AQM give me facts

[MIA42178]

That's a real b! Tch *** call.. just for a fight. And why does the student council get to make that call.. aren't administrative people getting paid big bucks to make that decision

I read the other dude slammed door knocking over AQM's child. Then, like any father would do, AQM punched the guy.

If that is all that AQM did, I doubt that he would have been suspended. I have heard it said that AQM "beat the *** out of him...." So accounts vary. A couple of problems we have here are that much of what we hear is slanted one way or the other, and another is that people believe what they prefer to believe.

Don't word smith. He kicked another grown mans *** for slamming a door into his child.

Assume that the average kid on the student council has an IQ twenty to thirty points higher than yours and is MUCH less biased on this issue. Both probably correct, although I really can't be certain about the relative IQs. Then add the fact that they listened to testimony from both kids and from witnesses and that they are more familiar than you are with the student code of conduct and with general standards of life on campus. Then admit to yourself that much of your picture of what happened involves a large measure of reliance on hearsay supplemented by your own imagination.

What does "hearsay" mean?

 

[Gatorhater]

That's a real b! Tch *** call.. just for a fight. And why does the student council get to make that call.. aren't administrative people getting paid big bucks to make that decision

I read the other dude slammed door knocking over AQM's child. Then, like any father would do, AQM punched the guy.

If that is all that AQM did, I doubt that he would have been suspended. I have heard it said that AQM "beat the *** out of him...." So accounts vary. A couple of problems we have here are that much of what we hear is slanted one way or the other, and another is that people believe what they prefer to believe.

That statement presupposes a just perfect system with prefect, just judge and jury. Carried to its logical conclusion, "I doubt the ***** would have killed all those Jews if they didn't deserve it." Whoever sits as judge and jury have prejudices and agendas --everyone does, except those self-proclaim perfect one of elite academia. If AQM used excessive force beyond what was reasonable under the circumstances, then he deserves punishment. I can only assume you think any thing a politician you like does must have been necessary and any act of one you don't like must be an atrocity. You cannot judge guilt by the punishment; you judge the people in charge by the just correlation of the two. Your statement is classic dictatorship lingo. Just thought you should know.

 

[Gatorhater]

Did anyone even end up in the hospital. .. **** cause to kick a guy out of school for a fight is pretty harsh mane... no weapons.. really??? Smh

A fight would get you kicked out of even a private high school like Gulliver or Ransom Everglades. It would also get you kicked out of an top-level school like MIT or an Ivy. Life on a college campus is lived on a much higher level than life on the street. Attending a good college is not a right; it is an honor and a privilege. Students worked hard to get in, excelling in high school and doing well on admissions tests. If you mess up academically or break the rules, you're out.

I would tell you that you should be ****ing ashamed of yourself, but in your world this drivel makes sense to you. An honor and a privilege huh? You are not special son. As much as your parents told you that you were, the cold reality is nobody gives a **** about you outside of your mommy and daddy. Your generation is ruining the educational system and this country in general. Bunch of sniveling, snot nose brats with an entitlement issue. Administration and educators have brain washed you into thinking they can't be questioned and from the sound of it you are falling right the **** in line aint you, you rat *******? News flash, the school you attend would be NOTHING, I mean NOTHING without the football program. Reading the **** you and your rat pack friends post makes me embarrassed to be an alumnus.

Preachin'

Amen.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ******* idiots here, I swear.

 

[imlive365]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

 

[LA'Cane818]

So everyone blames the Uni, and no one places any blame on the player at all? The penalty was too stiff but the player knew what could happen to him. He shouldn't have been in the predicament. AQM would be in all kinds of trouble if he was in the nfl. I just wish our school would look the other way like they do with other coaches' performances

You come at my kid and you better hope you have more than a punk *** student honor code behind you. AQM went gentle on the kid if you ask me.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

 

[eliteproxy]

I was suspended for 1 month for a fight at UM

The only reason it was not a semester
1. We walked out of the dorms and accross the IM field
2. We both told the same story "it was both our faults etc ex"


As soon as they start to hear conflicting stories and they catch you in a small lie you are ****ed
And yes we don't know exactly how the story went and the kid thing could be blown up but the fact is to suspend a st udent for an entire semester for fighting is not something new. He just didn't get the SEC treatment.

 

[eliteproxy]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

I think that comes from the other kid . He was most likely asked if he wants to press charges and he said no.

 

[Peter Ariz]

So who is the kid that got hit?

some have said hes a walk on football player and others (barry Jackson) said he was not a football player so in the end who the **** knows. JCanes said he heard the name and didn't recognize it though so he seems to actually know more of the specifics

He was a football player. Was not on the roster, but he practiced.

 

[swdp12]

So who is the kid that got hit?

some have said hes a walk on football player and others (barry Jackson) said he was not a football player so in the end who the **** knows. JCanes said he heard the name and didn't recognize it though so he seems to actually know more of the specifics

He was a football player. Was not on the roster, but he practiced.

Well then he's as big of a ***** as this rat pack on the board. A grown man who calls himself an athlete gets into an altercation, gets his *** kicked and then cries to the admin and the resident council of dorks. They should all be banned and AQM should be given an award for exposing the ******ry at the university.

 

[LUcanesfan]

I still don't understand how we lost a starter in favor of a guy that was a walk-on. It sounds like the guy that was beat up has more juice in his corner than we were led to believe. If that's the case, then AQM was doomed from the start.

I guess since that we're still in Donna's era where it's academics over football, this makes perfect sense.

If anything, AQM should have got at least got 2 games, maybe up to 4 games for his behavior, but in the words of Bobby Bowden, "It's not like he shot the President."

 

[The Franchise]

Cops didn't arrest him for the same reason they don't arrest firemen who go into burning buildings to save people. AQM rescued his child from a savage by merely subduing said savage.

If AQM really wanted to hurt that child abusing fiend he would have beaten him unmerciful. Instead, he merely subdued the attacker allowing that poor innocent child to escape imminent peril. In other words, a hero.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Did anyone even end up in the hospital. .. **** cause to kick a guy out of school for a fight is pretty harsh mane... no weapons.. really??? Smh

A fight would get you kicked out of even a private high school like Gulliver or Ransom Everglades. It would also get you kicked out of an top-level school like MIT or an Ivy. Life on a college campus is lived on a much higher level than life on the street. Attending a good college is not a right; it is an honor and a privilege. Students worked hard to get in, excelling in high school and doing well on admissions tests. If you mess up academically or break the rules, you're out.

This has to be a troll. No one can be this arrogant.

Seriously. Rashard Casey beat up an off duty police officer when he was the QB at Penn State but was welcomed back with open arms by Paterno. They didn't let students decide the fate of their players.

Based on everything that's come out over the last few years, it doesn't sound like Ped State cared about the malfeasance and twisted actions of its players or coaches.

 

[Canesbball]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ******* idiots here, I swear.

Hey ****, how bout you stop assuming its a stretch to think our admin sucks **** and has it out for the football team. Nothing they've done has ever shown otherwise.


Lol @ dumb**** internet heroes. My god we got some serious Kansas City ******s running rampant in here.


What are you gonna do about it? We support out players.

 

[Weslingg]

Here is my qualm with how this was handled. If he was charged and subsequently convicted, what would he be looking at? 3-4 game suspension at max. To suspend a kid for an entire season is outside the realm of reasonableness. When viewing the discipline this fact should have been taken into account. A regular student losing a semester is not near as damning as a football player losing the fall semester. I don't believe we would have had a student uprising if he had been suspended 3 games.

To the kid on here that says that college life is above the life on the streets, you sir are a joke. The poster that called you an RA hit the nail on the head.

To the kid that stated this senior/seniors is/are highly trained in hearing major cases, you sir are a joke.

 

[sebastian91]

This thread is full of win.

 

[dk72]

That's a real b! Tch *** call.. just for a fight. And why does the student council get to make that call.. aren't administrative people getting paid big bucks to make that decision

The university wants very much to maintain a safe, comfortable environment, in which students can learn and enjoy life on campus. Acts of violence against students are considered extremely serious. AQM deserves fair treatment, but if they think he beat up a student, he's gone at least for a semester. To have avoided expulsion, he would have had to convince them that a repetition was extremely unlikely. He evidently did that, a fact that speaks well for him.

It is BS. He was defending his child

The BS is that you take such rumors as truth. YOu don't know, I don't know, what happened. So pretending that some rumor of one side of the story is THE story is based on nothing more than what you want to be true. Was his suspension unfair? Maybe. We don't know the details. Was his suspension fair? Maybe. We don't know the details.

 

[dk72]

Christ, this board is a mess.

Truth is we don't know the specifics of what went on.

What we do know is that not only was he punished, but his appeal was denied. Now, sure, everyone has biases, and sometimes people are wrongly convicted of crimes, but it's a stretch to assume that everyone on the disciplinary board has the same bias against football players, and that they railroaded AQM and wrongly convicted and punished him.

That's close to paranoia, black-helicopter territory.

What's worse is all these dumb**** internet heroes pretending they're members of Anonymous or 4chan or some ****, out to come to AQM's rescue and terrorize the folks on the committee that punished him.

Bunch of ****ing idiots here, I swear.

Nobody would he coming to his rescue if the other person involved was also punished and wasn't allowed to be able to just graduate like nothing happened.

Again, since you don't know what the other person did or didn't do, how the eff can you be so sure that the other guy needed to be punished by UM?

The disciplinary committee heard all the facts; you didn't.

Did the police hear all of the facts when deciding that AQM's alleged conduct didn't rise to the level of an arrest?

Crazy that this fight was so serious that it warranted being kicked out of school completely, yet did not warrant being arrested. Can you explain what would account for such a discrepancy?

The victim gets to decide if he even wants to press charges. Maybe he chose not to. Again, you have no more info than I do, or anyone else outside of the people involved, the witnesses, and those who heard the case on the Council.