All in on Mateer (Boomed and Sooned)

[mirvin88]

Cam made wow plays and was a very good qb but we don’t need all that qb to be successful. With our OL time will be there so progressions are easy to make and you’ll have a good rb. A good qb with good wheels will feast here.

The amount of times we had turnovers or drives end on third down with guys wide open for check downs was frustrating. The GT fourth quarter alone was criminal what they were allowed to do. If the handful of check downs were hit we win. On top of that a lot of the sacks were caused by not throwing it away or checking it down, living to fight another down. I’m not crapping on Cam im just saying we don’t that good of a talent to be successful. A better defense / scheme alone takes away a good bit of the pressure the offense / Cam had to deal with . There was no wiggle room. I do think Cam got caught up in the Heisman hype and was trying to play for highlights / yards.

100% we can take a step back at qb and still be a better team next season.

 

[dk72]

You can’t bring that stuff up because people think you’re crapping on the guy but it’s just the truth. It’s obvious to anyone that’s been around football. When his film gets broke down scouts / Gm’s will see a lot of warts. I think some of the same issues are there for Shadeur. I loved Cam as a player but I also know he didn’t get to this level until he got here. It was a perfect marriage. Both sides needed each other.

I agree Cam has a lot of things to clean up in the NFL if he's going to make it long term. The cool, calm thing is great, but the view that he can make anything work at any time instead of being a little more conservative has to be tempered. Not that they are the same overall, but Mahomes had a lot of that too, and matured and gambled less after a few seasons. Hopefully Cam does the same.

 

[RVACane]

D$ not asking for any names but what you think is the timeline on finding a new QB sorry if it's been answered

Generally, you need to @ him with his name DMoney if you are asking him a question in a post not responding to him otherwise he might not see it.

 

[RVACane]

Yeah he gone from wsu

 

[Uncut Co Cane]

Generally, you need to @ him with his name DMoney if you are asking him a question in a post not responding to him otherwise he might not see it.

Okay gotcha bro...I normally don't post a lot just enjoy the content on here.

 

[RVACane]

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I see a few people saying Arnold isn’t a bad second option but it should be telling that Oklahoma is letting him walk because they think Mateer is that much better.

maybe but it may be as simple as Arbuckle wants his guy. My assumption is that Mateer goes to Oklahoma so if that’s the case Arnold should be in the mix.

 

[RVACane]

Okay gotcha bro...I normally don't post a lot just enjoy the content on here.

@DMoney any idea on a timeline for bringing in a new QB?

 

[dk72]

Ah, WSU is banking on the love discount.

 

[Torocane]

Yeah I brought it up in the “is Guidry getting scapegoated” thread. It’s undeniable we won 10 games because of Cam. However, I think it’s also true that we didn’t play yesterday in large part because of Cam. Not that shocking- our season depended pretty much entirely on Ward being superhuman, and when he was merely an ordinary QB as he was against GT, the team wasn’t good enough to make up for it.

There has been a little bit of a misleading narrative that GT had some genius gameplan and tried to limit UMs possessions and burn clock. They didn’t do anything different than any other team. UM had 10 possessions in the GT game (compared to 8 possessions against FSU). Of those 10 possessions we had
3 TDs (1 missed 2 pt conversion)
1 FG
3 Turnovers on downs
1 Fumble
2 punts

That is 4 turnovers and 2 punts. That means 60% of our possessions resulted in no points and giving the ball back to GT.

GT didnt run an exotic defense that stumped Cam, they were giving him plenty of opportunities for checkdowns but that day he just didn’t play well. If he hits those check downs in the 4th, the Cuse game is basically irrelevant in terms of making the playoffs.

Even though it’s highly doubtful we get Mateer, I think he might be a better “college qb” than Ward. That’s just because a true dual threat QB is a cheat code. Ward is a phenomenal scrambling qb but he preferred to keep a play alive and wait for a wr to get open deep downfield. Mateer just pulls the ball down and picks up 10 yards. Wards style is better for the nfl. Mateers style gets him killed in the nfl but is a backbreaker to defenses in college.

I see a few people saying Arnold isn’t a bad second option but it should be telling that Oklahoma is letting him walk because they think Mateer is that much better.

I don't know if Arnold is a good option or not.
But to say he us not because OU is letting him walk is not necessary fair. Some thing could've been said about Ohio St letting McCord walk last year.

 

[canes_aaron]

Watching his highlights, it’s like the white version of Cam Ward lol

 

[htownkidd]

Watching his highlights, it’s like the white version of Cam Ward lol

 

[ZeroBeachCane3]

Watching his highlights, it’s like the white version of Cam Ward lol

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

Watching his highlights, it’s like the white version of Cam Ward lol

 

[Hurracanes]

 

[PRcane787]

Give him Cams deal. Close this ******* deal Wario

 

[CaneBear0207]

What happened?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Sad that a good solid post was wasted on a guy all but signed, sealed and delivered to Oklahoma.

 

[GrozDozer]

What happened?

Dennis Smith crashed his car into Mateers house

 

[TheOriginalCane]

As good as Ben Arbuckle is, Cam wasn't a Heisman contender until he arrived in Miami.

 

[HurricanePhilly]

Dennis Smith crashed his car into Mateers house

Was there a ...Mateerial witness?