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Article: NCAA Charges Miami With Lack of Institutional Control

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bomb said:
kmwcane said:
Ethnicsands said:
LuCane said:
Canemang said:
The thing that scares me the most is, the NCAA has no one to answer to. If the COI wants to **** us, they can.
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They answer to the world and the rest of college football. And, the way they answer is that, if they **** us, no one will ever cooperate with an NCAA investigation again. There'd be no reason or incentive to do anything but stall, stonewall or outright lie.
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And yet i got attacked all day for saying maybe the cooperation strategy we pursued wasnt an unmitigated success. I'd guess Donna Shalala herself regrets it, yet her sycophants here see her every action as beyond flawless.
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But what good would an adversarial approach done right off the bat? And what harm has been done by cooperating up until this point?

I'm not sure how the outcome would have been any different if UM and Shalala had come out swinging like they have now. I'm not saying the course of cooperation is an "umitigated success", but I don't see how other courses of action would have been better to this point. They were cooperative up until the point they learned about the NCAA's malfeasance. Seems like a prudent approach to a situation to me.
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Me too. Because of how she played it, we now get to wear the white hat. We may be the first school to have a president who engineered a situation where screaming foul against the NCAA isn't being perceived as sour grapes.

Guess what? We broke rules. Lots of them. Badly. And we're the good guys!! Brilliant mastery of a complicated situation by Shalala. It's great to be!!
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and this guy gets it as well. you are dead on balls accurate about being able to wear the white hat. if we go guns out playing our cards from the get go we lose the pr war, which whether people want to acknowledge it or not, is crucial bc at this point the NCAA is under fire for their ethics and actions and winning the pr war is key in getting the media on our side to scrutinize and microscope the NCAA for what they are, unethical and improper. Ethnic is a good guy and solid poster but you are just being contrary at this point. Even you are admitting that she may have played this perfectly so by hedging your bet one way and going another is being just argumentative. It's beyond ridiculous to claim that any administrator is without flaw but there is absolutely nothing wrong with believing that we are in the best hands possible by having a President that has solid political power and intellect to handle the NCAA. I will make no apologies for believing that Donna Shalala and Mike Glazier have the best feel for this and will handle this as well as any people in the country.
 
Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynolds
Last tweet of night: I'm doing the math in my head. The "extra benefits" Shapiro provided? They added up to what, like maybe $40K? Really?
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That's less than Marie Elena Perez billed the NCAA for her time.
 
So Dan E. you think Miami has a legit shot at disputing the allegations and coming away with less of a penalty that would be given if we just accepted the LOIC?
 
No doubt there's a PR war. DS issuing an mmediate response on the heels of our getting the NOA is proof of that. She would not allow our getting hit with the NOA (and inevitable leaks of some of its contents coming out) to dominate the news cycle. This is classic political PR warfare.
 
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Wouldnt it be incredibly ironic that the Shapiro mess goes from a situation that could be potentially devastating to UM suddenly and completely turns around in our favor?!? The world of the constantly negative press against us how now shifted in the NCAA's direction.
 
Count me in the group that wasn't a fan of Shalala before but she has me calling her the new "Godmother" of the MIA! The ghost of Griselda Blanco! But i must say alot of the hate was kinda wayward. This lady has always fought for these kids. Who can forget after we fought FIU that year on the field and the entire media was against us and wanted half the team suspended for life how she said in the press conference that many of the kids suspended were good kids and she would NOT turn her back on them for one mistake. (paraphrasing) THAT TOOK GUTS! And going toe to toe with the NCAA takes guts and she should be given a standing O at the first home game during fball season.

And as far as the LOIC..I agree with the poster that said the NCAA kinda had to do this to save face. We forfeited TWO bowls AND the ACCCG! AND held back scholarships! AND held back recruiting visits!!! They couldn't come out and say they found nothing and we are good to go. **** the "Godmother" might have went after them for reparations as ****ed off as she is right now! I think this is all smoke and mirrors for the media and we get hit very lightly if at all. Let the games begin..
 
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Something to the effect of "if I had known they where such an incompetent regulatory organization I would have never worked with them"

NCAA is about to have Shapiro and that **** lawer going to war with them



Let it be know , we are the Miami hurricanes we took over college football, made the NCAA rewrite the rule book then destroyed the NCAA!
 
I have a feeling that after all is said and done, the rest of college football will owe us a big "thank you"
 
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Cot damnit mane...Donna Shalala is going to take down the NCAA. The University of Miami is going to take those ***** down.

LETS GO CANES!!
 
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I love that Donna is going to war for us, but I have simply no faith the ******* COI is going to help us out at all.
 
I love the fact that we are leaking directly to the AP and essentially getting them on our side at the same time.
 
Ethnicsands said:
scrantoncane said:
kmwcane said:
Ethnicsands said:
LuCane said:
They answer to the world and the rest of college football. And, the way they answer is that, if they **** us, no one will ever cooperate with an NCAA investigation again. There'd be no reason or incentive to do anything but stall, stonewall or outright lie.
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And yet i got attacked all day for saying maybe the cooperation strategy we pursued wasnt an unmitigated success. I'd guess Donna Shalala herself regrets it, yet her sycophants here see her every action as beyond flawless.
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But what good would an adversarial approach done right off the bat? And what harm has been done by cooperating up until this point?

I'm not sure how the outcome would have been any different if UM and Shalala had come out swinging like they have now. I'm not saying the course of cooperation is an "umitigated success", but I don't see how other course of action would have been better to this point. They were cooperative up until the point they learned about the NCAA's malfeasance. Seems like a prudent approach to a situation to me.
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+1.

I respect Ethnic as a poster, but he has been on a rant all week and just way off base. Gotta look at the big picture. Obviously we had some of this info, and obviously Donna thought she could get it settled. When she realized she couldnt, the gloves came off. Timing was perfect.

One big factor being overlooked by many is the desperate attempt of Emerett to keep his job. I think that is what is ******** the settlement up. The only possible way he can save face is to win in front of the COI. Yes, the NCAA has egg on its face, but Emerett (to a lesser extent than now) doesnt.

He is the man in charge, and he is trying to throw as many people under the bus as he can to get himself out of this. But if the milk is sour, Donna aint the type **** to drink it.
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That's just bull ****. I haven't been on a rant at all. I have just disputed those who insist that DS has somehow played this all like a genius. I'm not so sure she herself thinks her card playing to date has worked as anticipated. She's ****ed for a reason, after all.

And your description of what is 'obvious' is quite obviously uninformed, which is funny. There is no chance she thought this would be 'settled.' There is no precedent for the NCAA enforcement staff 'settling' charges. Just not something that happens. She's ****ed because the charges are not insignificant, and the NCAA's process for arriving at them was pathetic. Yet when you understand who screwed up the NCAA is, you might also realize why going out of your way to cooperate is not a great strategy.
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I think you need to take a step away from the internet and go on vacation. You come across obsessed. Seriously.
 
Jay Bilas ‏@JayBilas
After 2 years of shoddy, unethical NCAA "investigating," to deliver a Notice of Allegations to Miami yesterday is beyond tone deaf. Sad.
 
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