Alabama and Racism

[Cane Dynasty]

HOW THE FVCK DID I MISS THIS!?

 

[Sabetta]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I'm as independent as they come but what's become clear this election cycle is that Libs can stereotype whoever they want and think nothing of it.

What do you mean they can stereotype whoever they want? Like Bannon?

What does Bannon have to do with it? Isn't a bigot a bigot? Not to libs who try to squash any other opinion other than their own and then spew bullsh!t like the opee's comments. You're as much of a problem as the white supremacists if you justify BS generalizations because someone hurt your snowflake feelings.

I agree the concept of one party (or candidate) being more racist than the other is nonsense. But your use of the term "libs" suggests the "opee's comments" reflect a liberal opinion. Is that a generalization you're making? And are you saying the OP's opinion would not come from a republican?

I based it on the context of his comments. Making a generalization based upon clearly partisan comments is fair and apples and bananas compared to what he did in terms of offensiveness if that's what you're trying to say. Whether a republican would say those things, I'd say no but that doesn't mean that pubs aren't for equal rights or racist.

 

[Ropa]

No matter your skin color. If you live anywhere on this planet where a persons basic human rights; freedom, justice and equality are denied and you don't speak up and stand up against those that opposed that right; you are just as guilty of being a racist as those that are on the front line publicly denying those people of their right. This includes those apart of that race as well as those outside that race. Being silent makes you just as guilty; looking the other way makes you just as guilty; fleeing your own country and leaving others behind makes you just as guilty; and having a few friends of the victimized race for your conscious therapy but still afraid to speak up and stand up makes you just as guilty. These kinds of people are in existence throughout the Canes fan base as well as others. So clean your own house up before you try to clean others or try to tell someone that their house needs cleaning!

This is the TRUTH. Everyone needs to quit with the BS!!!

 

[RVACane]

No matter your skin color. If you live anywhere on this planet where a persons basic human rights; freedom, justice and equality are denied and you don't speak up and stand up against those that opposed that right; you are just as guilty of being a racist as those that are on the front line publicly denying those people of their right. This includes those apart of that race as well as those outside that race. Being silent makes you just as guilty; looking the other way makes you just as guilty; fleeing your own country and leaving others behind makes you just as guilty; and having a few friends of the victimized race for your conscious therapy but still afraid to speak up and stand up makes you just as guilty. These kinds of people are in existence throughout the Canes fan base as well as others. So clean your own house up before you try to clean others or try to tell someone that their house needs cleaning!

I've spoken up against discrimination on this board but I'm sorry, someone who doesn't hold racist views but who doesn't speak up might be accused of cowardice but you can't just equate them or people fleeing their country as being on a racist par with the neo ****'s perpetrating hate crimes. That's extreme ludicrousy.

 

[Sabetta]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

 

[imurcane]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

I love conversations like this!

We are treading on West Endzone territory. Ill take a chance and ask anyways!

Liberal agenda- Do you care if a man ***** a man? Do you care if a woman licks another woman's pusseur? Do you think the government should prevent them from marrying?

Women have the choice to abort or not . . . Should the government say No because it is a life? I really do wrestle with this issue on a theoretical level. When does life begin?

Ill stop with those 2 questions.

 

[RVACane]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

I think your hero lost the popular vote by close to 2,500,000 votes. Most of the country voted for his opponent, who I felt no choice but to vote for, but who I also do not like. I hope they fix the system going forward so that millions of votes for one candidate, regardless of party, aren't rendered useless.

 

[RVACane]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

I love conversations like this!

We are treading on West Endzone territory. Ill take a chance and ask anyways!

Liberal agenda- Do you care if a man ****s a man? Do you care if a woman licks another woman's pusseur? Do you think the government should prevent them from marrying?

Women have the choice to abort or not . . . Should the government say No because it is a life? I really do wrestle with this issue on a theoretical level. When does life begin?

Ill stop with those 2 questions.

Let em be ghey and happy and married. If abortion is illegal, it's placing religion in the mix for one and it also means that people with money will just go to Canada to have procedures while poor people have to suffer.

Sorry... That wasn't for me. All this right wing angry white male, "we are tired of it" victim shît has resulted in craziness out there. My elementary school daughter's school was painted with swastikas just for starters.

 

[RVACane]

HOW THE FVCK DID I MISS THIS!?

This is YUGE. You missed it BIGLY. Now go make a lot of money.

 

[Sabetta]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

I think your hero lost the popular vote by close to 2,500,000 votes. Most of the country voted for his opponent, who I felt no choice but to vote for, but who I also do not like. I hope they fix the system going forward so that millions of votes for one candidate, regardless of party, aren't rendered useless.

My hero? Thank you for proving my point. I don't agree with the opee so I must be a trump supporter. Not supporting the liberal agenda doesn't mean that you're a Trump supporter. It also doesn't mean that I'm a pub.

The popular vote "point" is the dumbest ******* thing I've ever heard. Campaigns would run a little bit differently if the popular vote counted don't ya think? The senate, house, governorships and state legislatures are overwhelmingly republican. Half of house democrats are from 3 states. Thank God for the Electoral college.

 

[The Iceman]

I remember the good ole days when Jacory had to shut down his twitter account.

I remember QB Ryan Collins get treated badly too.

Miami is a racist place too despite diversity. Not sure why many try to deny it.

But i do hate seeing so many FL players playing for schools like Bama, Auburn and Ole Miss.

 

[BadCompany]

I always get a kick out of fans trying to tell the players at Bama how racist it is at Bama although they never played there or maybe never even lived there.

Like the poster said above. SFL is full of racism and bigotry across all lines. It isn't magically better at Miami.

 

[prinmemo]

There is more racism in Alabama than SFL. Anyone that says otherwise is bull****ting.

 

[CaneFan79]

No matter your skin color. If you live anywhere on this planet where a persons basic human rights; freedom, justice and equality are denied and you don't speak up and stand up against those that opposed that right; you are just as guilty of being a racist as those that are on the front line publicly denying those people of their right. This includes those apart of that race as well as those outside that race. Being silent makes you just as guilty; looking the other way makes you just as guilty; fleeing your own country and leaving others behind makes you just as guilty; and having a few friends of the victimized race for your conscious therapy but still afraid to speak up and stand up makes you just as guilty. These kinds of people are in existence throughout the Canes fan base as well as others. So clean your own house up before you try to clean others or try to tell someone that their house needs cleaning!

In an unrelated thread, I posted this video of Urban Meyer a few years back:

[video=youtube;xgqQshESm8s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgqQshESm8s[/video]

Racism? To me, this is Urban being a complete racist. Funny, people (namely dim $ucknuts) describe this exchange as Urban standing up for his player, yet he clearly states if it were "his son" they would be "going at it." Guess any promise to Deonte Thomas' family (Thomas was black) about being "a father to him" while he was at UF, stopped at Urban's white blood and that a black player is not worth him fighting Fowler. Also note that Urban creates a strawman racist argument @ :30 second point. Thomas' offense? He had criticized the play of white QB Brantley (part of the large UF player/booster Brantley family), that's it. Urban immediately goes down the "Oh some of my best friends are black" bigot defense by talking about Thomas not being in trouble, good student, etc. HELLO, THAT WAS NEVER IN QUESTION!!! Urban wouldn't have said anything similar about a white players conduct AND WE KNOW IT!!! Total racist comments by Meyer, yet this guy is praised all over CIS.

As far as going anywhere around the world, to fight for human rights, be careful. Bleeding heart liberals (mainly moneyed whites) will try to get you into all manner of bad situations. Take this from one of the presidential debates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYoziyaLFYs

Trust me, there are kids all over the world like that boy in Aleppo, but they are also here in our own country, wounded in senseless violence across the USA.

Please also note that people like Martha Raddatz take on the cause clèbre of the time. Note how the outrage after Boko Harem's atrocities died down after everyone had their 5 minutes of instagram fame? Notice how the LRA and Kony and the Ugandan Civil War gets no media attention? How we forget the Rwandan massacre by the Hutu? Yeah, leftist media outrage of racism is very selective.

Your statement may make a great point, but carrying out what it dictates, that is whole other ballgame.

 

[Moro]

@RVA and CanesFan - Martin Luther King, Jr said, "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy". Politicians deliver the same policy regardless of party liberal or conservative via the media and therefore herd the public in the same direction by sending that message over and over. When the people are fed up with the BS the people move without a head they call it "grass roots". Patrick Henry's opponents urged caution and patience until the crown replied to Congress' latest petition for reconciliation. However, one of the first movements that united this country was lead by a quote in a speech he delivered "Give me liberty, or give me death!". If you are serious about change you can't run from the problem, you have to stand and fight. If you lose your life in the process then that's just part of it. The next person in line must step up until change is brought forth!

 

[cooks002]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

Actual quote from a recent team leader: "I don't give a ****, man. I just wanna win and ball out ($) in the L."

Whoever said that is not a leader.

You don't know the context. He was asked how he felt about Golden's binder and the "motivation" tactics.

Ok, I guess I don't get how that relates to the OP then.

 

[Billy D Williams]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

Americans love applying labels to describe people and their beliefs, when in fact most peoples beliefs are a combination of what would be considered liberal, conservative and independents. Secondly, while you are correct the country voted and choose another President, you are wrong to imply or believe it was a majority. The loser in the election actually won the majority of the popular vote, but came up short where it mattered, Electoral College. When any oppressed person/group speaks up there is always rebuttal by those unaffected and of advantage. Put aside your disdain for people of color and allow your mind to be unbiased and answer this question of racism: Had AA, in conjunction with Jews, white peoples and Politicos with foresight not spoke up against racist policies and laws, would things have changed if we had remained silent and fearful? Tell me why you deserve the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, but not people of color?

 

[Dwinstitles]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

I thought this was a message board for the Canes?

Right. In line with that premise, OP makes a point that local kids should stay home and become Canes, while highlighting the irony of local black kids flocking to one of, if not the most racist state in the union.

As a result, cane fans and people with zero ties to the state of Alabama, who probably couldn't point to it on a map, are incensed because OP believes there are racist in the stands cheering for black athletes they wouldn't want joining them at a family dinner.

I said it before and i'll say it again. If you're not racist or personally from the state of Alabama, then you shouldn't feel provoked to dispute anything the OP said. Why white men take offense to the concept that there may be racists or bigots in the stands at the University of Alabama is beyond me.

White men just heard for the last wo years of this election cycle that were all racist because we don't fall in line with the liberal agenda. It's really that simple. What your saying would be like me calling whatever ethnicity lazy (fill in the ethnic slur) and then telling you (who would be of that ethnicity) not to get offended because you're not lazy. I also love you telling people what to and what not to get offended by. This is a tactic right out of the liberal playbook. Glad you're not making the rules and the country voted and agrees.

Yea i hate that ****

All my ni99@z i *** with are 99.9 minority either black or hispanic. And people making it like if u voted for trump u racist. Thats the media and that brainwash not thinkin for urself bs.

 

[LuCane]

As a white boy growing up on NW 189th Street in Carol City in the 1970s, I had friends who were African-American, ******, and Ecuadorian and understoood that America was a melting pot. I loved Miami. It was paradise. As an adult in a Trump America I see how far we have to go. I know the Republican loving Cubans will bash me and that is understandable, but Alabama bothers me the most. I see these tie-wearing, white shirt donning, racist from the worst state in the union cheering on their "boys" and claiming superiority above the rest of America. 99% of the fans wouldn't be caught dead at a party with the players from their Crimson Tide team, yet they cheer them on like they are at a **** fight. Maybe I am being over-dramatic, but it is kinda strange that the most racist state in America relishes the fact that their 'boys' rule the world of college football. I hope the kids from the 305/954/561 can see past this hypocrisy and return the U to the glory of the past.

Actual quote from a recent team leader: "I don't give a ****, man. I just wanna win and ball out ($) in the L."

Whoever said that is not a leader.

You don't know the context. He was asked how he felt about Golden's binder and the "motivation" tactics.

Ok, I guess I don't get how that relates to the OP then.

People are expecting too much from 18-22 year olds in terms of how critically they think through things - especially these broader social issues.

 

[CaneFan79]

@RVA and CanesFan - Martin Luther King, Jr said, "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy". Politicians deliver the same message regardless of party liberal or conservative via the media and therefore herd the public in the same direction by sending that message over and over. When the people are fed up with the BS the people move without a head they call it "grass roots". One of the first movements that united this country was lead by a quote delivered by Patrick Henry "Give me liberty, or give me death!". If you are serious about change you can't run from the problem, you have to stand and fight. If you lose your life in the process then that's just part of it. The next person in line must step up until change is brought forth!

You realize Patrick Henry didn't give liberty to the 75 slaves or so he owned, right?