2025 Ben Hanks Jr 4* CB from Booker T Commits to the Gator

Relying on Pickett and Hanks to flip is setting themselves up for failure. DB class is looking bad again
Recruiting is a Risk/Reward endeavor even more so when recruiting whales. It’s not for the faint of heart. Mario and staff have succeeded more than failed even with sub par teams against the elite. Mario and the Canes will close strong again. There’s nothing about Mario and his recruiting that lends credence to your tone.
 
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keeping it buck...and i say this to Pick too....
but were undefeated and probly gonna win a natty this year (IMO)
on top of that they'd both walk in and have a chance to start as true frosh or at least play a **** ton
if they cant see that...i mean, later! im tried of the excuses...be a part of something special or commit where you are 1000% and stop playin
This is the **** everybody should be saying and thinking. The amount of star players who left because Miami was great but wanted to be the ones who brought the school back are large and stud talents have the chance now. If they don't want this ok just trust they'll wish they were here later and I'll stand 10 toes down on that
 
Recruiting is a Risk/Reward endeavor even more so when recruiting whales. It’s not for the faint of heart. Mario and staff have succeeded more than failed even with sub par teams against the elite. Mario and the Canes will close strong again. There’s nothing about Mario and his recruiting that lends credence to your tone.
That’s great and all and if that was DL, OL, RB, TE, LB, and even WR to an extent I’d agree. DB on the other hand….
 
The rules for us always get re-adjusted. ALWAYS. First it was, "I need to see what they do on the field first"...well, they see it...now its, "Well, now I need to see what they do to replace Cam after this year!"...LOL. Smh.

Goalpost just keeps moving for UM. Like OSU doesnt have to replace Will Howard..Bama doesnt have to replace Jalen Milroe...Oregon doesnt have to replace Dillon Gabriel and UGA doesnt have to replace Carson Beck..Just tired of it and tired of these recruits making excuses. You dont want to come? Just say so and stop wasting our time with games.
Just what it is when you aren’t an established program with a long track record of success in this era. Hanging on to what kids say will drive u crazy lol
 
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That’s great and all and if that was DL, OL, RB, TE, LB, and even WR to an extent I’d agree. DB on the other hand….
Recruits should see Opportunity ala OJ and Zayquan to a certain degree to compete for playing time and should also see themselves (If they are the Guy) as the Missing pieces in the secondary. We’re not talking about a complete overhaul on the defense as the defense like it or not is the #1 defense in the ACC. We’re talking a couple of missing pieces from a complete defense. A Good recruiting staff on an undefeated Top 4 team can make that sell. They’ve made a far more formidable sales jobs with a far inferior team.
 
DB has been a tough one for years now, which is certainly counterintuitive.

My hope is this is just another "recruiting rule" that Mario will reverse.
I think everyone is overlooking the 23 class, it's got 5 good DB's, the 24 class is good again, and might get a lot better
 
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because you are going by what they do in HS instead of transitioning them to College ball and the speed of the game. Its different than HS so alot of guys wont work out, it happens all the time at UGA and Bama where guys who were rated high cant handle the speed of the game and they transfer out. Then when those kids go to FSU or wherever that fan base thinks they are getting a difference maker and they aren't that at all. You have to hoard that top talent so the misses wont hit you harder PAUSE. So you have to get DJ and Hanks just in case other guys aint it, for example Stafford will never see the field here possibly and lots of people were high on him ( I wasn't) I dont care if he made 30 HS all star games that doesn't mean a thing.

This is why the class at that spot is underwhelming, you cant let DJ be Jeremiah and go to LSU. You cant allow that. What if he becomes a shut down corner? That by itself can help this team tremendously next season, and if our guys aren't difference makers we will be in the same spot next season defensively, because one top player can change a defense entirely.
How do you propose they keep Pickett home? You don’t think Mario leaves no stone unturned?
 
How do you propose they keep Pickett home? You don’t think Mario leaves no stone unturned?
Idk man I don’t know stuff behind the scenes. I’m sure he is trying but Saban used to get kids that didn’t want to go there like Najee Harris. Dude hates Bama but still went…..that money and Saban were too good to pass up.
 
The rules for us always get re-adjusted. ALWAYS. First it was, "I need to see what they do on the field first"...well, they see it...now its, "Well, now I need to see what they do to replace Cam after this year!"...LOL. Smh.

Goalpost just keeps moving for UM. Like OSU doesnt have to replace Will Howard..Bama doesnt have to replace Jalen Milroe...Oregon doesnt have to replace Dillon Gabriel and UGA doesnt have to replace Carson Beck..Just tired of it and tired of these recruits making excuses. You dont want to come? Just say so and stop wasting our time with games.

Yesasirrrr!! Lol ***** comical. And it gets worse. You named players on teams where the recruit can see who was recruited to replay those players. And they aren't "projects" or high upsides.

And imma say this out loud and DUCK.... for some reason, the fan base defaults to "i trust Mario's evals".....like......you will NEVER convince me 1 person or staff is correct more times than the consensus or composite. Ain't no way we gone sit here and say some if not all these kids should be higher ranked than their current or end of year rankings.

AND THATS FINE!! let's just stop acting like our evals are better than the those for the other 97 of top 100 kids commited to other schools. It's maddening.

That being said....🤣🤣🤣🤣 I only care about the recruit that actually ends up playing at the collegiate level. I only follow recruiting for the bragging rights when we hit.
 
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Yesasirrrr!! Lol ***** comical. And it gets worse. You named players on teams where the recruit can see who was recruited to replay those players. And they aren't "projects" or high upsides.

And imma say this out loud and DUCK.... for some reason, the fan base defaults to "i trust Mario's evals".....like......you will NEVER convince me 1 person or staff is correct more times than the consensus or composite. Ain't no way we gone sit here and say some if not all these kids should be higher ranked than their current or end of year rankings.

AND THATS FINE!! let's just stop acting like our evals are better than the those for the other 97 of top 100 kids commited to other schools. It's maddening.

That being said....🤣🤣🤣🤣 I only care about the recruit that actually ends up playing at the collegiate level. I only follow recruiting for the bragging rights when we hit.

**** was longer than it looked on my phone. My bad. 🤦🏾‍♂️
 
You want to have the recruiting sway Saban had - win a bunch of Natty's.
That really aint have sh to do with anything dude had the gift of gab at Bama day 1. He got the best roster with no challengers at the perfect time, now its more difficult cause there are some elite recruiters at elite jobs. All the others caught up and figured it out, thats why that dude dipped cause it would be more parity and will taint his elite resume.
 
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That really aint have sh to do with anything dude had the gift of gab at Bama day 1. He got the best roster with no challengers at the perfect time, now its more difficult cause there are some elite recruiters at elite jobs. All the others caught up and figured it out, thats why that dude dipped cause it would be more parity and will taint his elite resume.
It had a ton to do with not only winning but sending people to the league. If you believe Saban had the gift of gab, I don’t know what to say. He was convincing not because he was a talker or had a great personality he laid out a coherent plan on why Bama was the spot based on results.

Dude was a perfectionist and it’s why people kept saying it was a business decision. It wasn’t the short term bags that landed those kids, although it helped, it was the fact that he developed the kids, they won and got to the league.

Saban ran a program that was pro level top to bottom and why those kids put up playing 3 years or so in ****** Alabama.
 
It had a ton to do with not only winning but sending people to the league. If you believe Saban had the gift of gab, I don’t know what to say. He was convincing not because he was a talker or had a great personality he laid out a coherent plan on why Bama was the spot based on results.

Dude was a perfectionist and it’s why people kept saying it was a business decision. It wasn’t the short term bags that landed those kids, although it helped, it was the fact that he developed the kids, they won and got to the league.

Saban ran a program that was pro level top to bottom and why those kids put up playing 3 years or so in ****** Alabama.
I mean he did that year one with an elite class and lost to some hidden gem 2 star university year one. Every interview I hear he seems like he is straight up with kids. That’s how he comes across for me. He was there closer same like Mario does no nonsense guys that won’t bs you. You know you coming in to work hard and get after it while he tells a guy like Bain “trust me I’m going to make sure you aren’t the only guy, I will recruit guys just like you”

But that’s just me idk the guy personally all I hear are social media and forum rumors that he’s an ***. But that’s all that’s written so who knows I never met him.
 
I mean he did that year one with an elite class and lost to some hidden gem 2 star university year one. Every interview I hear he seems like he is straight up with kids. That’s how he comes across for me. He was there closer same like Mario does no nonsense guys that won’t bs you. You know you coming in to work hard and get after it while he tells a guy like Bain “trust me I’m going to make sure you aren’t the only guy, I will recruit guys just like you”

But that’s just me idk the guy personally all I hear are social media and forum rumors that he’s an ***. But that’s all that’s written so who knows I never met him.
He came to Bama with a ring so the proof of concept was there. The first elite class was mostly Bama kids as well. Yeah he always kept it a buck with kids and that’s my point. It ain’t the gift of gab it’s professionalism through and through. You walk away confident he will take care of your future if you are serious about football. It’s why they always said it was always a business decision when they commit. It’s not personality it’s vision and execution.
 
He came to Bama with a ring so the proof of concept was there. The first elite class was mostly Bama kids as well. Yeah he always kept it a buck with kids and that’s my point. It ain’t the gift of gab it’s professionalism through and through. You walk away confident he will take care of your future if you are serious about football. It’s why they always said it was always a business decision when they commit. It’s not personality it’s vision and execution.
Yea this could be facts as well, this is a fair point right here
 
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