Wiltfong On Campbell

[Canedog]

Fawk yeah he get credit for Frierson. I didn't go to da same college as my cousin. WTF is this "he was Frank Gore's cousin so it don't count" sheeit?

 

[Gatorhater]

The bottom line in this is that if we cannot land Campbell it is an absolutely epic failure that would speak volumes about where we really are in terms of "coming back". This isn't negativity it's the stone cold truth and the reality of the situation. I'm not at all counting on Surtain to come but if this staff can't close on the Heritage 3 of Silvera, Chatfield and Campbell then we need to reassess the the recruiting ability of some of this staff and yes Mike Rumph would be part of that. Someone said we need to add one more monster recruiter and I couldn't agree more. We need to add an offensive whiz then perhaps go down to 1 coach for all DBs and add a LB coach. One of those guys needs to be a recruiting prodigy. I think that every year you need to reevaluate and upgrade your staff if necessary and possible.

Aside from the Rumph question, the one we really HAVE to land is the bad boy Silvera. DT is essential position and he is classic Cane DT. We can live without a cb but not DT. Good DTs make whoever is playing CB much better.

 

[ShadowSpring]

What are we panicking over now?

 

[pumbaa]

Fawk yeah he get credit for Frierson. I didn't go to da same college as my cousin. WTF is this "he was Frank Gore's cousin so it don't count" sheeit?

A Cane legend's family with an offer is usually an easy close is what I am saying.

 

[BeastMode]

What are we panicking over now?

They locked the other thread cause it was just a bunch on nonsense and now this is the same thing. We basically have the same thing happening with no actual information and just a bunch of crying over Rumph. Let’s just wait till he actually starts taking visits and doing interviews.

 

[umiamifan1]

We're still in the dead period, for fu*k's sake...give our coaches a chance to actually close the kid before we say that they can't.

 

[Pickle Richt]

The bottom line in this is that if we cannot land Campbell it is an absolutely epic failure that would speak volumes about where we really are in terms of "coming back". This isn't negativity it's the stone cold truth and the reality of the situation. I'm not at all counting on Surtain to come but if this staff can't close on the Heritage 3 of Silvera, Chatfield and Campbell then we need to reassess the the recruiting ability of some of this staff and yes Mike Rumph would be part of that. Someone said we need to add one more monster recruiter and I couldn't agree more. We need to add an offensive whiz then perhaps go down to 1 coach for all DBs and add a LB coach. One of those guys needs to be a recruiting prodigy. I think that every year you need to reevaluate and upgrade your staff if necessary and possible.

Aside from the Rumph question, the one we really HAVE to land is the bad boy Silvera. DT is essential position and he is classic Cane DT. We can live without a cb but not DT. Good DTs make whoever is playing CB much better.

The opposite is true as well, they call it a "coverage sack". We absolutely need both if we not only want to compete for championships, but to win them. Putting up the wall around South Florida is the only way.

 

[orange&green84]

I think the issue is that two elite players with substantial ties to Rumph (and one of whom has a parent indebted to Rumph for getting him a job) both have no interest in playing for Rumph. Raises some serious red flags. I don't think bag game has any effect on Campbell or PS2. Is Rumph just coming off as a total *** to recruits? They think he isn't a good coach and will hold them back? I don't know the answer. I still have confidence that Richt can close, but it's curious as to why it looks like the two best corner recruits in the country, who play at the HS where Rumph coached, want to have nothing to do with him.

U have to have charisma to recruit....look at banda he looks like a dude anybody here would chill with. Look at the way Rumph is he look boring as fuq when he talks. Thats just on the outside looking in i can totally be off n wrong about it but i know **** well if i was crootin im getting every target pwriod they wont say no to me.

Banda hasn’t done any better than Rumph in recruiting, last time I checked he lost his top targets in 2017 class and jobe In 2018. He closed on hall so I’ll give him that

Banda closed on arguably the best safety in the nation in Hall. He was also Frierson's recruiter as well.

I'm not putting Jobe on Banda. That kid was flaky from the jump as I called that recruitment since last cycle. Just because some of you thought it's the staff's fault, doesn't mean it is. Banda can recruit, at least compared to Rumph.

I will give him Hall, but Frierson? That is Frank Gore's cousin, I am not sure he was going anywhere else.

UGA was solid on him. He visited them a couple of times which means he was interested.

We lost Tim Irvin (playmaker's nephew) during the Al Golden era. Legacies aren't always a lock.

 

[BrentIsACuckGBRsucks]

We're still in the dead period, for fu*k's sake...give our coaches a chance to actually close the kid before we say that they can't.

:sanford:

 

[ShadowSpring]

We are still up on the magical crystal ball from 247..........58-21 over Georgia.

We are the leader, and he's already been there twice.

I get it, our recruiting under Golden was pure crap and we couldn't land hardly anybody. For me this goes back all the way to PJ - PP fiasco and losing him. We need top DB's to stay home again. #sorm18 is a different era fam. Now is the time for big boy pants and a little confidence in our Canes.

 

[SinisterCane]

While it would be a **** shame if we miss out on Campbell(who I still think we get), it's definitely not a fireable offense for Rumph lol. The secondary was considered a weak spot coming into the season yet people are still using the end of the season struggles against the pass as Ann indictment solely of Rumph, which doesn't make sense. He's done a good job with our DBs and expect them as a group to only improve with the increase in talent coming in.

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Things more important right now:

1. Improving the DL depth
2. A competent 10th coach
3. LB recruiting
4. Signing one more OT
5. Getting Perry ready for the spring

Campbell is the best prosect in the nation at his position, but he is a want, not a need atm. Please please please guys, just let his recruitment play out, bc those tears might be better reserved for more pressing matters that may not be addressed.

After watching our DBs get torched by a very average Wisconsin QB I think he's a need.

I watched the Wiltfong video and I don't feel good about it. If the story about the GA visit is true...

some of these cry about Miami not being elite, then have the nerve to say we don't "need" the best **** CB in the nation. someone who also happens to be from south florida. smh

Tell me why we cant still have an elite secondary?

Tell me Im wrong on this. In terms recruiting need rn, it goes: 1. Dt, 2. DE, 3. LB, 4. OT, 5. CB.

We need Campbell, but dont NEED him. Hes our most wanted recruit. Theres no reason he shouldnt be a Cane. Not getting him would be shameful. But w that said, were still good at DB and trending in the right direction.

Regarding the bowl performance, tho our Delaney and co. Leave alot to be desired, weve brought in upgrades and I place most of the blame for that performance on Diaz who by far was the worst coordinatpr on staff. Dont let the chain fool you. He called an absolute abomination of a game. Even Griese called him put. That anonymous ACC coach was correct. Not totally sold on our DC.

 

[Tony Perps]

Things more important right now:

1. Improving the DL depth
2. A competent 10th coach
3. LB recruiting
4. Signing one more OT
5. Getting Perry ready for the spring

Campbell is the best prosect in the nation at his position, but he is a want, not a need atm. Please please please guys, just let his recruitment play out, bc those tears might be better reserved for more pressing matters that may not be addressed.

After watching our DBs get torched by a very average Wisconsin QB I think he's a need.

I watched the Wiltfong video and I don't feel good about it. If the story about the GA visit is true...

some of these cry about Miami not being elite, then have the nerve to say we don't "need" the best **** CB in the nation. someone who also happens to be from south florida. smh

Tell me why we cant still have an elite secondary?

Tell me Im wrong on this. In terms recruiting need rn, it goes: 1. Dt, 2. DE, 3. LB, 4. OT, 5. CB.

We need Campbell, but dont NEED him. Hes our nost wanted recruit. Theres no eeason he shouldnt be a Cane. Not getting him would be shameful. But w that said, were still good at DB and trending in the right direction.

Regarding the bowl performance, tho our Delabey and co. Leave alot to be desired, weve brought in upgrades and I place most of the blame for that performance on Diaz who by far was the worst coordinatpr on staff. Dont let the chain fool upu. He called an absolute abomination of a game. Even Griese called him put. That anonymous ACC coach was correct. Not totally sold on our DC.

Wrong. Campbell is 100% a must get.

 

[Hurracanes]

While it would be a **** shame if we miss out on Campbell(who I still think we get), it's definitely not a fireable offense for Rumph lol. The secondary was considered a weak spot coming into the season yet people are still using the end of the season struggles against the pass as Ann indictment solely of Rumph, which doesn't make sense. He's done a good job with our DBs and expect them as a group to only improve with the increase in talent coming in.

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

 

[The Franchise]

Quit trying to spin it. Miss out on Campbell and Surtain, the top 2 CBs in the country from right down the street, who were both coached by and have a long-standing relationship with our CB coach, and it's one of the most epic fails in Canes recruiting history.

That doesn't mean we can't rebound from it, or that it's "close the program" time or toxicity time. It means that it's a massive fail on potentially a never-seen-before scale since the early 80s.

It's not always all or nothing though. We can fail catastrophically, as losing the top 2 CBs in the country with long-standing relationships with our CB coach would be, and we can still build a good team. As long as failures like this don't morph into the toxicity we saw build around the program a couple years into the Folden error, we can rebound.

UM needs to find a way to ride the high of a 10 win Coastal champion Orange Bowl season into a great February close. Whether that means Rick needs to take a super hands-on approach with the remaining big targets or getting bad recruiters out of the game for now I don't know. We can't just sit back and say, "well we tried...you can't force them to come here."

 

[The Franchise]

While it would be a **** shame if we miss out on Campbell(who I still think we get), it's definitely not a fireable offense for Rumph lol. The secondary was considered a weak spot coming into the season yet people are still using the end of the season struggles against the pass as Ann indictment solely of Rumph, which doesn't make sense. He's done a good job with our DBs and expect them as a group to only improve with the increase in talent coming in.

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Things more important right now:

1. Improving the DL depth
2. A competent 10th coach
3. LB recruiting
4. Signing one more OT
5. Getting Perry ready for the spring

Campbell is the best prosect in the nation at his position, but he is a want, not a need atm. Please please please guys, just let his recruitment play out, bc those tears might be better reserved for more pressing matters that may not be addressed.

After watching our DBs get torched by a very average Wisconsin QB I think he's a need.

I watched the Wiltfong video and I don't feel good about it. If the story about the GA visit is true...

some of these cry about Miami not being elite, then have the nerve to say we don't "need" the best **** CB in the nation. someone who also happens to be from south florida. smh

Tell me why we cant still have an elite secondary?

Tell me Im wrong on this. In terms recruiting need rn, it goes: 1. Dt, 2. DE, 3. LB, 4. OT, 5. CB.

We need Campbell, but dont NEED him. Hes our nost wanted recruit. Theres no eeason he shouldnt be a Cane. Not getting him would be shameful. But w that said, were still good at DB and trending in the right direction.

Regarding the bowl performance, tho our Delabey and co. Leave alot to be desired, weve brought in upgrades and I place most of the blame for that performance on Diaz who by far was the worst coordinatpr on staff. Dont let the chain fool upu. He called an absolute abomination of a game. Even Griese called him put. That anonymous ACC coach was correct. Not totally sold on our DC.

Wrong. Campbell is 100% a must get.

Disagree, but to each his own. He is a must get like Cook or Patrick Peterson or Matthew Thomas or Valentine were. None of those guys would've put us over (Valentine didn't even play). Made us better? Sure. But how many ships did they win for LSU or FSU?

TC is probably the best DB prospect in over a decade down here. I don't think anyone is in his class. But I like out haul with or without him.

 

[Tony Perps]

After watching our DBs get torched by a very average Wisconsin QB I think he's a need.

I watched the Wiltfong video and I don't feel good about it. If the story about the GA visit is true...

some of these cry about Miami not being elite, then have the nerve to say we don't "need" the best **** CB in the nation. someone who also happens to be from south florida. smh

Tell me why we cant still have an elite secondary?

Tell me Im wrong on this. In terms recruiting need rn, it goes: 1. Dt, 2. DE, 3. LB, 4. OT, 5. CB.

We need Campbell, but dont NEED him. Hes our nost wanted recruit. Theres no eeason he shouldnt be a Cane. Not getting him would be shameful. But w that said, were still good at DB and trending in the right direction.

Regarding the bowl performance, tho our Delabey and co. Leave alot to be desired, weve brought in upgrades and I place most of the blame for that performance on Diaz who by far was the worst coordinatpr on staff. Dont let the chain fool upu. He called an absolute abomination of a game. Even Griese called him put. That anonymous ACC coach was correct. Not totally sold on our DC.

Wrong. Campbell is 100% a must get.

Disagree, but to each his own. He is a must get like Cook or Patrick Peterson or Matthew Thomas or Valentine were. None of those guys would've put us over (Valentine didn't even play). Made us better? Sure. But how many ships did they win for LSU or FSU?

TC is probably the best DB prospect in over a decade down here. I don't think anyone is in his class. But I like out haul with or without him.

What a stupid ******* post

 

[supersaiyanshel]

some of these cry about Miami not being elite, then have the nerve to say we don't "need" the best **** CB in the nation. someone who also happens to be from south florida. smh

Tell me why we cant still have an elite secondary?

Tell me Im wrong on this. In terms recruiting need rn, it goes: 1. Dt, 2. DE, 3. LB, 4. OT, 5. CB.

We need Campbell, but dont NEED him. Hes our nost wanted recruit. Theres no eeason he shouldnt be a Cane. Not getting him would be shameful. But w that said, were still good at DB and trending in the right direction.

Regarding the bowl performance, tho our Delabey and co. Leave alot to be desired, weve brought in upgrades and I place most of the blame for that performance on Diaz who by far was the worst coordinatpr on staff. Dont let the chain fool upu. He called an absolute abomination of a game. Even Griese called him put. That anonymous ACC coach was correct. Not totally sold on our DC.

Wrong. Campbell is 100% a must get.

Disagree, but to each his own. He is a must get like Cook or Patrick Peterson or Matthew Thomas or Valentine were. None of those guys would've put us over (Valentine didn't even play). Made us better? Sure. But how many ships did they win for LSU or FSU?

TC is probably the best DB prospect in over a decade down here. I don't think anyone is in his class. But I like out haul with or without him.

What a stupid ****ing post

What that TC is the best DB prospect in over a decade? Or that Cook, Peterson, Thomas or Valentine, put didn't put their teams over. Those two points are, at the very least pretty hard to argue against.

As far as the second portion, okay, that's just, like your opinion man. But, call me crazy (or stupid again if you like), but I'm more concerned about our DL, OL, LB, and QB depth and play next season than DB.

 

[ShadowSpring]

We need Tyson and if we don't get him it would suck.

Ok. We all agree. Close thread.