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Wisconsin accuses Miami of tampering

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RVACane said:
@JamesQuall i don’t know even know what this is but it’s suspect.
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DMoney said:
What does Wisconsin really want?

If they want Lucas to play football for them, they can’t force it with a lawsuit. Courts won’t order specific performance of personal services because it’s one step removed from slavery.

If they want Lucas to play anywhere but Miami, they need the NCAA to block him. But there is no basis for that in the NCAA rules or past precedent. The worst penalty for tampering is a slap on the wrist. And the NCAA has already signaled they aren’t getting involved, because they don’t want to get sued and lose again. If anything, Wisconsin violated NCAA rules by not entering Lucas into the Portal as required by the by-laws.

If Wisconsin wants money from Miami, they need to show the existence of a binding contract and damages. There is no binding contract because the MOU was contingent on the settlement being approved and Lucas being enrolled at Wisconsin. He also never got paid.

And even if the contract was binding, how was Wisconsin damaged? They can’t say he was an employee contracted to play football. Are they going to say they lost millions in marketing value? It’s absurd.

It seems that Wisconsin is mad about losing the player, and the Big 10 is mad at the ACC for not playing the game. They want this to look like a mess so they can ask Congress to clean it up.

But the problem is the NCAA itself. Its business model is illegal. If Congress doesn’t protect them from getting sued, they will eventually collapse under the weight of litigation.

Just make it professional already. Keep all the school ties that make college football unique, allow the players to negotiate the rules with the coaches and schools, and get real business people involved. It’s inevitable.
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I think they are probably way more concerned that the standard contract they used through the B1G might be more useful as toilet paper and have bigger problems from that aspect.

They know there is no way this hits the courts, so they broadcast it in a flex on Social Media and hope to win over some public appeal.
 
JTKoval said:
The lesson here is that if revenue sharing ever becomes a reality, these teenagers best get an agent and not tie themselves to enforceable two year contracts for peanuts. Lucas’ “deal” likely took the sharing out of revenue sharing.

Wisconsin asking a kid to sign an illegal contract should be the story. “This has no real value to you. Please sign here and become our free employee.” BIG trying to reframe it as tampering. Shame on them.
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And the timing of it shows how they put their athletes under pressure….sign here as soon as our season ended and right before the portal opens.
 
Lucas issue aside… anyone else concerned with how this could affect a future B1G invite especially if it ends up going the court route? By no means am I saying we should back down but I can definitely see this burning a few bridges.

Worry about that bridge when we/if we have to cross it? Lol
 
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AtlAtty said:
UM and Lucas should consider suing for defamation and libel. The only defense would be truth, so UW better have what it claims.
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Sue the B1G as well for their statement. We’re not going there anytime soon anyhow
 
Noliaboi said:
Lucas issue aside… anyone else concerned with how this could affect a future B1G invite especially if it ends up going the court route? By no means am I saying we should back down but I can definitely see this burning a few bridges.

Worry about that bridge when we/if we have to cross it? Lol
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No, as I posted above this. Because I don’t think we’re going there so fast anyway and regardless, I’d do what @AtlAtty said and file a libel and defamation suit and deal with it in 10 years. 😂
 
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RVACane said:
I don’t think we’re fit in either one of em
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Yeah, I agree. I just don't want any part of the B1G. I understand all the AAU stuff and why we'd be a good fit from that side of things. But we aren't a fit on the field.

We will ALWAYS be criminals to their refs. Not the bogeyman everyone is afraid to play. We're going to be accused of cheating off the field and playing dirty on it. We won't get a single call on the field.

We've already had beef with Penn State, OSU and now Wisconsin. The B1G wet dream is Notre Dame, who we've also had beef with. And that weather.. its not the double edged sword people pretend it is. It'd be a problem for us.

Idk where we should go tbh..
 
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TooColdToHold said:
That’s their only way play in this matter so they decided to throw it out there l. I’ve never seen a school crash out so hard over one player.
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It’s embarrassing. And the conference follows along with an even more hollow statement.

Have Morgan Freeman read it with Heart of an Angel playing in the background.

Bama stole Horton and we took it like a man. It was business not personal.

They had nothing to say about not putting him into the transfer portal as the bylaws require.

That is not a legal reason to not comply.

They almost have to sue with all the crying they’re doing.
 
So his unenrolling in Wisconsin and then his enrollment in Miami was pre-approved by the NCAA beforehand through his Lawyer.

Now the only thing Wisconsin has is tampering? Really?
We know the NCAA won’t even touch that one.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
BRUH you wouldve thought we took a Jeremiah Smith level player from em the way they going hard like this :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
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Unfortunately the same things that make you laugh can make you cry, if Wisconsin is dead set on pursuing this then this could ultimately blow up in our faces. Saying that tampering happens all the time doesn't make it legal. If they choose to spend the money/resources to pursue this til the end it may not be so funny. We are Miami after all. IJS
 
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TooColdToHold said:
That’s their only way play in this matter so they decided to throw it out there l. I’ve never seen a school crash out so hard over one player.
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Do you realize that we are crashing out just as hard as they are, is he really worth this potential headache? Could getting his commitment cost us Scholls in the end? Any attorneys have any objective input on all the outcomes of this situation?
 
Yoyo423 said:
I'm actually shocked Wisconsin is being this stupid. Take your loss and move on. You're just making yourself look foolish and petty.
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Not uf they win the suit, then we look foolish and petty, right. If it backfires then we will all be calling Mario a moron, but in the meantime we are all on board? Seems like alot to go through for 1 player on both sides, but 1 side is fighting for a player and the other side is fighting for a principle/precedent between the 2 which side looks petty?
 
Let’s be honest: The reason they’re so angry and up in arms is because it’s Miami. If it were anyone else they might be a little miffed, but definitely wouldn’t be this upset and try to slander us. The fact that it’s us really gets under their skin. Since I’ve been alive all these other schools do the same stuff, if not worse, and it’s perfectly okay, but if we do it everyone’s like, “Oh how horrible!” and it’s a national tragedy.
 
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