Article: NCAA Charges Miami With Lack of Institutional Control

[tsimonitis]

The thing that scares me the most is, the NCAA has no one to answer to. If the COI wants to **** us, they can.

They answer to the world and the rest of college football. And, the way they answer is that, if they **** us, no one will ever cooperate with an NCAA investigation again. There'd be no reason or incentive to do anything but stall, stonewall or outright lie.

The NCAA could easily be soon answering to the federal govt. The federal bankruptcy case has been compromised, the BCS/playoff can easily be investigated for an anti-trust suit, the tax break the NCAA receives based on their "amateur" status can be investigated, member institution receive federal money to fund their schools and the use of these funds can be explored. This is a outcome/path the NCAA doesn't want to see materialize.

 

[tsimonitis]

The thing that scares me the most is, the NCAA has no one to answer to. If the COI wants to **** us, they can.

They answer to the world and the rest of college football. And, the way they answer is that, if they **** us, no one will ever cooperate with an NCAA investigation again. There'd be no reason or incentive to do anything but stall, stonewall or outright lie.

The NCAA could easily be soon answering to the federal govt. The federal bankruptcy case has been compromised, the BCS/playoff can easily be investigated for an anti-trust suit, the tax break the NCAA receives based on their "amateur" status can be investigated, member institution receive federal money to fund their schools and the use of these funds can be explored. This is a outcome/path the NCAA doesn't want to see materialize.

 

[Dingaan1828]

She's RIPPING the NCAA on 105.9 in South Florida right now. RIPPING THEM. She says she's going after the NCAA and that if she knew how corrupt they were, she would have never helped them or had Shapiro work with them.

So, the attorney for Nevin Shapiro says she wouldn't work for a client who is corrupt?

Gotta love the irony.

 

[nadiamufdi]

The part where the NCAA considered anything Shapiro repeated as "corroborated" is hilarious.
Gotta be one of the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
Me thinks Miami's council is going to have a field day with this.

Hey, I have a 14 inch cack. Hey, I have a 14 inch cack. Per the ncaa, I have a 14 inch ****.

Do you meet the following qulification tho?....Did you hussle people out of millions of dollars? Are you a convicted lyer? We gotta remember the ethical qualifications that would make your word have so much weight.

Dammit! Busted! Back to having a run of the mill 6 incher

 

[moldycheese432]

just because we share a common enemy does not make her a friend.

 

[mirvin88]

**** that *****

Hope she dies

 

[moldycheese432]

I think the most important consequence is that we now hold the favor of public opinion. 2 1/2 years ago people were calling for the death of our program, and today things have taken quite a turn.

 

[tsimonitis]

If they were offering a settlement Donna wouldnt have **** punched emmert like she did. She's ready for war IMO

I think the window for settlement has passed. It will be all or nothing from this point forward. I can even see UM asking for restitution for unnecessary missed bowl games.

 

[nadiamufdi]

If they were offering a settlement Donna wouldnt have **** punched emmert like she did. She's ready for war IMO

I think the window for settlement has passed. It will be all or nothing from this point forward. I can even see UM asking for restitution for unnecessary missed bowl games.

Instead of scholarship losses, we should seek additional scholarships to make up for the recruits we missed out on due to their witch hunt

 

[tsimonitis]

I think the most important consequence is that we now hold the favor of public opinion. 2 1/2 years ago people were calling for the death of our program, and today things have taken quite a turn.

I have not read or heard a single argument in support of the NCAA on this investigation since the initial press conference. Even the most staunch anti-UM media are now on our side.

 

[4th-and-14]

No show cause for Haith


Steve Greenberg ‏@SN_Greenberg Frank Haith did receive NOA today. Said: "Contrary to what was reported, there was no unethical conduct in my notice of allegations."

So uh, what exactly did the NCAA prove?

That sounds like HUGE news for the bball program.

My only thing with this is did he snitch to get his penalties reduced so thats why he didnt get hit with it.

Bingo. Like with Marve and Brown and some of the recruits at other schools, the NCAA could easily just say "Just 'confirm' these allegations and we'll give you a free pass - otherwise, you're next." Then, lo and behold, the allegations have been corroborated.

 

[nadiamufdi]

I think the most important consequence is that we now hold the favor of public opinion. 2 1/2 years ago people were calling for the death of our program, and today things have taken quite a turn.

This will come down to the COI and not the court of public opinion unfortunately. If that were the case we would have gotten off with time served after the investigation detailed how much the ncaa cheated

 

[cane305]

Do you prefer a long drawn out process that hopefully results in overhaul of NCAA or a quiet settlement and keeping things the way they are?

 

[tsimonitis]

just because we share a common enemy does not make her a friend.

"the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

I would love her next statement to be "My client openly admits that everything he has told the NCAA and Yahoo was a lie. He wished to go on the record and say 'It's a Canes Thing. You wouldn' understand'"

 

[nadiamufdi]

Do you prefer a long drawn out process that hopefully results in overhaul of NCAA or a quiet settlement and keeping things the way they are?

Obviously the latter, but I dont see a quiet settlement coming after Donna just kicked them in the balls

 

[tsimonitis]

Do you prefer a long drawn out process that hopefully results in overhaul of NCAA or a quiet settlement and keeping things the way they are?

At this point....

 

[3FW]

The one thing the University can do is provide it's response very quickly and try to get before the COI in June. The odds of a lawsuit after the fact is probably close to 100%.

 

[JHallCanes]

They answer to the world and the rest of college football. And, the way they answer is that, if they **** us, no one will ever cooperate with an NCAA investigation again. There'd be no reason or incentive to do anything but stall, stonewall or outright lie.

And yet i got attacked all day for saying maybe the cooperation strategy we pursued wasnt an unmitigated success. I'd guess Donna Shalala herself regrets it, yet her sycophants here see her every action as beyond flawless.

But what good would an adversarial approach done right off the bat? And what harm has been done by cooperating up until this point?

I'm not sure how the outcome would have been any different if UM and Shalala had come out swinging like they have now. I'm not saying the course of cooperation is an "umitigated success", but I don't see how other courses of action would have been better to this point. They were cooperative up until the point they learned about the NCAA's malfeasance. Seems like a prudent approach to a situation to me.

Me too. Because of how she played it, we now get to wear the white hat. We may be the first school to have a president who engineered a situation where screaming foul against the NCAA isn't being perceived as sour grapes.

Guess what? We broke rules. Lots of them. Badly. And we're the good guys!! Brilliant mastery of a complicated situation by Shalala. It's great to be!!

and this guy gets it as well. you are dead on balls accurate about being able to wear the white hat. if we go guns out playing our cards from the get go we lose the pr war, which whether people want to acknowledge it or not, is crucial bc at this point the NCAA is under fire for their ethics and actions and winning the pr war is key in getting the media on our side to scrutinize and microscope the NCAA for what they are, unethical and improper. Ethnic is a good guy and solid poster but you are just being contrary at this point. Even you are admitting that she may have played this perfectly so by hedging your bet one way and going another is being just argumentative. It's beyond ridiculous to claim that any administrator is without flaw but there is absolutely nothing wrong with believing that we are in the best hands possible by having a President that has solid political power and intellect to handle the NCAA. I will make no apologies for believing that Donna Shalala and Mike Glazier have the best feel for this and will handle this as well as any people in the country.

"Dead on balls accurate"?

 

[kev13108]

Shalala #boss

 

[UM2020]

This whole fiasco is not going to end well for the NCAA!