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Canes at 6 in latest playoff ranking

cway313 said:
Congrats, you were too stupid to start from the beginning. Hats off to you detective **** head.
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I've read the whole thread from the beginning. I responded to YOUR terrible and false contribution.

Or are you going to tell me there was some hidden context for why you claimed 9-3 South Carolina has a better shot of making the playoffs than a 10-2 Clemson?

Don't be mad. You bloviated some bull****, and someone called it out. I realize you've built up your myth with some tuff-talking nonsense (but you sound REALLY confident spewing falsehoods), but you can't take it personally when people hold up a mirror to your fraudulent and false porsts.

Settle down. Try to think up some alternate reason why Clemson would be jumped at 10-2.

You're getting verrrrry angry. And name-cally.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
I've read the whole thread from the beginning. I responded to YOUR terrible and false contribution.

Or are you going to tell me there was some hidden context for why you claimed 9-3 South Carolina has a better shot of making the playoffs than a 10-2 Clemson?

Don't be mad. You bloviated some bull****, and someone called it out. I realize you've built up your myth with some tuff-talking nonsense (but you sound REALLY confident spewing falsehoods), but you can't take it personally when people hold up a mirror to your fraudulent and false porsts.

Settle down. Try to think up some alternate reason why Clemson would be jumped at 10-2.
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9-3 usce has a better chance jumping an ACC team than 10-2 Clemson. Read that over and over again until it sticks.
 
cway313 said:
9-3 usce has a better chance jumping an ACC team than 10-2 Clemson. Read that over and over again until it sticks.
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So now your claim is that #15 South Carolina at 9-3 would vault a #9 SMU at 11-2 or a #6 Miami at 11-2 when the CFP has already said it is not going to penalize teams that play in a conference championship game.

Although why you think a #12 Clemson at 10-2 couldn't jump over a #9 SMU at 11-2, I have no idea.

You really aren't very good at this.

Try again.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
So now your claim is that #15 South Carolina at 9-3 would vault a #9 SMU at 11-2 or a #6 Miami at 11-2 when the CFP has already said it is not going to penalize teams that play in a conference championship game.

You really aren't very good at this.

Try again.
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No, you stupid *****. The fact is an SEC team has a better shot jumping an ACC team than another ACC team that wasn't in the championship game.
 
cway313 said:
No, you stupid *****. The fact is an SEC team has a better shot jumping an ACC team than another ACC team that wasn't in the championship game.
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I know you are just dying to call me a different name.

Regardless, the CFP is not going to rocket South Carolina from #15 just because you think they will.

If Clemson beats a team ranked 3 spots lower, and SMU loses to a team ranked three spots higher, and there are only two teams between SMU and Clemson, it is very reasonable for the CFP to swap Clemson and SMU's positions.

On the other hand, you are positing a bizarre world in which #15 South Carolina would vault multiple teams, including other SEC teams unlikely to lose this weekend (Alabama and Ole Miss). But again, you only recently moved the goalposts to "an SEC team", when you clearly started off talking about South Carolina.

Whatever. Believe what you want to believe.
 
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ADELPHI said:
Don't think Bama gets in over the loser of the ACCCG if it's us vs SMU. It would be hard to rationalize that when both teams had only one regular season loss. Teams will not be rewarded for sitting on their asses while watching two 1 loss teams play an additional game in a conference championship. **** Bama! Saban ain't there anymore and the shine is wearing off
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I hope you are right. I agree, it should be hard to rationalize Alabama being over a P4 team that had only 1 regular season loss, but here we are with Bama right on the cusp of the playoffs with 3 losses, their last loss being an absolute massacre.

Only Oregon, OSU, Texas, and UGA (yes, I think UGA is still in even with a loss to GT) can lose and still be in. A loss by any other team currently in the playoffs opens the door for Bama if Bama wins this weekend. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.
 
Stats02 said:
I hope you are right. I agree, it should be hard to rationalize Alabama being over a P4 team that had only 1 regular season loss, but here we are with Bama right on the cusp of the playoffs with 3 losses, their last loss being an absolute massacre.

Only Oregon, OSU, Texas, and UGA (yes, I think UGA is still in even with a loss to GT) can lose and still be in. A loss by any other team currently in the playoffs opens the door for Bama if Bama wins this weekend. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.
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It's up to the CFP to follow through on what they have promised.

If Championship Game "losers" are not supposed to be heavily penalized for playing in a CG, I'll let the CFP show me.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
It's up to the CFP to follow through on what they have promised.

If Championship Game "losers" are not supposed to be heavily penalized for playing in a CG, I'll let the CFP show me.
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True, this first year of the expanded 12 team playoff is going to put the CFP to the test.

Show me the expanded playoff wasn't just a ploy to get in more SEC teams. Here is their chance to do just that.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
when the CFP has already said it is not going to penalize teams that play in a conference championship game.
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Just an FYI, the CFP did not say this. They hinted around that they respect teams that get to the championship games but the head of the committee absolutely did not say "we won't penalize them for losing".
 
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TaylorWalls said:
Just an FYI, the CFP did not say this. They hinted around that they respect teams that get to the championship games but the head of the committee absolutely did not say "we won't penalize them for losing".
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It doesn’t matter what they say or don’t say. They say different/conflicting things. It’s all subjective so they can just do whatever they want and there is zero accountability.
 
Yeah, I think they're backtracking a little from saying losing in a conference championship won't penalize a team. ... I found an October 30th interview between UGA's Dawgnation and the Executive Director of the CFP using ChatGPT. Seems highly sus to me:

Will the loser of a conference championship game be penalized in the eyes of the committee, perhaps slipping in the final CFP rankings below a team from the same conference that did not play in that conference championship game?

“That’s something we talked about with the committee members … in the discussion, what I realized is they are sophisticated enough to know that in a conference e championship you have the top two teams in a conference playing and the third-place team is sitting out and not putting it on the table and risking a loss.

“All wins aren’t created equal, and all losses aren’t created equal, either. It depends on what the loss looks like, it depends on who we are talking about as the third-place team.

“I honestly don’t think a team would be unduly penalized if they lost in a conference championship game.”

Will making a championship game be considered a data point among the committee’s evaluation in ranking the teams?

“I don’t think just the virtue that they made it to the championship game is the data point — I think the data point is how did they perform in that conference championship game,” Clark said. “The committee will look at that, will have watched the game and judged them against that opponent.

“But I wouldn’t say they get extra points because they were in the conference championship game, but certainly their road to get to the championship game will give them a boost….”

www.dawgnation.com

12-team College Football Playoff stipulations unraveled, first rankings next week

ATHENS — Perhaps it’s only appropriate the first set of College Football Playoff rankings will come out next Tuesday night, as the nation’s presidential election gets decided.
www.dawgnation.com www.dawgnation.com
 
Do we take this right now?
 

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We don't win the ACC Championship we ain't getting in, Smu and the hard on they have for dabo
 
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Hoyacane1620 said:



College Football Playoff Selection Committee chair Warde Manuel said the committee values Miami’s performance this year, considering their dominant wins over teams like Florida as well as their ability to come back in other games.

“I think we value both when you win,” Manuel said. “Miami has a dominant win over Florida, then they had a close win in a very good game against Louisville. They found a way to win close games until they played Georgia Tech at Georgia Tech. You look at what they did this past weekend with their win over Wake Forest. (It) reminded the committee of how they played against Florida.

“We value winning with teams. But we do see when teams are playing close games and how they finish and whether they win them or lose them. We do watch that. But we value, ultimately, when the teams do find a way to win. But Miami has done both. They’ve dominated teams, and they’ve had some very close games. Even the loss to Georgia Tech was a close game.”
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There is always the argument that the Canes don’t have a win against a team that is currently ranked, but if the Canes win this weekend, they will have played as many as 8-9 teams that are potentially bowl eligible. Not sure if any other ranked team can claim that.

UF, FAMU (6 wins, so I think that qualifies), USF, VT (if they win this weekend), California, Louisville, Duke, GT and Syracuse

Ball State, FSU and Wake are the only three Canes opponents who will not be bowl eligible

The CFP Committee seemed to look at this and that is why the Canes are ranked #6, and no two loss teams are ranked higher.
 
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