2025 Ben Hanks Jr 4* CB from Booker T Commits to the Gator

its bad esp with the type of season were having
this is norvel esq recruting when he was winning
You realize almost all of the top 100-200 kids were committed before we took our first snap vs Florida, and statistically a vast majority of kids don't decommit once they're committed. This class has seen Miami perform poorly the last two years, the two classes prior were being sold on a vision, that's the difference. We should see a major bumb in the 26 class, imo we;ll easily have a top 5 class next cycle.
 
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keeping it buck...and i say this to Pick too....
but were undefeated and probly gonna win a natty this year (IMO)
on top of that they'd both walk in and have a chance to start as true frosh or at least play a **** ton
if they cant see that...i mean, later! im tried of the excuses...be a part of something special or commit where you are 1000% and stop playin
 
You realize almost all of the top 100-200 kids were committed before we took our first snap vs Florida, and statistically a vast majority of kids don't decommit once they're committed. This class has seen Miami perform poorly the last two years, the two classes prior were being sold on a vision, that's the difference. We should see a major bumb in the 26 class, imo we;ll easily have a top 5 class next cycle.
then why were we fed a false narrative basically saying if we win they will come
i think its fair to be fan and still be critical of our recruiting this year
esp since its lagging behind the last two classes
with little chance of reaching top 5
 
then why were we fed a false narrative basically saying if we win they will come
i think its fair to be fan and still be critical of our recruiting this year
esp since its lagging behind the last two classes
with little chance of reaching top 5
I'm not saying we won't get some high profile guys between now and signing day, we didn't land Justin Scott until a week or two before NSD if i remember right, I'm still expecting DJ in the class and if Florida continues to drop games and they end up firing Napier I think we get Hanks as well and possibly Vernell Brown. IMO if we're 7-2 right now we would have no chance with any of them and possibly would have had a few decommits from guys we wanted to keep.
 
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I 100% did not think OJ would be what he is now. Using an outlier doesn’t make anyone’s case more compelling though. Personally I’m excited to see how OJ develops as he has a shot to be a real good one but Brown does nothing for me. I think we are all high on Quan.
That's thr thing though OJ wasn't an outlier he's a player who was much better than his star rankings and responded better than most of these high profile guys who got crowned by everybody. That's the point we can go and speculate like crazy about **** thede players will be and when but if we go in the archives here the insanely bad takes/predictions of these HS players can go on for weeks so let's just see how they evolve later before making guarantees
 
because you are going by what they do in HS instead of transitioning them to College ball and the speed of the game. Its different than HS so alot of guys wont work out, it happens all the time at UGA and Bama where guys who were rated high cant handle the speed of the game and they transfer out. Then when those kids go to FSU or wherever that fan base thinks they are getting a difference maker and they aren't that at all. You have to hoard that top talent so the misses wont hit you harder PAUSE. So you have to get DJ and Hanks just in case other guys aint it, for example Stafford will never see the field here possibly and lots of people were high on him ( I wasn't) I dont care if he made 30 HS all star games that doesn't mean a thing.

This is why the class at that spot is underwhelming, you cant let DJ be Jeremiah and go to LSU. You cant allow that. What if he becomes a shut down corner? That by itself can help this team tremendously next season, and if our guys aren't difference makers we will be in the same spot next season defensively, because one top player can change a defense entirely.
If half of our secondary class pans out well that's solid. But we'll need an impact guy at corner & safety from the portal no matter what to protect us with what you're talking about because it's true. At corner alone between Antoine, Ewald, Fitzgerald, and let's say Arnoux if Merritt bounces we'll be lucky to get 2 of those guys to be good but we need all of them so it puts lots of pressure on Mario, Guidry, and Chevis to hit big in portal if you can't flip at least one of Hanks or Pickett.
 
keeping it buck...and i say this to Pick too....
but were undefeated and probly gonna win a natty this year (IMO)
on top of that they'd both walk in and have a chance to start as true frosh or at least play a **** ton
if they cant see that...i mean, later! im tried of the excuses...be a part of something special or commit where you are 1000% and stop playin
The rules for us always get re-adjusted. ALWAYS. First it was, "I need to see what they do on the field first"...well, they see it...now its, "Well, now I need to see what they do to replace Cam after this year!"...LOL. Smh.

Goalpost just keeps moving for UM. Like OSU doesnt have to replace Will Howard..Bama doesnt have to replace Jalen Milroe...Oregon doesnt have to replace Dillon Gabriel and UGA doesnt have to replace Carson Beck..Just tired of it and tired of these recruits making excuses. You dont want to come? Just say so and stop wasting our time with games.
 
The rules for us always get re-adjusted. ALWAYS. First it was, "I need to see what they do on the field first"...well, they see it...now its, "Well, now I need to see what they do to replace Cam after this year!"...LOL. Smh.

Goalpost just keeps moving for UM. Like OSU doesnt have to replace Will Howard..Bama doesnt have to replace Jalen Milroe...Oregon doesnt have to replace Dillon Gabriel and UGA doesnt have to replace Carson Beck..Just tired of it and tired of these recruits making excuses. You dont want to come? Just say so and stop wasting our time with games.
could not agree more...its tiring af as a fan
 
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That's thr thing though OJ wasn't an outlier he's a player who was much better than his star rankings and responded better than most of these high profile guys who got crowned by everybody. That's the point we can go and speculate like crazy about **** thede players will be and when but if we go in the archives here the insanely bad takes/predictions of these HS players can go on for weeks so let's just see how they evolve later before making guarantees
But he was exactly an outlier. We aren’t doing another one of these, the numbers bare that out in the aggregate. We can wait all we want, we already have waited 20 years for Miami, dealing with outliers. For every OJ there is a 100 Keion Paynes.
 
I get your frustration with prior recruiting failures, and this is a very good and deep class of DBs, so of course we want every top flight commit we can get. But objectively speaking the haul we already have is one of our best DB classes ever on paper. Got to hold onto them, for sure. But they're super high quality.

I'll be ecstatic if we can flip Hanks and/or Pickett. But I won't lose sleep if we don't. We just need to keep staking, class after class after class. And we need to be going hard at the portal this offseason, too.

p.s., I wouldn't be surprised if we trade Merritt for Hanks
I won’t lose sleep unless DJ does a Jeremiah and is an instant phenom. Only then I would trip out. If he’s a jag then I won’t care tbh
 
If half of our secondary class pans out well that's solid. But we'll need an impact guy at corner & safety from the portal no matter what to protect us with what you're talking about because it's true. At corner alone between Antoine, Ewald, Fitzgerald, and let's say Arnoux if Merritt bounces we'll be lucky to get 2 of those guys to be good but we need all of them so it puts lots of pressure on Mario, Guidry, and Chevis to hit big in portal if you can't flip at least one of Hanks or Pickett.
Yea you need a first round guy cause when it’s playoff time you will go against first rounders at every spot here and there. You have to have elite talent to go vs the top teams.
 
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Yea you need a first round guy cause when it’s playoff time you will go against first rounders at every spot here and there. You have to have elite talent to go vs the top teams.
True. We gotta find someone or two who can hold up against a Jeremiah Smith or Ryan Williams and we don't have it yet in the secondary. Guys like Antoine, Hanks, Pickett would be a great start but still too vulnerable no doubt.
 
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because you are going by what they do in HS instead of transitioning them to College ball and the speed of the game. Its different than HS so alot of guys wont work out, it happens all the time at UGA and Bama where guys who were rated high cant handle the speed of the game and they transfer out. Then when those kids go to FSU or wherever that fan base thinks they are getting a difference maker and they aren't that at all. You have to hoard that top talent so the misses wont hit you harder PAUSE. So you have to get DJ and Hanks just in case other guys aint it, for example Stafford will never see the field here possibly and lots of people were high on him ( I wasn't) I dont care if he made 30 HS all star games that doesn't mean a thing.

This is why the class at that spot is underwhelming, you cant let DJ be Jeremiah and go to LSU. You cant allow that. What if he becomes a shut down corner? That by itself can help this team tremendously next season, and if our guys aren't difference makers we will be in the same spot next season defensively, because one top player can change a defense entirely.

This is so important. Other than QB, there is no position that gives the other 10 players an instant boost than a shut-down corner. It literally changes your defense.
 
I know I'm in the minority here. And I claim no expertise especially related to DBs. But I like Hanks more than Pickett.
If the minority, it is a small minority. Taking away that Pickett has 5 stars and Hanks 4, it seems like tons of people would prefer Hanks if had to choose one, people get enamored by that 5th star. Really hope we land one of them although we obviously could use both.
 
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