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Jay Bilas just gets it.
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Article: NCAA Charges Miami With Lack of Institutional Control
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Larry
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Timmy would be the right guy to leak info to.
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This guy is officially off my EAD list.
nadiamufdi
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You just spoiled your wedding gift I got you
Miami likely knew the details of the NOA for quite some time.
Shalala will play the game within the rules of the NCAA. Having a tough public stance through media releases does not necessarily translate to a tough toe-to-toe legal battle.
The one thing the NCAA is afraid of is an antitrust lawsuit showing their abuse of the monopoly they control. The NCAA does not want any discovery of their sources and data, that's when they offer settlements.
Shalala will play the game within the rules of the NCAA. Having a tough public stance through media releases does not necessarily translate to a tough toe-to-toe legal battle.
The one thing the NCAA is afraid of is an antitrust lawsuit showing their abuse of the monopoly they control. The NCAA does not want any discovery of their sources and data, that's when they offer settlements.
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If they were offering a settlement Donna wouldnt have **** punched emmert like she did. She's ready for war IMO
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Hey, I have a 14 inch cack. Hey, I have a 14 inch cack. Per the ncaa, I have a 14 inch ****.
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Do you meet the following qulification tho?....Did you hussle people out of millions of dollars? Are you a convicted lyer? We gotta remember the ethical qualifications that would make your word have so much weight.
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This. If we were getting what we wanted she would have stayed quiet. Now that they've gone for the throat, she has to unleash.
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"The NCAA has always gotten what it wanted. Because it made up the rules, and is the sole enforcer of them, the NCAA has never not been able to push around anyone its in way, be it players, programs or politicians. This time could have been different. After the investigation was screwed up so spectacularly, so publicly, and so obviously, and it became clear the NCAA was no better than the shady programs it claims to police (even making use of the same petty crook, Nevin Shapiro, that got Miami in trouble), Mark Emmert could have let it go, and slunk off to lick his wounds and do battle another day.
Not going to happen. Finally, after two years of investigation and enough detours to fill a 52-page report on the investigation's ****-ups, the NCAA gave Miami its official notice of allegations. Included is the dreaded "lack of institutional control" charge, the most serious that can be leveled and almost always a precursor to major penalties. Miami's self-imposed sanctions—bowl bans, scholarships forfeited, players declared ineligible—are apparently not enough. A bloodied NCAA still wants a fight, and it Miami is going to give it to them.
(Fascinatingly, this notice comes just days after the completion of the NCAA-sponsored investigation into its own misdemeanors. President Mark Emmert said that any information gathered improperly would be thrown out. So the NCAA threw it out, then turned around and still charged Miami with the worst thing it could.)
Immediately after receiving the allegations, university president Donna Shalala fired back with a pointed and bellicose public statement. It reads, in part:
This does not sound like a woman or a university willing to accede to punishment, and it's hard to see how they should, given that the NCAA forfeited the moral high ground long ago. Disposable cell phones. Money wired to a convicted con man's prison commissary account. A lawyer illegally and secretly on the payroll. These sound like the tactics of a rogue program, but they're all tricks the NCAA pulled out to nail Miami.
You want to talk about a lack of institutional control? Over the past year, the NCAA lost its VP of enforcement, a director of enforcement, and one of its most veteran investigators, all fired or resigned after their involvements in the Miami case came to light. Meanwhile, in October, the NCAA passed new legislation essentially codifying that ignorance is not a defense against infractions, and higher-ups are guilty until presumed innocent.
Yet Mark Emmert shuttles along on his quest, his defense being that he isn't responsible for the executives and underlings that repeatedly and flagrantly went outside the rules. The hypocrisy is almost too blatant to be offensive, until you remember that poor teenagers are paying the price for it.
It's fitting that everything, from Miami's downfall to the NCAA's immolation, hinges on Nevin Shapiro. He's the kind of sad-sack hanger-on that wouldn't exist without bogus rules banning players from benefiting from their work. He's a groupie, semi-legally providing hospitality to his favorite program because no one else is allowed to. And now he's the NCAA's main witness, and they've shown willing to play exactly as dirty if that's what it takes. The NCAA is a grand feudal experiment, the unpaid labor tied to their manors, and it's not working. Instead of lifting the serfs up to some lofty ideal of amateurism, the lords just got right down in the muck with them."
"The NCAA has always gotten what it wanted. Because it made up the rules, and is the sole enforcer of them, the NCAA has never not been able to push around anyone its in way, be it players, programs or politicians. This time could have been different. After the investigation was screwed up so spectacularly, so publicly, and so obviously, and it became clear the NCAA was no better than the shady programs it claims to police (even making use of the same petty crook, Nevin Shapiro, that got Miami in trouble), Mark Emmert could have let it go, and slunk off to lick his wounds and do battle another day.
Not going to happen. Finally, after two years of investigation and enough detours to fill a 52-page report on the investigation's ****-ups, the NCAA gave Miami its official notice of allegations. Included is the dreaded "lack of institutional control" charge, the most serious that can be leveled and almost always a precursor to major penalties. Miami's self-imposed sanctions—bowl bans, scholarships forfeited, players declared ineligible—are apparently not enough. A bloodied NCAA still wants a fight, and it Miami is going to give it to them.
(Fascinatingly, this notice comes just days after the completion of the NCAA-sponsored investigation into its own misdemeanors. President Mark Emmert said that any information gathered improperly would be thrown out. So the NCAA threw it out, then turned around and still charged Miami with the worst thing it could.)
Immediately after receiving the allegations, university president Donna Shalala fired back with a pointed and bellicose public statement. It reads, in part:
This does not sound like a woman or a university willing to accede to punishment, and it's hard to see how they should, given that the NCAA forfeited the moral high ground long ago. Disposable cell phones. Money wired to a convicted con man's prison commissary account. A lawyer illegally and secretly on the payroll. These sound like the tactics of a rogue program, but they're all tricks the NCAA pulled out to nail Miami.
You want to talk about a lack of institutional control? Over the past year, the NCAA lost its VP of enforcement, a director of enforcement, and one of its most veteran investigators, all fired or resigned after their involvements in the Miami case came to light. Meanwhile, in October, the NCAA passed new legislation essentially codifying that ignorance is not a defense against infractions, and higher-ups are guilty until presumed innocent.
Yet Mark Emmert shuttles along on his quest, his defense being that he isn't responsible for the executives and underlings that repeatedly and flagrantly went outside the rules. The hypocrisy is almost too blatant to be offensive, until you remember that poor teenagers are paying the price for it.
It's fitting that everything, from Miami's downfall to the NCAA's immolation, hinges on Nevin Shapiro. He's the kind of sad-sack hanger-on that wouldn't exist without bogus rules banning players from benefiting from their work. He's a groupie, semi-legally providing hospitality to his favorite program because no one else is allowed to. And now he's the NCAA's main witness, and they've shown willing to play exactly as dirty if that's what it takes. The NCAA is a grand feudal experiment, the unpaid labor tied to their manors, and it's not working. Instead of lifting the serfs up to some lofty ideal of amateurism, the lords just got right down in the muck with them."
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My only thing with this is did he snitch to get his penalties reduced so thats why he didnt get hit with it.
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So, the attorney for Nevin Shapiro says she wouldn't work for a client who is corrupt?
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for the lawyers on here with this statement · Finally, we believe the NCAA was responsible for damaging leaks of unsubstantiated allegations over the course of the investigation. can the school go after them in court over slander?
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Yeah, don't know much about her, but obviously, she is a lawyer who tries to confine her practice to representation of client's of the highest ethical and moral standards.
Like she wasn't committing a fraud on the bankruptcy court by using the discovery process for some other purpose than intended by the courts?
I think even Emmert admitted that when he first became aware of it.
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From Tim's AP article this morning:
Several Miami football and men's basketball players have either served suspensions, paid restitution or both after their involvement with Shapiro was discovered. Apparently upset with how people he thought were friends turned their back on him following his conviction for the Ponzi operation, Shapiro vowed that he would take down the program.
"Had I realized I was dealing with, what is in my opinion ... such an incompetent regulatory institution, I would have never allowed Mr. Shapiro to have had any type of contact with the NCAA — period," Perez wrote in a text message to AP.
Several Miami football and men's basketball players have either served suspensions, paid restitution or both after their involvement with Shapiro was discovered. Apparently upset with how people he thought were friends turned their back on him following his conviction for the Ponzi operation, Shapiro vowed that he would take down the program.
"Had I realized I was dealing with, what is in my opinion ... such an incompetent regulatory institution, I would have never allowed Mr. Shapiro to have had any type of contact with the NCAA — period," Perez wrote in a text message to AP.
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I love it. I hope she throws them under the bus even more. Maybe we can in turn pay her to come and speak to the COI on Sat (sarcasm)
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