Wisconsin accuses Miami of tampering

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I'm no attorney, but I thought for a contract to be a legal contract, there had to be an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

If he didn't get any money - no contract. No contract - no beef.

So what am I missing?
But if the contract terms promised payment at (x) future date, would it not still apply?
 
Nash admitted when he first left WCW for WWE( Coulda been WWF still) he was contacted by WWE in some capacity and walked in to Ole Anderson, asked for his release and Ole just said yea... Voided his contract right there and Kevin went to WWE . Apparently Ole saw nothing in Kevin. Talk about mis judgment....
I’ve read that. I’m presuming it was Scott Hall who served as the intermediary. He’d been in WCW with Nash in 1991 and 1992 snd could have been the go between when Michaels expressed interest in bringing Nash to WWE.
 
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The lesson here is that if revenue sharing ever becomes a reality, these teenagers best get an agent and not tie themselves to enforceable two year contracts for peanuts. Lucas’ “deal” likely took the sharing out of revenue sharing.

Wisconsin asking a kid to sign an illegal contract should be the story. “This has no real value to you. Please sign here and become our free employee.” BIG trying to reframe it as tampering. Shame on them.
 
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The lesson here is that if revenue sharing ever becomes a reality, these teenagers best get an agent and not tie themselves to enforceable two year contracts for peanuts. Lucas’ “deal” likely took the sharing out of revenue sharing.

Wisconsin asking a kid to sign an illegal contract should be the story. “This has no real value to you. Please sign here and become our free employee.” BIG trying to reframe it as tampering. Shame on them.
Seriously. How we are getting attacked instead of everyone seeing how egregiously the B10 is trying to take advantage of these kids is beyond me. A bunch of old, rich white men trying to exploit and profit off the labor of a black kid with an ailing father?? How is that not the story? 🤣
 
Seriously. How we are getting attacked instead of everyone seeing how egregiously the B10 is trying to take advantage of these kids is beyond me. A bunch of old, rich white men trying to exploit and profit off the labor of a black kid with an ailing father?? How is that not the story? 🤣
No chance Fickel, or any other Big Ten coach, isn't going to run some of these kids off on a two year contract when he doesn't want them anymore.
 
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What does Wisconsin really want?

If they want Lucas to play football for them, they can’t force it with a lawsuit. Courts won’t order specific performance of personal services because it’s one step removed from slavery.

If they want Lucas to play anywhere but Miami, they need the NCAA to block him. But there is no basis for that in the NCAA rules or past precedent. The worst penalty for tampering is a slap on the wrist. And the NCAA has already signaled they aren’t getting involved, because they don’t want to get sued and lose again. If anything, Wisconsin violated NCAA rules by not entering Lucas into the Portal as required by the by-laws.

If Wisconsin wants money from Miami, they need to show the existence of a binding contract and damages. There is no binding contract because the MOU was contingent on the settlement being approved and Lucas being enrolled at Wisconsin. He also never got paid.

And even if the contract was binding, how was Wisconsin damaged? They can’t say he was an employee contracted to play football. Are they going to say they lost millions in marketing value? It’s absurd.

It seems that Wisconsin is mad about losing the player, and the Big 10 is mad at the ACC for not playing the game. They want this to look like a mess so they can ask Congress to clean it up.

But the problem is the NCAA itself. Its business model is illegal. If Congress doesn’t protect them from getting sued, they will eventually collapse under the weight of litigation.

Just make it professional already. Keep all the school ties that make college football unique, allow the players to negotiate the rules with the coaches and schools, and get real business people involved. It’s inevitable.
 
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Seems like Wisconsin is implying Miami contacted this kid and he signed some binding agreement with them. Thus Miami tampered with him. Which we couldn’t have, since his agreement wasn’t binding. The whole thing is dumb as ****.

The loser here won’t be Miami. Sure, we could unlikely lose a good player. But if the kid has to go elsewhere it could make his life more difficult than needed. Wisconsin has now done irreparable damage to their program by choosing to die on this hill. Just makes no sense.
It sounds like it’s an agreement of sorts based on a condition precedent occurring in the future (congressional approval of a bill or a court approval of a settlement???) and no consideration was paid plus he also has to be enrolled at the school which is no longer the case. They’ve got 💩. On top of it, they didn’t follow the ncaa rules on the ncaa side of it.
 
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But the problem is the NCAA itself. Its business model is illegal. If Congress doesn’t protect them from getting sued, they will eventually collapse under the weight of litigation.
Time for Charlie Baker to earn his keep, this was the entire purpose of him getting the job, play politics.
 
What does Wisconsin really want?

If they want Lucas to play football for them, they can’t force it with a lawsuit. Courts won’t order specific performance of personal services because it’s one step removed from slavery.

If they want Lucas to play anywhere but Miami, they need the NCAA to block him. But there is no basis for that in the NCAA rules or past precedent. The worst penalty for tampering is a slap on the wrist. And the NCAA has already signaled they aren’t getting involved, because they don’t want to get sued and lose again. If anything, Wisconsin violated NCAA rules by not entering Lucas into the Portal as required by the by-laws.

If Wisconsin wants money from Miami, they need to show the existence of a binding contract and damages. There is no binding contract because the MOU was contingent on the settlement being approved and Lucas being enrolled at Wisconsin. He also never got paid.

And even if the contract was binding, how was Wisconsin damaged? They can’t say he was an employee contracted to play football. Are they going to say they lost millions in marketing value? It’s absurd.

It seems that Wisconsin is mad about losing the player, and the Big 10 is mad at the ACC for not playing the game. They want this to look like a mess so they can ask Congress to clean it up.

But the problem is the NCAA itself. Its business model is illegal. If Congress doesn’t protect them from getting sued, they will eventually collapse under the weight of litigation.

Just make it professional already. Keep all the school ties that make college football unique, allow the players to negotiate the rules with the coaches and schools, and get real business people involved. It’s inevitable.
The BiG is mad at the ACC for not playing the game.

Do you mean they expected the ACC to scold miami and make them drop the transfer of Lucas???

I’d like to see the ACC and miami state that Wisconsin tampered with Dyoni Hill, not that we care v
 
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