AQM give me facts

[De Pinga]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

So he didn't want to press charges, yet brought it up to the school to get AQM suspended...........the "victim" sounds like a real C U N T

 

[dk72]

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

So he didn't want to press charges, yet brought it up to the school to get AQM suspended...........the "victim" sounds like a real C U N T

So getting tossed in jail would be a better outcome. Got it.

 

[NVA CANE]

If both kids were punished I wouldn't be as mad, but they weren't, just like the lacrosse player that got beat up by EJ was not punished.

If you instigate a fight and get your *** kicked, you should not be absolved of responsibility. That's what seems to be happening in these cases and it's bull**** whether it involves a football player or not.

 

[NVA CANE]

Can we get the victims name please. I'd like to know who this ***** is.

 

[The Franchise]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

What is your background in criminal law? You're speaking authoritatively on the subject, so you must be involved in the system. To my knowledge, the victim doesn't decide whether charges are filed or not. The State does.

 

[Rdcane]

If both kids were punished I wouldn't be as mad, but they weren't, just like the lacrosse player that got beat up by EJ was not punished.

If you instigate a fight and get your *** kicked, you should not be absolved of responsibility. That's what seems to be happening in these cases and it's bull**** whether it involves a football player or not.

My drunk father in law attacked me repeatedly, each time I ducked away or pushed him off me, and I finally kicked his *** after he tried to stab me with pliers. Since I had no marks on me and he had a bloody nose etc, the police arrested and charged me. No joke, if you win the fight you will be the one charged. They basically said I should have ran away or something.

 

[Gables]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

 

[dk72]

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

What is your background in criminal law? You're speaking authoritatively on the subject, so you must be involved in the system. To my knowledge, the victim doesn't decide whether charges are filed or not. The State does.

No, the state does not in many cases. Think of all the cases where someone (such as a spouse) gets hit and it's in the news and you see the line "the victim chose not to file charges."

 

[Rdcane]

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

What is your background in criminal law? You're speaking authoritatively on the subject, so you must be involved in the system. To my knowledge, the victim doesn't decide whether charges are filed or not. The State does.

No, the state does not in many cases. Think of all the cases where someone (such as a spouse) gets hit and it's in the news and you see the line "the victim chose not to file charges."

In domestic battery cases the victim may request for the state to drop the charges, but it's up to the state to decide whether to move forward or not.

 

[whoopingcane]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

That was me, you jerk. Jesus, I was completely blindsided. The last thing I remember was telling my buddy how Elizabeth Berkely looked way better than Gina Gershon in Showgirls, then BAM! Lights out.

 

[dk72]

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

What is your background in criminal law? You're speaking authoritatively on the subject, so you must be involved in the system. To my knowledge, the victim doesn't decide whether charges are filed or not. The State does.

No, the state does not in many cases. Think of all the cases where someone (such as a spouse) gets hit and it's in the news and you see the line "the victim chose not to file charges."

In domestic battery cases the victim may request for the state to drop the charges, but it's up to the state to decide whether to move forward or not.

They can, and in many domestic violence cases they do because they feel the victim is too scared to press charges. However, in many other cases, and still some domestic violence cases, if the victim refuses to press charges, the DA feels that taking the case is not worth their time or effort, especially if they can't count on the victim's cooperation.

 

[Gables]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

That was me, you jerk. Jesus, I was completely blindsided. The last thing I remember was telling my buddy how Elizabeth Berkely looked way better than Gina Gershon in Showgirls, then BAM! Lights out.

My favorite part was when the Haitian kitchen staff came out to cheer me, as I grabbed you by the back of the neck and repeatedly slammed your face into one of the concrete pillars.

 

[whoopingcane]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

That was me, you jerk. Jesus, I was completely blindsided. The last thing I remember was telling my buddy how Elizabeth Berkely looked way better than Gina Gershon in Showgirls, then BAM! Lights out.

My favorite part was when the Haitian kitchen staff came out to cheer me, as I grabbed you by the back of the neck and repeatedly slammed your face into one of the concrete pillars.

Man, the way I got beat down, you would have thought I was talking about Gina being upstaged by Jennifer Tilly in that weird hostage movie.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

So he didn't want to press charges, yet brought it up to the school to get AQM suspended...........the "victim" sounds like a real C U N T

So getting tossed in jail would be a better outcome. Got it.

No, taking your beating like a man would've been a better outcome. AQM would still be playing.

 

[MIA42178]

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

So he didn't want to press charges, yet brought it up to the school to get AQM suspended...........the "victim" sounds like a real C U N T

So getting tossed in jail would be a better outcome. Got it.

Either or? Yes. The criminal justice system would've been a far better outcome.
The burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt.
Having prosecuted and defended hundreds if not thousands of cases of battery, I can tell you most prosecutors wouldn't have charged that. If so, it would've been a misdemeanor. He'd probably have gotten pti at worse and the record expunged.
IF charged, no prosecutor would want to be in front of a jury with the I saw my child get hit w a door defense.

So yes. Kicking this young man out of school at the hands of no one w a law degree making the decision. That is far worse.

 

[MemphisCanes]

If both kids were punished I wouldn't be as mad, but they weren't, just like the lacrosse player that got beat up by EJ was not punished.

If you instigate a fight and get your *** kicked, you should not be absolved of responsibility. That's what seems to be happening in these cases and it's bull**** whether it involves a football player or not.

What exactly happened? How do we know the other kid instigated the fight?

 

[eliteproxy]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

the key here was. you didn't try to hide what happened.. or lie to them . (not saying AQM did) but when "conflicting stories" pops in the picture you are looked at as someone who will do this again.

 

[The Franchise]

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.

What is your background in criminal law? You're speaking authoritatively on the subject, so you must be involved in the system. To my knowledge, the victim doesn't decide whether charges are filed or not. The State does.

No, the state does not in many cases. Think of all the cases where someone (such as a spouse) gets hit and it's in the news and you see the line "the victim chose not to file charges."

So you're authoritative stance on the subject at hand is based on a couple anecdotal stories you saw in the news? Thanks.

 

[hoops156]

If both kids were punished I wouldn't be as mad, but they weren't, just like the lacrosse player that got beat up by EJ was not punished.

If you instigate a fight and get your *** kicked, you should not be absolved of responsibility. That's what seems to be happening in these cases and it's bull**** whether it involves a football player or not.

What exactly happened? How do we know the other kid instigated the fight?

Someone said he did even though thst person doesn't know much more than u or I.

 

[Gables]

As I posted in the WEZ, I put a dude in an ambulance outside the Mahoney cafeteria my junior year. He was a mouthy **** who started with me, but I busted him up pretty good (could've exceeded simple battery). All I had to do was talk to a few deans and go on UM probation for a semester. Suspension from school was never even discussed.

It's unreal this guy gets a year suspension for a fight, and even more mindboggling that his fate would be in the hands of larval pillowbiters like the ones talking down to people in this thread.

the key here was. you didn't try to hide what happened.. or lie to them . (not saying AQM did) but when "conflicting stories" pops in the picture you are looked at as someone who will do this again.

I told the Dean to his face that I'd do it again given the same circumstances.