2018 Nigel Bethel, Jr.

[simplycanes]

Switch Dalvin Cook's jersey and Al Golden beats Jimbo three straight. Sign Bridgewater and Cooper and Golden never gets that chance because Randy's still the coach.

Or they could have been like Calais Campbell and Olivier Vernon-- cream of the crop players that wasted their talents here.

Cook, Bridgewater and Cooper made smart decisions. The results speak for themselves. I don't want kids to start making bad decisions. I want Miami to become the good decision.

I am not sure you two are talking about precisely the same thing. There is no question we have sucked on the field, the numbers bear that out. We have to improve, stack chips and let the cream of the crop know that if they are a first round talent, they will in fact become a first rounder, not a third or fourth rounder. That is UM's part of the bargain. No question there. Hopefully, by spending the money on Mark Richt and his staff, building the IPF, etc. instead of hiring a "up and coming" staff and putting up a few tent poles, UM is demonstrating its commitment to that relationship.

On the other hand, I do believe that a lot of these kids and the community have fallen down on UM. Through all those 30 for 30s, etc. what's forgotten about the U, is we were the place where it was OK to take inner-city Miami to places like ND, Michigan, Gainesville, Texas, etc. and bloody their noses with it. The rest of these programs are piling on after the fact and these handlers are allowing history to be forgotten for their own gains. That part is wrong. There should be some sense or responsibility to put on for the City and fight for the U, not cut and run where the dollars are bigger and winning was easier. I won't speak for him, but that's Swags point. Unless UM does every single thing right-- offers early, calls daily, recruits teammates, etc.-- they are taken to task unmercifully. On the other hand, some OOS or upstate hotshot rolls into town, craps on UM and slow plays a kids commitment and all is OK. That ain't right either.

Shalala shut down the old Miami program ages ago.

You cannot blame kids for doing what was the smart thing for themselves.

This school hired three straight incompetent corches.

As for your bolded comment, it os what it is. We ain't a big state program. We have access to the best recruits in the country, but we also take the competitive environment as it is. All in all, it's good for us, but it ain't perfect. No sense in crying over it or blaming kids. If UM does what it should, we'll be okay.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I hate that expression, "It is what it is." That's the death knell from a defeated mindset. It is what it is, until it's not, then you're left in the dark.

I agree UM didn't evolve properly and believed that the do more with less lightening they caught in the bottle under Butch would work again. Hence the poor hires, but it did very little to fight back at those who spoke out and worked against it. That was an equally big mistake.

It appears the tide is turning and it may soon become that those who are out to enrich themselves by working against UM find themselves in a bad spot. One can hope.

To be clear, kids are free to do what's best for them. Hopefully, that becomes UM once again, but in some cases when it's not, it should carry risks to those who went out of their way to damage us. You can't sit idly and dismiss that as being, "what it is."

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[Ethnicsands]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

I'd ask Bethel if that's his thinking too. If he says yes then I pull the offer immediately.

The kid has barely even played any CB in his life, and he gets what should be a dream offer from a NC marquee P5 program. Now, instead of being excited and grateful, his coach is talking like his mouth's a diseased pookyak. These local corches and advisers, for the most part, are maggots.

What are the other offers that Bethel has? He claims to have 10 other offers. Are they all marquee level P5 offers?

That's exactly what I would do. I'd ask to visit Bethel and corch together. I'd ask him in front of the corch if that's his position. If he says yes, I rescind the offer and wish him the best. If he says no, then I ask him to leave the room and let that corch know he's persona non grata until he retracts his statement publicly and apologizes for lying.

Even that is wrong.

If UM's staff is who you want them to be, they don't get distracted by dumb chit in print, and they don't pick real or invented media wars or ego wars with locals, because nothing good can ever come out of it.

Just note it, don't respond, and decide for yourself what the kid thinks based on talking to him. Want to talk to the coach, do it privately. But no need to be right on any of this chit. It's June. (Sign of the Times.) You win on NSD.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Switch Dalvin Cook's jersey and Al Golden beats Jimbo three straight. Sign Bridgewater and Cooper and Golden never gets that chance because Randy's still the coach.

Or they could have been like Calais Campbell and Olivier Vernon-- cream of the crop players that wasted their talents here.

Cook, Bridgewater and Cooper made smart decisions. The results speak for themselves. I don't want kids to start making bad decisions. I want Miami to become the good decision.

I am not sure you two are talking about precisely the same thing. There is no question we have sucked on the field, the numbers bear that out. We have to improve, stack chips and let the cream of the crop know that if they are a first round talent, they will in fact become a first rounder, not a third or fourth rounder. That is UM's part of the bargain. No question there. Hopefully, by spending the money on Mark Richt and his staff, building the IPF, etc. instead of hiring a "up and coming" staff and putting up a few tent poles, UM is demonstrating its commitment to that relationship.

On the other hand, I do believe that a lot of these kids and the community have fallen down on UM. Through all those 30 for 30s, etc. what's forgotten about the U, is we were the place where it was OK to take inner-city Miami to places like ND, Michigan, Gainesville, Texas, etc. and bloody their noses with it. The rest of these programs are piling on after the fact and these handlers are allowing history to be forgotten for their own gains. That part is wrong. There should be some sense or responsibility to put on for the City and fight for the U, not cut and run where the dollars are bigger and winning was easier. I won't speak for him, but that's Swags point. Unless UM does every single thing right-- offers early, calls daily, recruits teammates, etc.-- they are taken to task unmercifully. On the other hand, some OOS or upstate hotshot rolls into town, craps on UM and slow plays a kids commitment and all is OK. That ain't right either.

Shalala shut down the old Miami program ages ago.

You cannot blame kids for doing what was the smart thing for themselves.

This school hired three straight incompetent corches.

As for your bolded comment, it os what it is. We ain't a big state program. We have access to the best recruits in the country, but we also take the competitive environment as it is. All in all, it's good for us, but it ain't perfect. No sense in crying over it or blaming kids. If UM does what it should, we'll be okay.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I hate that expression, "It is what it is." That's the death knell from a defeated mindset. It is what it is, until it's not, then you're left in the dark.

I agree UM didn't evolve properly and believed that the do more with less lightening they caught in the bottle under Butch would work again. Hence the poor hires, but it did very little to fight back at those who spoke out and worked against it. That was an equally big mistake.

It appears the tide is turning and it may soon become that those who are out to enrich themselves by working against UM find themselves in a bad spot. One can hope.

To be clear, kids are free to do what's best for them. Hopefully, that becomes UM once again, but in some cases when it's not, it should carry risks to those who went out of their way to damage us. You can't sit idly and dismiss that as being, "what it is."

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Lie down with dogs, catch fleas.

You cannot silence the streets.

The expression works just fine. What you dislike is the reality, not the expresion.

Pick your battles, is another expression.

The goal is to win, not to be the loudest.

 

[Odin]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

Take out the fact that Miami is involved...how can you disagree with this logic? It's like you being interested in a chick and she tells you to kick rocks to go chase some other dude and then when she strikes out she comes running back to you. A kid who is a backup plan for a staff is also at increased risk for things like being processed. And I've had the fortune to be around Richt and know he doesn't really operate that way but still. How can you be mad at a kid for not accepting being treated like a backup plan? I doubt many people accept being treated that way in their day to day lives.

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

So why even go workout at a miami camp if you're only going to be ****ed if they offer you now,go camp at other camps and other staffs.

 

[simplycanes]

Or they could have been like Calais Campbell and Olivier Vernon-- cream of the crop players that wasted their talents here.

Cook, Bridgewater and Cooper made smart decisions. The results speak for themselves. I don't want kids to start making bad decisions. I want Miami to become the good decision.

I am not sure you two are talking about precisely the same thing. There is no question we have sucked on the field, the numbers bear that out. We have to improve, stack chips and let the cream of the crop know that if they are a first round talent, they will in fact become a first rounder, not a third or fourth rounder. That is UM's part of the bargain. No question there. Hopefully, by spending the money on Mark Richt and his staff, building the IPF, etc. instead of hiring a "up and coming" staff and putting up a few tent poles, UM is demonstrating its commitment to that relationship.

On the other hand, I do believe that a lot of these kids and the community have fallen down on UM. Through all those 30 for 30s, etc. what's forgotten about the U, is we were the place where it was OK to take inner-city Miami to places like ND, Michigan, Gainesville, Texas, etc. and bloody their noses with it. The rest of these programs are piling on after the fact and these handlers are allowing history to be forgotten for their own gains. That part is wrong. There should be some sense or responsibility to put on for the City and fight for the U, not cut and run where the dollars are bigger and winning was easier. I won't speak for him, but that's Swags point. Unless UM does every single thing right-- offers early, calls daily, recruits teammates, etc.-- they are taken to task unmercifully. On the other hand, some OOS or upstate hotshot rolls into town, craps on UM and slow plays a kids commitment and all is OK. That ain't right either.

Shalala shut down the old Miami program ages ago.

You cannot blame kids for doing what was the smart thing for themselves.

This school hired three straight incompetent corches.

As for your bolded comment, it os what it is. We ain't a big state program. We have access to the best recruits in the country, but we also take the competitive environment as it is. All in all, it's good for us, but it ain't perfect. No sense in crying over it or blaming kids. If UM does what it should, we'll be okay.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I hate that expression, "It is what it is." That's the death knell from a defeated mindset. It is what it is, until it's not, then you're left in the dark.

I agree UM didn't evolve properly and believed that the do more with less lightening they caught in the bottle under Butch would work again. Hence the poor hires, but it did very little to fight back at those who spoke out and worked against it. That was an equally big mistake.

It appears the tide is turning and it may soon become that those who are out to enrich themselves by working against UM find themselves in a bad spot. One can hope.

To be clear, kids are free to do what's best for them. Hopefully, that becomes UM once again, but in some cases when it's not, it should carry risks to those who went out of their way to damage us. You can't sit idly and dismiss that as being, "what it is."

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Lie down with dogs, catch fleas.

You cannot silence the streets.

The expression works just fine. What you dislike is the reality, not the expresion.

Pick your battles, is another expression.

The goal is to win, not to be the loudest.

Nah, expressions are created by and for those cannot accept reality is a place of constant change. The world spends very little time in equilibrium. If you believe otherwise you'll have the pleasure of watching it pass you by two times!

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[Ethnicsands]

I am not sure you two are talking about precisely the same thing. There is no question we have sucked on the field, the numbers bear that out. We have to improve, stack chips and let the cream of the crop know that if they are a first round talent, they will in fact become a first rounder, not a third or fourth rounder. That is UM's part of the bargain. No question there. Hopefully, by spending the money on Mark Richt and his staff, building the IPF, etc. instead of hiring a "up and coming" staff and putting up a few tent poles, UM is demonstrating its commitment to that relationship.

On the other hand, I do believe that a lot of these kids and the community have fallen down on UM. Through all those 30 for 30s, etc. what's forgotten about the U, is we were the place where it was OK to take inner-city Miami to places like ND, Michigan, Gainesville, Texas, etc. and bloody their noses with it. The rest of these programs are piling on after the fact and these handlers are allowing history to be forgotten for their own gains. That part is wrong. There should be some sense or responsibility to put on for the City and fight for the U, not cut and run where the dollars are bigger and winning was easier. I won't speak for him, but that's Swags point. Unless UM does every single thing right-- offers early, calls daily, recruits teammates, etc.-- they are taken to task unmercifully. On the other hand, some OOS or upstate hotshot rolls into town, craps on UM and slow plays a kids commitment and all is OK. That ain't right either.

Shalala shut down the old Miami program ages ago.

You cannot blame kids for doing what was the smart thing for themselves.

This school hired three straight incompetent corches.

As for your bolded comment, it os what it is. We ain't a big state program. We have access to the best recruits in the country, but we also take the competitive environment as it is. All in all, it's good for us, but it ain't perfect. No sense in crying over it or blaming kids. If UM does what it should, we'll be okay.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I hate that expression, "It is what it is." That's the death knell from a defeated mindset. It is what it is, until it's not, then you're left in the dark.

I agree UM didn't evolve properly and believed that the do more with less lightening they caught in the bottle under Butch would work again. Hence the poor hires, but it did very little to fight back at those who spoke out and worked against it. That was an equally big mistake.

It appears the tide is turning and it may soon become that those who are out to enrich themselves by working against UM find themselves in a bad spot. One can hope.

To be clear, kids are free to do what's best for them. Hopefully, that becomes UM once again, but in some cases when it's not, it should carry risks to those who went out of their way to damage us. You can't sit idly and dismiss that as being, "what it is."

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

Lie down with dogs, catch fleas.

You cannot silence the streets.

The expression works just fine. What you dislike is the reality, not the expresion.

Pick your battles, is another expression.

The goal is to win, not to be the loudest.

Nah, expressions are created by and for those cannot accept reality is a place of constant change. The world spends very little time in equilibrium. If you believe otherwise you'll have the pleasure of watching it pass you by two times!

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

I sure haven't said anything about equilibrium. Not sure where that comes fron.

 

[killa1storm]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

Take out the fact that Miami is involved...how can you disagree with this logic? It's like you being interested in a chick and she tells you to kick rocks to go chase some other dude and then when she strikes out she comes running back to you. A kid who is a backup plan for a staff is also at increased risk for things like being processed. And I've had the fortune to be around Richt and know he doesn't really operate that way but still. How can you be mad at a kid for not accepting being treated like a backup plan? I doubt many people accept being treated that way in their day to day lives.

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

So why even go workout at a miami camp if you're only going to be ****ed if they offer you now,go camp at other camps and other staffs.

Exposure? Not sure how Richt's camps are now but I know when I was in HS they would have staffs from all over at camps working as counselors. So you get an opportunity to be seen from many different staffs without having to travel all over. Idk this kids reason though obviously. Could be some form of validation, exposure, etc.

 

[Cajuncane]

Uncle puke is the worst of the worst at crying " Canes did such and such to this kid or that kid " while UFAG or the Semenholes get passes to to ***** over kid after kid...

For a " supposed" Cane fan ,and I use that term VERY loosely,Uncle Puke constantly whining to the media while never bringing up sh*t as to how the noles and turds treat local kids Is sickening and I think he has influenced this type of nonsense on other local coaches.

I think Richt is making headway in turning this type thinking around but if this coaches statement,if true,then obviously that type sentiment to blame Miami for the slightest misstep is still evident in the coaching community as evidenced by this coach badmouthing the U while saying nothing about the turds not taking the kids commitment.

 

[gogeta4]

also we essentiallyu dropped a close friend of his and offered him at the same exact position. This is in Thomas burns I'm talking about, granted I'm sure burns has a track schollie

 

[ILCane2011]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

I'd ask Bethel if that's his thinking too. If he says yes then I pull the offer immediately.

The kid has barely even played any CB in his life, and he gets what should be a dream offer from a NC marquee P5 program. Now, instead of being excited and grateful, his coach is talking like his mouth's a diseased pookyak. These local corches and advisers, for the most part, are maggots.

What are the other offers that Bethel has? He claims to have 10 other offers. Are they all marquee level P5 offers?

That's exactly what I would do. I'd ask to visit Bethel and corch together. I'd ask him in front of the corch if that's his position. If he says yes, I rescind the offer and wish him the best. If he says no, then I ask him to leave the room and let that corch know he's persona non grata until he retracts his statement publicly and apologizes for lying.

Even that is wrong.

If UM's staff is who you want them to be, they don't get distracted by dumb chit in print, and they don't pick real or invented media wars or ego wars with locals, because nothing good can ever come out of it.

Just note it, don't respond, and decide for yourself what the kid thinks based on talking to him. Want to talk to the coach, do it privately. But no need to be right on any of this chit. It's June. (Sign of the Times.) You win on NSD.

What does that even mean? Richt has a well-known reputation for never taking anything personally when it comes to recruiting.

Just look at the staff continuing to recruit Eaford even after last summer.

 

[ILCane2011]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

Take out the fact that Miami is involved...how can you disagree with this logic? It's like you being interested in a chick and she tells you to kick rocks to go chase some other dude and then when she strikes out she comes running back to you. A kid who is a backup plan for a staff is also at increased risk for things like being processed. And I've had the fortune to be around Richt and know he doesn't really operate that way but still. How can you be mad at a kid for not accepting being treated like a backup plan? I doubt many people accept being treated that way in their day to day lives.

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

Except Bethel's coach actually talked up UF in that interview, even after what they pulled with him.

It's pretty convenient that a UF fan like yourself would leave that part out.

And lol at you calling someone else's behavior cuckish. You're a gator fan who megaposts on two different Miami message boards. I'd say you accept being a cuck pretty well

 

[killa1storm]

“Miami should have jumped on him - now you jump on him last, we’re going to put you last. That’s the process of the kid’s thinking.” - Bethel's coach

Add this gem to the list of things you don't see anywhere else in the country from a hometown school coach.

Can you imagine this quote coming from a HS coach in Columbus,OH, Tuscaloosa,AL, Tallahassee, FL, Norman, OK, or Austin, TX? What the **** is wrong with you people over there....

Take out the fact that Miami is involved...how can you disagree with this logic? It's like you being interested in a chick and she tells you to kick rocks to go chase some other dude and then when she strikes out she comes running back to you. A kid who is a backup plan for a staff is also at increased risk for things like being processed. And I've had the fortune to be around Richt and know he doesn't really operate that way but still. How can you be mad at a kid for not accepting being treated like a backup plan? I doubt many people accept being treated that way in their day to day lives.

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

Except Bethel's coach actually talked up UF in that interview, even after what they pulled with him.

It's pretty convenient that a UF fan like yourself would leave that part out.

And lol at you calling someone else's behavior cuckish. You're a gator fan who megaposts on two different Miami message boards. I'd say you accept being a cuck pretty well

Cool.

What did UF 'pull' with him? He never had an offer. Why is that comparable to a coach saying a staff saying essentially that teams who offer late move to the back of the line? When the time comes and UF offers I'm sure they'll be at the back of the line too.

As to me being 'cuckish' whatever. Idk who you are apparently but you know enough about me to know where and how I post. Following another man around online is 'cuckish' so I guess I'll take your word and what behavior qualifies or not.

 

[ILCane2011]

Take out the fact that Miami is involved...how can you disagree with this logic? It's like you being interested in a chick and she tells you to kick rocks to go chase some other dude and then when she strikes out she comes running back to you. A kid who is a backup plan for a staff is also at increased risk for things like being processed. And I've had the fortune to be around Richt and know he doesn't really operate that way but still. How can you be mad at a kid for not accepting being treated like a backup plan? I doubt many people accept being treated that way in their day to day lives.

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

Except Bethel's coach actually talked up UF in that interview, even after what they pulled with him.

It's pretty convenient that a UF fan like yourself would leave that part out.

And lol at you calling someone else's behavior cuckish. You're a gator fan who megaposts on two different Miami message boards. I'd say you accept being a cuck pretty well

Cool.

What did UF 'pull' with him? He never had an offer. Why is that comparable to a coach saying a staff saying essentially that teams who offer late move to the back of the line? When the time comes and UF offers I'm sure they'll be at the back of the line too.

As to me being 'cuckish' whatever. Idk who you are apparently but you know enough about me to know where and how I post. Following another man around online is 'cuckish' so I guess I'll take your word and what behavior qualifies or not.

You really should read the article instead of making statements, because his coach disagrees

Literally from the interview today with Bethel's Coach:

-“Florida is recruiting him,”
-"Florida didn’t hesitate to offer him"
-"I was surprised it took Miami so long to offer."

 

[killa1storm]

Is he mad at UF for not accepting his commitment. That's being treated as a back up plan too but didn't hear his coach throw shade at UF.

Miami has and will always be treated differently when comes to the other schools.

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

Except Bethel's coach actually talked up UF in that interview, even after what they pulled with him.

It's pretty convenient that a UF fan like yourself would leave that part out.

And lol at you calling someone else's behavior cuckish. You're a gator fan who megaposts on two different Miami message boards. I'd say you accept being a cuck pretty well

Cool.

What did UF 'pull' with him? He never had an offer. Why is that comparable to a coach saying a staff saying essentially that teams who offer late move to the back of the line? When the time comes and UF offers I'm sure they'll be at the back of the line too.

As to me being 'cuckish' whatever. Idk who you are apparently but you know enough about me to know where and how I post. Following another man around online is 'cuckish' so I guess I'll take your word and what behavior qualifies or not.

You really should read the article instead of making statements, because his coach disagrees

Literally from the interview today with Bethel's Coach:

-“Florida is recruiting him,”
-"Florida didn’t hesitate to offer him"
-"I was surprised it took Miami so long to offer."

Florida is 'recruiting' him. He's never had an offer idc what his coach says. He's likely just saving face for his kid after what happened earlier. All I know is Randy had to massage that situation. Either way not sure what gotcha moment you think you have? I've already stated if I was his coach I'd tell him to tell UF the exact same thing.

McElwain has struggled to recruit in part because of thinking he can slow play kids then swoop in at the last second. It's one of the reasons he sucks as a recruiter. Smart kids go where they're a priority.

 

[The Franchise]

He's not considering UF. He tried to commit to UF a few months back and they didn't take his commit. If UF was to suddenly offer and I was his coach I'd tell him the same thing...go where you're a priority. Whether people believe it or not recruiting and life in college often has tons of politics involved. Like I already mentioned backup plans are often the first ones to be processed or fight an uphill battle trying to get on the field even when they may be the better player, etc. Miami realistically has about 8 DB's ahead of this kid, take away your fandom and it's easy to see it's probably a better decision to go somewhere else. Seems like people are just upset with the way the coach relayed the message but at the core it's basically saying they didn't appreciate being treated like a backup plan. Idk many people that do except cucks.

Except Bethel's coach actually talked up UF in that interview, even after what they pulled with him.

It's pretty convenient that a UF fan like yourself would leave that part out.

And lol at you calling someone else's behavior cuckish. You're a gator fan who megaposts on two different Miami message boards. I'd say you accept being a cuck pretty well

Cool.

What did UF 'pull' with him? He never had an offer. Why is that comparable to a coach saying a staff saying essentially that teams who offer late move to the back of the line? When the time comes and UF offers I'm sure they'll be at the back of the line too.

As to me being 'cuckish' whatever. Idk who you are apparently but you know enough about me to know where and how I post. Following another man around online is 'cuckish' so I guess I'll take your word and what behavior qualifies or not.

You really should read the article instead of making statements, because his coach disagrees

Literally from the interview today with Bethel's Coach:

-“Florida is recruiting him,”
-"Florida didn’t hesitate to offer him"
-"I was surprised it took Miami so long to offer."

Florida is 'recruiting' him. He's never had an offer idc what his coach says. He's likely just saving face for his kid after what happened earlier. All I know is Randy had to massage that situation. Either way not sure what gotcha moment you think you have? I've already stated if I was his coach I'd tell him to tell UF the exact same thing.

McElwain has struggled to recruit in part because of thinking he can slow play kids then swoop in at the last second. It's one of the reasons he sucks as a recruiter. Smart kids go where they're a priority.

FAU, Akron and Bowling Green offered first and made him the biggest priority. So if he's smart, according to your model, he'll go to one of those places right?

 

[Plzwork4]

I am not sure you two are talking about precisely the same thing. There is no question we have sucked on the field, the numbers bear that out. We have to improve, stack chips and let the cream of the crop know that if they are a first round talent, they will in fact become a first rounder, not a third or fourth rounder. That is UM's part of the bargain. No question there. Hopefully, by spending the money on Mark Richt and his staff, building the IPF, etc. instead of hiring a "up and coming" staff and putting up a few tent poles, UM is demonstrating its commitment to that relationship.

On the other hand, I do believe that a lot of these kids and the community have fallen down on UM. Through all those 30 for 30s, etc. what's forgotten about the U, is we were the place where it was OK to take inner-city Miami to places like ND, Michigan, Gainesville, Texas, etc. and bloody their noses with it. The rest of these programs are piling on after the fact and these handlers are allowing history to be forgotten for their own gains. That part is wrong. There should be some sense or responsibility to put on for the City and fight for the U, not cut and run where the dollars are bigger and winning was easier. I won't speak for him, but that's Swags point. Unless UM does every single thing right-- offers early, calls daily, recruits teammates, etc.-- they are taken to task unmercifully. On the other hand, some OOS or upstate hotshot rolls into town, craps on UM and slow plays a kids commitment and all is OK. That ain't right either.

Shalala shut down the old Miami program ages ago.

You cannot blame kids for doing what was the smart thing for themselves.

This school hired three straight incompetent corches.

As for your bolded comment, it os what it is. We ain't a big state program. We have access to the best recruits in the country, but we also take the competitive environment as it is. All in all, it's good for us, but it ain't perfect. No sense in crying over it or blaming kids. If UM does what it should, we'll be okay.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I hate that expression, "It is what it is." That's the death knell from a defeated mindset. It is what it is, until it's not, then you're left in the dark.

I agree UM didn't evolve properly and believed that the do more with less lightening they caught in the bottle under Butch would work again. Hence the poor hires, but it did very little to fight back at those who spoke out and worked against it. That was an equally big mistake.

It appears the tide is turning and it may soon become that those who are out to enrich themselves by working against UM find themselves in a bad spot. One can hope.

To be clear, kids are free to do what's best for them. Hopefully, that becomes UM once again, but in some cases when it's not, it should carry risks to those who went out of their way to damage us. You can't sit idly and dismiss that as being, "what it is."

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Lie down with dogs, catch fleas.

You cannot silence the streets.

The expression works just fine. What you dislike is the reality, not the expresion.

Pick your battles, is another expression.

The goal is to win, not to be the loudest.

Nah, expressions are created by and for those cannot accept reality is a place of constant change. The world spends very little time in equilibrium. If you believe otherwise you'll have the pleasure of watching it pass you by two times!

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I get the feeling that you just stepped out of a Tony Robbins seminar with some of your talk. Was it enlightening?

 

[Tee3000]

Meh, Bethel is not a Miami caliber DB.

Would rather put the scholarship towards another position. Feels like a reach in June. Can't we at least wait to see his senior year? If they slow played Harley so bad last year and don't want to offer some other guys without tape, why are we taking this kid? Because he's tall and fast? He hasn't shown he can be an ACC corner outside of 7v7 work

Its called depth too. You cant bring in a class full of studs who will more then likely be gone after 3 years. Need a guy like Bethel who will not mind RSing and learning how to become a DB and then unleash him his RS-Jr year. We know guys like Jobe, Campbell, Hall, and Frierson are going to be in the 2-deep Day 1. Maybe even Ivey and Blades as well.

I want guys that can actually play. Your depth is only as good as your last player and if your last player on the deoth chart sucks then your depth isn't very good.

This kid is a major project!

 

[Tee3000]

Could be any of Bethel's coaches. Doesn't have to be the HC. Whoever it is needs to be straightened the fck out.

This is how most of these ***** down there think man and it's pathetic. There isn't real love for Miami like it should be from coaches down there. If Miami doesn't offer some marginal ******* kid that they think is worthy, these dudes get all butt hurt. I've never seen anything like it. You have a ton of guys down there that coach high school ball and these 7on7 teams that did not play for UM and were not recruited by UM so they have zero loyalty to UM bc most of them are out for themselves.

 

[Tee3000]

Re: the quote, who gives a ****?

Recruit him until he commits, or until you determine it's a waste of time. Then move on to the next one.

People get so offended about recruiting nonsense. Patrick Peterson was the king of recruiting ****ery. He turned out OK. Same with Dalvin Cook.

I want the coach who can cut through the bull**** and sign those guys. Not the guy who drops talented players because he's turned off by Ferman quotes.

Both of those players ****ED Miami.

Your point?

 

[Tee3000]

Miami was taking Pro Bowlers and turning them into 4th round picks. #1 class in the country. It's not a coincidence.

who, when?