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2024 Zaquan Patterson - Safety, Chaminade

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RVACane said:
Yes. You did your research and still don’t know better.

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I’ve done this enough to know what I’m dealing with. And I’ve banned people on one post.

You’re not getting new or reborn from banned angry mope friends. And you aren’t defending yourself, you’ve been the aggressor lately.

And just like that the switch goes off as the @joshvalencia1996 straw breaks the camels back and the miserable mope crybabies have surpassed the bully slurpers as the bigger board ********.

I am going to pile drive aggressive miserable mope ******** into the e-pavement.
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WeBallinBoyz said:
Do something worthwhile mentioning, and the tune can change considerably. But defending this...whatever is going on...is hilariously asinine, but routine for this fanbase. It's the same wheel of coping y'all fall victim to every single time.
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I also don't think what I'm doing can be classified as defending…It's more reserving judgement

And I want to know what is the alternative to it?

Flying banners and running him out of town during/after year 2? Want to see a mass exodus? A nail in the coffin? Go ahead be my guest
 
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wspcane said:
All we have heard all cycle is this is a down year for south Florida vs last year and that is part of what has been a large factor in our struggles this cycle. If that’s the case then you absolutely have to keep the few guys like this home.
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really the biiggest problem and most of the 5 star guys didnt even consider us
 
RVACane said:
Yes. You did your research and still don’t know better.

View attachment 252059

I’ve done this enough to know what I’m dealing with. And I’ve banned people on one post.

You’re not getting new or reborn from banned angry mope friends. And you aren’t defending yourself, you’ve been the aggressor lately.

And just like that the switch goes off as the @joshvalencia1996 straw breaks the camel’s back and the miserable mope crybabies have surpassed the bully slurpers as the bigger board ********.

I am going to pile drive aggressive miserable mope ******** into the e-pavement.
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WeBallinBoyz said:
Maybe I read it wrong, but he’s using unproven to classify most high school recruits and used FSU as an example. Technically that’s true until they play a game in college. Every kid FSU has paid for or is willing to pay for is pretty **** good, let’s not just classify them as divas because they have Garnett and gold on their jerseys. Same with UF, or any other legitimate college football program. If you’re good at football (at this very moment), you’re getting money. That’s the way it always has been, and it’s certainly the way things operate now.

Of course there will be misses here and there, but that was just a long excuse for why we’re eval season and not paying high rated recruits….because of speculation about character and the locker room? These aren’t Manny’s guys anymore, that excuse is pa la Calle, it’s done. This is Year 2.

It wasn’t even remotely accurate because we’ve missed on maybe 15-20 recruits this cycle easily, and it wasn’t because of character concerns. I can assure you of that. Pony up the cash, and all this excuse making turns into “Mario is an elite recruiter and we’re financially committed to operating with the top dogs”.
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An excuse? I’ll never make excuses for a man being paid 8m a year and thus far showing lackluster results. It’s a message board.. sharing of ideas.. a differing point of view rather than talking about the best bbq joints and or constant moping.

Apparently you think we have endless money. Just drop a mil on everyone and be done with it.. rock on. But that’s not reality.

In your world, we shoulda dropped a mil on Air Noland (again, proven NOTHING at the college level), while jeopardizing and/or upping what we now have to pay TVD for doing so. Or throw a mil at any of these DTs were whiffing on… just to up what we have to pay LT56 to keep him around and happy.

I can only imagine if we dumped a **** ton of money on the Kyle Wrights of the world.. sure that would have sat well with majority of the roster after he flamed out after arriving on campus.

The point is.. Mario is calculated and it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he’s cognizant of these things… even if you’re not.
 
Felonious Monk said:
Maybe because there are so few really good recruits out there, schools are overpaying to keep them home.
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I think Miami will pay anything to get these kids i think the nil factor is over stated , its really the on field product and the constant coaching overhauls we make, alot of these kids never saw miami be good , wasn't Miami fans growing up, we went 5-7 last year and these kids love who ever winning at the time and its starts to build a pipeline that's why we Ohio state , Georgia and bama always stealing guys out our backyard.
 
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skeeter said:
Yes…To the levels it's being taken…I don't understand any of it. It's absolutely ridiculous the way some of you meltdown…Insane. And you are exaggerating. Lightfoot wasn't a win? Rudolph wasn't a win? And then look at the 2 year haul…Some nice DL wins last year.

Failed to solve our QB position? Way premature…TVD has a chance to be very good. What if Emory Williams keeps this trajectory?

I view things as areas of concern…Some of you view them as complete constant reason for meltdown. I'll never understand that behavior. And I see far more of that immature type meltdowns (count the pages) than I do level-headedness…So I would consider that the asinine routine for this fan base.

Reasons for optimism? Yes I see plenty…But just like the areas of concern, I'm cool with waiting there as well. He's different than what was here before him. The culture change (and I'm not saying Diaz was all negative) is real…And even if it isn't the ultimate answer it is DIFFERENT so the results were ugly.

Overall I'm neutral on CMC right now, slightly down from where I was before…Hires have me alarmed. And the way "ace recruiters" seem to be losing value with NIL may hurt his skillset. Am I ready to give up and just completely trash him on every message board, on social media? **** no, why would I be. There's still a lot of reason for excitement.
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There are two separate points of evaluation in my head: the current team, and the '24 recruiting class. The current team has no excuse for going less than 8-4. DMoney mentioned the schedule being concerning...well it's a top 10 easiest schedule in the country. It has 1 game we're double-digit underdogs in, and that's a rivalry game against FSU. UNC is extremely beatable, and yet we talk about them as if they're some perennial 10-2 squad. We were dogsh!t last season and almost beat them. They lost their top two receiving options and a top 10 OC in college football. They replaced him with Chip Lindsey, and still have an atrocious defensive unit coached by a washed DC. NC State, while soundly coached, has a very medicore offensive personnel on paper. UVA, GT, BC should all be gimmes. Stay healthy and it would be extremely concerning not to win 8, 9 games.

A big part of the reason for optimism about the '23 season is....surprise surprise, the '23 class. And what's not to love about this? I don't want to go over every single recruit, but we signed 13 players in the top 204, and 16 in the top 450 and 21 in the Top 750. The only players we didn't sign in that Top 750 were Pulliam (760), Tinilau (project OL), and our punter. Most of them are already competing for spots in the two deep.

We've got what...single digits inside the top 450? You need to stack classes on top of one another in order to build a machine of a program. A two/three deep where the drop off isn't something insanely horrifying, sort of like this year for us. God forbid we lose Matt Lee, TVD, Damari Brown, Kam, etc....big drop off in talent. Bumps can come in rankings, sure. Kids can get better during their senior seasons. Maybe we're just well ahead of the curve, **** I hope so. I'm not actively rooting against anyone in the class. If they're Canes, I wholeheartedly support them.

But make NO MISTAKE, we desperately need better talent in this class. Less projects, more guys that will fight for the two-deep in '24. It's essential for the continued growth of this roster. Our "evals" were still pretty decently-rated recruits (Pulliam, Bobby, Horton, Johnson, etc). Our evals this year? Tape talks, offers talk, money talks...we're lacking in all three with some of these recruits.
 
skeeter said:
Yes…To the levels it's being taken…I don't understand any of it. It's absolutely ridiculous the way some of you meltdown…Insane. And you are exaggerating. Lightfoot wasn't a win? Rudolph wasn't a win? And then look at the 2 year haul…Some nice DL wins last year.

Failed to solve our QB position? Way premature…TVD has a chance to be very good. What if Emory Williams keeps this trajectory?

I view things as areas of concern…Some of you view them as complete constant reason for meltdown. I'll never understand that behavior. And I see far more of that immature type meltdowns (count the pages) than I do level-headedness…So I would consider that the asinine routine for this fan base.

Reasons for optimism? Yes I see plenty…But just like the areas of concern, I'm cool with waiting there as well. He's different than what was here before him. The culture change (and I'm not saying Diaz was all negative) is real…And even if it isn't the ultimate answer it is DIFFERENT so the results were ugly.

Overall I'm neutral on CMC right now, slightly down from where I was before…Hires have me alarmed. And the way "ace recruiters" seem to be losing value with NIL may hurt his skillset. Am I ready to give up and just completely trash him on every message board, on social media? **** no, why would I be? There's still a lot of reason for excitement.
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WeBallinBoyz said:
There are two separate points of evaluation in my head: the current team, and the '24 recruiting class. The current team has no excuse for going less than 8-4. DMoney mentioned the schedule being concerning...well it's a top 10 easiest schedule in the country. It has 1 game we're double-digit underdogs in, and that's a rivalry game against FSU. UNC is extremely beatable, and yet we talk about them as if they're some perennial 10-2 squad. We were dogsh!t last season and almost beat them. They lost their top two receiving options and a top 10 OC in college football. They replaced him with Chip Lindsey, and still have an atrocious defensive unit coached by a washed DC. NC State, while soundly coached, has a very medicore offensive personnel on paper. UVA, GT, BC should all be gimmes. Stay healthy and it would be extremely concerning not to win 8, 9 games.

A big part of the reason for optimism about the '23 season is....surprise surprise, the '23 class. And what's not to love about this? I don't want to go over every single recruit, but we signed 13 players in the top 204, and 16 in the top 450 and 21 in the Top 750. The only players we didn't sign in that Top 750 were Pulliam (760), Tinilau (project OL), and our punter. Most of them are already competing for spots in the two deep.

We've got what...single digits inside the top 450? You need to stack classes on top of one another in order to build a machine of a program. A two/three deep where the drop off isn't something insanely horrifying, sort of like this year for us. God forbid we lose Matt Lee, TVD, Damari Brown, Kam, etc....big drop off in talent. Bumps can come in rankings, sure. Kids can get better during their senior seasons. Maybe we're just well ahead of the curve, **** I hope so. I'm not actively rooting against anyone in the class. If they're Canes, I wholeheartedly support them.

But make NO MISTAKE, we desperately need better talent in this class. Less projects, more guys that will fight for the two-deep in '24. It's essential for the continued growth of this roster. Our "evals" were still pretty decently-rated recruits (Pulliam, Bobby, Horton, Johnson, etc). Our evals this year? Tape talks, offers talk, money talks...we're lacking in all three with some of these recruits.
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Thank you both for demonstrating to the Neanderthal mongoloidian cretans how discussions and interactions should go on here.
 
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