WR Class

If you look at his history, Mark Richt has always struggled recruiting WR. AJ Green is a big one, of course, but for the most part he fared terribly at WR.

He loved recruiting big white kids at WR at Georgia. In S. Fla. there are simply too many elite athletes for him to continuously fare this poorly, but it's not the position he excels at by any means.


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I said this in another thread and got clowned on by idiots. WR for Richt was never a huge position. He is great at RB and defense. Dugans will have to carry the recruiting for the WR position.
 
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If you look at his history, Mark Richt has always struggled recruiting WR. AJ Green is a big one, of course, but for the most part he fared terribly at WR.

He loved recruiting big white kids at WR at Georgia. In S. Fla. there are simply too many elite athletes for him to continuously fare this poorly, but it's not the position he excels at by any means.


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I said this in another thread and got clowned on by idiots. WR for Richt was never a huge position. He is great at RB and defense. Dugans will have to carry the recruiting for the WR position.


I wonder why this is the case? Its not like we run the option and never throw the ball.
 
If we sign Bandy, Dean and Edwards then Dallas can become a full-time WR imo.
 
I think Cager is a below-average ACC starter.


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How have you made that determination with such limited data?

There isn't a lot to go on yet, but I wasn't a fan of his as a recruit, the coaches haven't been a fan of his in practice, and now he's coming off serious injury that usually sees a player at less than his previous self the first year back.

Players have surprised me before, and I've been wrong before (quite often honestly), so it's certainly possible he turns out to be more.


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I think Cager is a below-average ACC starter.


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How have you made that determination with such limited data?

There isn't a lot to go on yet, but I wasn't a fan of his as a recruit, the coaches haven't been a fan of his in practice, and now he's coming off serious injury that usually sees a player at less than his previous self the first year back.

Players have surprised me before, and I've been wrong before (quite often honestly), so it's certainly possible he turns out to be more.


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FWIW, coaches have raved about his progress as of late. Reading between the lines, coaches were not too thrilled with his practice habits early on but supposedly turned things around before he got injured. Rehab has been going well, supposedly.
 
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Miami should never be lacking at the skill position, it's maddening

I wouldn't call Richards, Cager, Mullins, Dallas, Njoku and hopefully Harley "lacking". Even D Harris has a role. We can win the ACC and go to the Championships with that WR corps.

But I agree with your implication that we should be more stacked given all the So FL talent we see at WR every year. We got Coley and Richards, which IMO were the two best coming out in their classes. But we whiffed in other years, and whiffed on this year's top 2, Jeudy and Grimes. All the more reason we MUST get Pope next year and start a trend of landing at least 1 of the top 2 every year going forward.

It's not "lacking" but it certainly isn't where it needs to be. But, that changes if we find a very capable #2 . To me, great teams have a go to alpha (in our case, it's Richards for next year) and a real solid #2 . There's a huge dropoff - right now - b/w Richards and the next guy. If Cager or Mullins can elevate their play to a much higher level, then we're all good. That's a big if, though, considering how far they have to go. To me, Berrios and Harris are #3 /4 kind of WRs.
 
If you look at his history, Mark Richt has always struggled recruiting WR. AJ Green is a big one, of course, but for the most part he fared terribly at WR.

He loved recruiting big white kids at WR at Georgia. In S. Fla. there are simply too many elite athletes for him to continuously fare this poorly, but it's not the position he excels at by any means.


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I went ahead and looked back at his recruiting classes going back to 2009 and you're right - usually small numbers of WRs (he seemed to prefer "athletes") and the WRs he did sign were usually averaged 3 star types.

Anyhow, at the end of the day, if we end up with Harley and Njoku (who was already in the bag well before richt got here), huge disappointment.


Darrian Felix is an interesting slot option. People were raving about this kid's ability in the open field before the summer. What happened?

Malcolm mirchell was highly recruited, so was this kid brown whos girst name is escaping me was the number one wideout in the nation on some sites, so he has got some big name wideouts in the past, he struck out this year though unless he pulls something out of his a$$ with smith
 
I just don't want them to panic and start offering guys who shouldn't be here just to have "numbers". Don't forget, Miami is one of the few schools that still features tight ends and we've got a proven returnee in Herndon and a former high school wide receiver in Irvin. I'm OK with splitting either one of those guys out in 4 or 5 wide sets.
 
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I just don't want them to panic and start offering guys who shouldn't be here just to have "numbers". Don't forget, Miami is one of the few schools that still features tight ends and we've got a proven returnee in Herndon and a former high school wide receiver in Irvin. I'm OK with splitting either one of those guys out in 4 or 5 wide sets.

Agree i dont wanna over sign at all, dont want any carters, jones or langhams on the team those are wasted spots, we wanna win we need talented depth
 
If we sign Bandy, Dean and Edwards then Dallas can become a full-time WR imo.

Id put deejay at FS that be his money position IMO

Will be interesting to see. I know a lot of folks like him as a playmaking CB, but I don't think he has the athletic ability to do it. He strikes me more of a natural instincts guy who you'd like to see at safety. His track times are pedestrian - not sure he has the speed for CB.
 
If you look at his history, Mark Richt has always struggled recruiting WR. AJ Green is a big one, of course, but for the most part he fared terribly at WR.

He loved recruiting big white kids at WR at Georgia. In S. Fla. there are simply too many elite athletes for him to continuously fare this poorly, but it's not the position he excels at by any means.


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I think Cager is a below-average ACC starter.


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How have you made that determination with such limited data?

There isn't a lot to go on yet, but I wasn't a fan of his as a recruit, the coaches haven't been a fan of his in practice, and now he's coming off serious injury that usually sees a player at less than his previous self the first year back.

Players have surprised me before, and I've been wrong before (quite often honestly), so it's certainly possible he turns out to be more.


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The coaches were using the media to motivate Cager to play bigger. Before his injury, he was getting burn with the ones. I think the coaches like him a lot.
 
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If you look at his history, Mark Richt has always struggled recruiting WR. AJ Green is a big one, of course, but for the most part he fared terribly at WR.

He loved recruiting big white kids at WR at Georgia. In S. Fla. there are simply too many elite athletes for him to continuously fare this poorly, but it's not the position he excels at by any means.


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I just don't want them to panic and start offering guys who shouldn't be here just to have "numbers". Don't forget, Miami is one of the few schools that still features tight ends and we've got a proven returnee in Herndon and a former high school wide receiver in Irvin. I'm OK with splitting either one of those guys out in 4 or 5 wide sets.
You'll see plenty of Irving split out next year like we did with Njoku. Irving has incredible hands.
 
Vision, Where are you seeing that the coaches don't like Cager? I remember them saying he was doing very well in practice just before his injury.
 
The coaches were using the media to motivate Cager to play bigger. Before his injury, he was getting burn with the ones. I think the coaches like him a lot.

I hope so. I've never been a big Cager fan. He's a linear player who doesn't play to his size in my view, but keep in mind I see this guy in limited clips and whatever full games I can find on the internet, and they see him every day. Hopefully they have a role that utilizes his size and his deep threat abilities, while minimizing his lack of wiggle and what I perceive to be limited effort in the past in blocking, running routes over the middle, and fighting for the ball.

But, I do believe these coaches should have the benefit of the doubt for at least another season.
 
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Vision, Where are you seeing that the coaches don't like Cager? I remember them saying he was doing very well in practice just before his injury.

Well, I wouldn't expect coaches to ever come right out and say they dislike a player, but reading between the lines of the comments, I didn't get a we love this guy vibe.
 
Deejay might not have a choice but to play WR for us, which isn't really a bad thing anyway because he has legit speed & is a very talented high caliber athlete.

The problem at WR is simple, we need bodies... Yeah, we seemingly should be okay with the guys we already got, but only 2-3 WR's in this class still isn't good even by the lowest standards.

I'm a huge fan of Mullins & think he will be a big time player for us next year, but we really don't know what anybody in that WR corp is going to do besides the "YG" Ahmmon.

The key to competing for Conference titles is having an abundance of talent, that's why Clemson & FSU are a shoo-in every year to win the ACC.

It's great having an elite WR like Ahmmon who will be a top 5 WR in the nation during his time here, but if we ever really want to win this **** conference we gotta have more than 1.

There's no legitimate reason as to why we shouldn't have at least 4 WR's in this class... You gotta have depth in the event someone goes down & just being okay with taking only 2 WR's in a class is simply unacceptable.
 
Deejay might not have a choice but to play WR for us, which isn't really a bad thing anyway because he has legit speed & is a very talented high caliber athlete.

The problem at WR is simple, we need bodies... Yeah, we seemingly should be okay with the guys we already got, but only 2-3 WR's in this class still isn't good even by the lowest standards.

I'm a huge fan of Mullins & think he will be a big time player for us next year, but we really don't know what anybody in that WR corp is going to do besides the "YG" Ahmmon.

The key to competing for Conference titles is having an abundance of talent, that's why Clemson & FSU are a shoo-in every year to win the ACC.

It's great having an elite WR like Ahmmon who will be a top 5 WR in the nation during his time here, but if we ever really want to win this **** conference we gotta have more than 1.

There's no legitimate reason as to why we shouldn't have at least 4 WR's in this class... You gotta have depth in the event someone goes down & just being okay with taking only 2 WR's in a class is simply unacceptable.

Im cool with 2 wideouts if they are legit players, the ones we have now committed have potential but aren't guaranteed playmakers thats the issue we are in, cant strike out next year like this year that will definitely set us back
 
This wouldn't be an issue if Bruce wasn't such a dumbass. What a shame.
 
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