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Wisconsin accuses Miami of tampering

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GojiraCane said:
To use a wrestling analogy, how WCW is rumored to have tampered with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash in 1996. They used a friend employed by WCW to be the intermediary and gauge interest of the WWF contracted wrestlers.
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Oh I 100% believe we had a friend talk to him at some point. I’m not doubting we tampered. But to say credible evidence. That’s a bold *** claim. They are saying some paid employee reached out. If a friend playing in Miami sending a message saying come home is tampering better kill every program.
 
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I'm no attorney, but I thought for a contract to be a legal contract, there had to be an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

If he didn't get any money - no contract. No contract - no beef.

So what am I missing?
 
Interesting that Wisconsin and conference come out firing when the young man’s attorney indicated the school had been unresponsive. Apparently the attorney was hired because young man’s family had been given the cold shoulder.
 
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aelmiami said:
Oh I 100% believe we had a friend talk to him at some point. I’m not doubting we tampered. But to say credible evidence. That’s a bold *** claim. They are saying some paid employee reached out. If a friend playing in Miami sending a message saying come home is tampering better kill every program.
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But that’s not tampering. The tampering rule specifically says DIRECT contact is what’s prohibited.

Btw, Xavier’s attorney is (or at least used to be) an adjunct law professor at UM. He’s probably dialed into our compliance department.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
I'm no attorney, but I thought for a contract to be a legal contract, there had to be an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

If he didn't get any money - no contract. No contract - no beef.

So what am I missing?
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Yeah, my understanding of the facts is that Wisky made a contract (presumably unenforceable one, as well) with the kid, and then also neglected to pay the consideration on it. Kid got mad, wanted to come home/transfer somewhere. He asked UW to put him in the portal, they refused, he talked to lawyer, lawyer advised him he was in the clear with the contract, they can’t hold him hostage, just leave, so he did. Now Wisky is taking it out on UM as they are alleging we interfered with a contract, but 1) there are issues with the contract being enforceable and 2) whether there was even a legal contract could also be up in the air as well.

There are a few other issues, but yes, you are right about the fundamental contract flaws.
 
So glad we’re NOT ******* anymore. It was so PUKE worthy when our fan base was all “we are acting polite by not SUING to get into B10 because that’s how gentlemen act”
 
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caneingville said:
But that’s not tampering. The tampering rule specifically says DIRECT contact is what’s prohibited.

Btw, Xavier’s attorney is (or at least used to be) an adjunct law professor at UM. He’s probably dialed into our compliance department.
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I’m sure every program in America has players who contact friends, teammates, family members etc. Just them reaching out isn’t tampering per se. But if Mario has a player who’s close with Lucas gauging interest that could be what Wisconsin is insinuating happened here. It’s dumb as ****. I’d rather be the first school this happens to than one in the future. There’s clearly no hard lines in place. Which means no clear rules were broken by anyone. Worst case it’s a slap on the wrist for low level staffer and new guidelines are created.

If that lame nut reporter is saying he heard rumbling in the summer but sat on it he’s not working a strong case. I’m no lawyer but even I can see how ******* dumb this whole thing is by Wisconsin. They literally gain nothing here.
 
aelmiami said:
I’m sure every program in America has players who contact friends, teammates, family members etc. Just them reaching out isn’t tampering per se. But if Mario has a player who’s close with Lucas gauging interest that could be what Wisconsin is insinuating happened here. It’s dumb as ****. I’d rather be the first school this happens to than one in the future. There’s clearly no hard lines in place. Which means no clear rules were broken by anyone. Worst case it’s a slap on the wrist for low level staffer and new guidelines are created.

If that lame nut reporter is saying he heard rumbling in the summer but sat on it he’s not working a strong case. I’m no lawyer but even I can see how ******* dumb this whole thing is by Wisconsin. They literally gain nothing here.
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Xavier’s lawyer (edit - WHO IS A UM LAW PROF):

 
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