just say this team is better than that team on paper so put them in. A team like Liberty should be rewarded over a three loss underachieving team.
 
Colombie said:
If it happens to be that way then so be it.
You have to draw the line somewhere and cannot just say this team is better than that team on paper so put them in. A team like Liberty should be rewarded over a three loss underachieving team.
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I don't think I could possibly disagree more. That's a first round bye for the #5 seed. Total waste of time. 56-3 final.
 
TaylorWalls said:
I don't think I could possibly disagree more. That's a first round bye for the #5 seed. Total waste of time. 56-3 final.
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So give me a logical argument of where you draw the line then. Should a four loss team be put in because they would keep the game closer against the 5 seed? Should a six loss team be put in?
At some point you have to say that a team that underachieves should be left home.
 
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Colombie said:
So give me a logical argument of where you draw the line then. Should a four loss team be put in because they would keep the game closer against the 5 seed? Should a six loss team be put in?
At some point you have to say that a team that underachieves should be left home.
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You drew the line at three losses and that gives you a terrible 5-12 game. This isn't black and white, being able to set an exact number of losses. Take 2022 for example. You would have had Troy or UTSA in the playoffs, skipping over 12 teams. Yawn.
 
TaylorWalls said:
You drew the line at three losses and that gives you a terrible 5-12 game. This isn't black and white, being able to set an exact number of losses. Take 2022 for example. You would have had Troy or UTSA in the playoffs, skipping over 12 teams. Yawn.
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Well you are not answering the question.
You can yawn all you want but to me it does not make logical sense to put in a three loss team over a team that actually wins a conference just because they have more talent or would make a game make you yawn less. There has to be a logical set of criteria and you cannot spell it out.
 
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252cane said:
If uga loses the seccg I believe they will get in with 3 losses
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The only way UGA is out is if GT absolutely thumps them, which will not happen. I don't think there is any scenario where UGA is out, even if they lose one more game. If they make the SECCG and lose, they are definitely not out.
 
Colombie said:
Well you are not answering the question.
You can yawn all you want but to me it does not make logical sense to put in a three loss team over a team that actually wins a conference just because they have more talent or would make a game make you yawn less. There has to be a logical set of criteria and you cannot spell it out.
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There "has to be" a logical set of criteria? No, no there doesn't. We're going to have the playoffs without your mandate. You'll see.

It's magnificently stupid to box yourself in with a rule like "maximum 2 losses". You tell someone like 2022 Utah to cancel their game at Florida and play New Mexico State instead. Can't risk a loss. If they play the game and lose by one point, they get passed over by #24 Troy, who beat Army 10-9.
 
Colombie said:
Well you are not answering the question.
You can yawn all you want but to me it does not make logical sense to put in a three loss team over a team that actually wins a conference just because they have more talent or would make a game make you yawn less. There has to be a logical set of criteria and you cannot spell it out.
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I understand your point but let’s say that three loss team lost to the 1, 2 and 3 ranked teams by one score each. Where does that put you on your stance of 3 losses and out? You have to acknowledge there is some nuance no matter what.

To your point this year, that three losses BAMA team should already be out of contention by getting butt ****ed by 5-5 OU and 6-5 Vandy.
 
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TaylorWalls said:
There "has to be" a logical set of criteria? No, no there doesn't. We're going to have the playoffs without your mandate. You'll see.

It's magnificently stupid to box yourself in with a rule like "maximum 2 losses". You tell someone like 2022 Utah to cancel their game at Florida and play New Mexico State instead. Can't risk a loss. If they play the game and lose by one point, they get passed over by #24 Troy, who beat Army 10-9.
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You have to have some logic to your argument though other than it makes you yawn less. That to me does not hold any water.

It would be like saying hey let's put in an NFL team into the playoffs who underachieved because of their talent and they would be better than the team that won a weak division.
Just does not make any sense.
 
mirvin88 said:
I understand your point but let’s say that three loss team lost to the 1, 2 and 3 ranked teams by one score each. Where does that put you on your stance of 3 losses and out? You have to acknowledge there is some nuance no matter what.

To your point this year, that three losses BAMA team should already be out of contention by getting butt ****ed by 5-5 OU and 6-5 Vandy.
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As I said in my other post I see it like I see the NFL.
There are teams in strong divisions that get left out because other NFL teams win crappy divisions.
Tough luck, if you lose three games you get no sympathy from me.
 
PIPO said:
Let’s just get a win.

We are also all Vanderbilt fans this weekend as well South Carolina.
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If South Carolina beats Clemson they will be in with 3 losses. Clemson could at least get ****ed because they are "ACC" only one of the 2 loss teams would get in.
 
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Colombie said:
You have to have some logic to your argument though other than it makes you yawn less. That to me does not hold any water.

It would be like saying hey let's put in an NFL team into the playoffs who underachieved because of their talent and they would be better than the team that won a weak division.
Just does not make any sense.
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Comparing this to the NFL is a total non-starter. The schedules in the NFL are roughly equal. Saying that 8-3 Ole Miss is already out, but 9-2 Liberty still has a shot just shows a lack of understanding of the different tiers in college football.

In 2018, there were only ten (10) ranked teams with 0-1-2 losses. So your playoff bracket would have extended to unranked teams while telling LSU that you can't lose to three top 20 teams.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Clemson will not leapfrog ND or Tennessee even if they win.

The only scenarios that would get three in imo is the following:

Miami, SMU, and Clemson take care of business.
Tennessee loses to Vandy, they’re out.
Miami loses a thriller to SMU like 41-38, then three are in.

ND loses to USC, it’s an argument. They’ll take a 2-loss Texas over Clemson. Same with Tennessee.

SMU gets jumped if they lose in the ACCCG imo. Only realistic scenario for all three is them winning the ACCCG in tight fashion over us, and Clemson beating SCar + one of Tennessee, Indiana or ND losing.

Its possible, just unlikely.
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I forgot about the fact the B12 leader is ranked lower and would take Clemson’s spot. But I still think they jump a couple spots if they beat USCe so I’m expecting them in with a win.
 
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