Exactly. While I disagree with the strategy they used, to take the approach that they were going to start from scratch given the lack of skill and depth, and install their defense even though it didn't fit the players available at the time, that has nothing to do with D'Onofrio's understanding of defense or ability to field a good defense. They decided things were bad enough to just install a defense and recruit into it, while letting the current players grow into it, graduate, or leave. Again, don't particularly agree with that, but that doesn't mean the defensive system itself is bad. Now for the first time since they've been here, there is something resembling an actual quality D1 level college team and at least a bit of depth. NOW, they must prove they can use it or yes, they should go.
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Exactly. While I disagree with the strategy they used, to take the approach that they were going to start from scratch given the lack of skill and depth, and install their defense even though it didn't fit the players available at the time, that has nothing to do with D'Onofrio's understanding of defense or ability to field a good defense. They decided things were bad enough to just install a defense and recruit into it, while letting the current players grow into it, graduate, or leave. Again, don't particularly agree with that, but that doesn't mean the defensive system itself is bad. Now for the first time since they've been here, there is something resembling an actual quality D1 level college team and at least a bit of depth. NOW, they must prove they can use it or yes, they should go.
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The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, *****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
No. Interpretation: the coaches took the route of deciding that they were left with crap, and figured they'd just revamp the system even if the players they did have weren't suited to it. I think they should have transitioned more slowly and see if the crap they were left with could have done a little better, but that's not the strategy they took. So yes, it's not surprising to have a bad defense when it's a complex defense requiring talent, football smarts, and depth, three things that have not existed here to any great degree for years now. Now those things are starting to build up, so the defense better start to improve or I too will be calling for D'Onofrio's head. However, bottom line is we have yet to see his system with players that fit.
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The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, ****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Seriously, just stop. Stop. Our Defense was ranked #120 in 2012. We were only slightly better than that last year cause we had Savannah State on the schedule. Duke put up 48 points on us and 543 yards of offense. There's no justification for that.
The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, ****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Seriously, just stop. Stop. Our Defense was ranked #120 in 2012. We were only slightly better than that last year cause we had Savannah State on the schedule. Duke put up 48 points on us and 543 yards of offense. There's no justification for that.
Yes, and during those games I saw tons of freshmen making freshmen mistakes. I saw two safeties who were barely talented enough to play on Savannah State make constant mistakes, and just flat out being out of position, I saw throw-away quality linebackers like Cornelius and Gaines have no idea how to take a correct angle or have the football IQ to understand what they are supposed to be doing. I saw a D-line that had minimal starting talent and ZERO depth. The personnel situation has now improved, now we'll see if the defensive scheme (which in-and-of-itself is not a bad one) will work when we've got some talent for the first time in 5 years.
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The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, ****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Seriously, just stop. Stop. Our Defense was ranked #120 in 2012. We were only slightly better than that last year cause we had Savannah State on the schedule. Duke put up 48 points on us and 543 yards of offense. There's no justification for that.
add the fact it takes to half time to make adjustments and this says it all
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The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, ****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Seriously, just stop. Stop. Our Defense was ranked #120 in 2012. We were only slightly better than that last year cause we had Savannah State on the schedule. Duke put up 48 points on us and 543 yards of offense. There's no justification for that.
Yes, and during those games I saw tons of freshmen making freshmen mistakes. I saw two safeties who were barely talented enough to play on Savannah State make constant mistakes, and just flat out being out of position, I saw throw-away quality linebackers like Cornelius and Gaines have no idea how to take a correct angle or have the football IQ to understand what they are supposed to be doing. I saw a D-line that had minimal starting talent and ZERO depth. The personnel situation has now improved, now we'll see if the defensive scheme (which in-and-of-itself is not a bad one) will work when we've got some talent for the first time in 5 years.
Please guy you seen seniors he left on the field the ones getting beat every plays. Stop sticking up for him Dona
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The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, *****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Then how are there DC's at other schools who can somehow manage to not be historically terrible, and actually succeed in less than four years? Or is your contention that there is no DC in the country who could have done a better job than D'Onofrio has done?
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Neither Buddy Ryan, Marvin Lewis, or Dan Quinn would have fielded a team ranked better than 120. It was impossible, impossible I tell you.The verdict is still out?
Yes, it is. If you know the first thing about football, which doesn't seem to be the case, you'd know that. You can disagree with the strategy they took, and in fact, I do as well. However, that doesn't change that this is the first year where there are actually players for the system installed. Whine, mope, *****, and cry all you want, but the simple fact is this is the first year that they have a match between players and system. Now we'll see what they can do with those players.
Then how are there DC's at other schools who can somehow manage to not be historically terrible, and actually succeed in less than four years? Or is your contention that there is no DC in the country who could have done a better job than D'Onofrio has done?
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Then that's your foolish mistake. His deck was more than full enough where the defense should not have been ranked in the 110's.
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When was this?
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So his STRATEGY was to run system that didn't play to his players' strengths?
And we can't use the THREE ******* SEASONS of abysmal play as judgment against this 'strategy' and those implementing it, because it was intentional? Somehow, none of this track record is relevant? Getting tuned up, routinely, by bad offenses is not something to be concerned about?
And I shouldn't be concerned, because these coarches needed four years to get their players in and ready?
OK.
And we can't use the THREE ******* SEASONS of abysmal play as judgment against this 'strategy' and those implementing it, because it was intentional? Somehow, none of this track record is relevant? Getting tuned up, routinely, by bad offenses is not something to be concerned about?
And I shouldn't be concerned, because these coarches needed four years to get their players in and ready?
OK.
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Are you ******* ****ting me? Our defensive talent was 110 in the country bad. You have to be trolling. I know TrueCane100 is. Either that or he's 12.
Like I said, I don't agree with the strategy. But that is NOT the same as the validity of the scheme itself, or whether or not D'Onofrio is a "mastermind" at defense. They seemed to have just written off the three years while trying to look to the future with the total revamp. Now they have players, we'll see if it pays off long term. The idiots pretending anyone is giving them a free pass are making up motives for those who simply understand that we haven't seen a D'Onofrio defense with actual D'Onofrio players yet. Should he have just written off the past few years and force-fit the players at the time into his system? I don't think so, but that's of trying to win now vs. win later. Does it mean they system is worthless and he can't coach defense? That remains to be seen no matter how much you whine.
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Cut the guy some slack. Almost all young men coming in from junior college need time to make adjustments. Almost all of the junior colleges don't have the resources nor the coaching and the difference between FBS program and a junior college is night and day. This was the same problem Calvin had in January.
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I can tell you put a lot of thought behind that response, well as much as you can think.
Try again kiddo.
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Our secondary depth is definitely better but we are incredibly thin at LB and have a lot of question marks on the DL. Considering our defense was historically bad last season I don't know that I'm ready to pin my hopes on a couple of Juco transfers and a true freshman (Thomas) no matter how good they might be as long as D'Onofrio is running the show.
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What a ******* myopic view point. You get the first point yet can't connect the dots to save your ******* life. Of course the D or anyone d would play better with handpicked players for their style of D. That is not the definition of a successful coach. Taking what you have and making it work is. Waiting 4 years to field a decent D is the most moronic thinking I've seen on this board. And you are the point man. Kudo's.
That's what some of these tards think. If you can call it thinking... smh
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