Wiltfong On Campbell

[Hurracanes]

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

 

[brock]

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

Yeah nesta stated this week that he has known coach Rumph since he was 8 years old and his family trust him

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

Yeah nesta stated this week that he has known coach Rumph since he was 8 years old and his family trust him

It's a touch biz man. Kirby pretty much fired Tracy rocker for ******** up with a single recruit. Don't know if Richt is that cutthroat, but it's not unprecedented. Bottom line: I like Rumph and think he's a great coach, but tbh, some of these AH kids should've been locked up in their junior years.

 

[CaneFanWNY]

I don't even know why the last Campbell thread got locked...same amount of bish ***-ness going on ITT

 

[brock]

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

Yeah nesta stated this week that he has known coach Rumph since he was 8 years old and his family trust him

It's a touch biz man. Kirby pretty much fired Tracy rocker for ******** up with a single recruit. Don't know if Richt is that cutthroat, but it's not unprecedented. Bottom line: I like Rumph and think he's a great coach, but tbh, some of these AH kids should've been locked up in their junior years.

Yeah but people got understand Campbell just ain’t no regular recruit. He is that good and has been Miami, Bama, Ohio state , uga #1 target on their board at corner. With that being said we still should land him though

 

[SinisterCane]

While it would be a **** shame if we miss out on Campbell(who I still think we get), it's definitely not a fireable offense for Rumph lol. The secondary was considered a weak spot coming into the season yet people are still using the end of the season struggles against the pass as Ann indictment solely of Rumph, which doesn't make sense. He's done a good job with our DBs and expect them as a group to only improve with the increase in talent coming in.

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Did you have Pete and Rumph's DiQ in your mouth when you typed this BS. lol Pete is the seal of approval for college coaches

 

[supersaiyanshel]

Pete has endorsed Rumph? Where and when? What form did that endorsement take?

If Rumph gets the AH4 or at least 3 of them, then he's turned the corner. Anything less than 3, and it's a major fail.

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

Yeah nesta stated this week that he has known coach Rumph since he was 8 years old and his family trust him

It's a touch biz man. Kirby pretty much fired Tracy rocker for ******** up with a single recruit. Don't know if Richt is that cutthroat, but it's not unprecedented. Bottom line: I like Rumph and think he's a great coach, but tbh, some of these AH kids should've been locked up in their junior years.

Yeah but people got understand Campbell just ain’t no regular recruit. He is that good and has been Miami, Bama, Ohio state , uga #1 target on their board at corner. With that being said we still should land him though

I'm not talking about just Campbell tho. I'm still ****ed he wasn't able to get guys like Brian Burns for example. You hire a HS coach just to make those kind of big time moves. I don't care how long FSU was recruiting him, HE PLAYED FOR YOU. He also should've been early advocates for guys like Slaton, Houston, and Chatfield. Like Barrow was for Perryman.

I'm not saying the guy should be fired, but it's hard to argue against some of his recruiting follies.

 

[brock]

In late 2016 or early 2017 on this board Pete has posted Rumph’s positive impact on recruiting with specific players (players name escape my mind).

If we get Campbell and Nesta it’s a success. We got late in the game with Chatfield but hopefully we can get him too. Either way, the Rumph hate will continue.

Yeah nesta stated this week that he has known coach Rumph since he was 8 years old and his family trust him

It's a touch biz man. Kirby pretty much fired Tracy rocker for ******** up with a single recruit. Don't know if Richt is that cutthroat, but it's not unprecedented. Bottom line: I like Rumph and think he's a great coach, but tbh, some of these AH kids should've been locked up in their junior years.

Yeah but people got understand Campbell just ain’t no regular recruit. He is that good and has been Miami, Bama, Ohio state , uga #1 target on their board at corner. With that being said we still should land him though

I'm not talking about just Campbell tho. I'm still ****ed he wasn't able to get guys like Brian Burns for example. You hire a HS coach just to make those kind of big time moves. I don't care how long FSU was recruiting him, HE PLAYED FOR YOU. He also should've been early advocates for guys like Slaton, Houston, and Chatfield. Like Barrow was for Perryman.

I'm not saying the guy should be fired, but it's hard to argue against some of his recruiting follies.

Brian burns just didn’t want to be at Miami period. Remember when rich and was at uga they led for burns and he was going to commit there, and then richt got fired, all the signs aligned for the U with richt and Rumph and he still didn’t give UM a chance. Sometimes it is what it is

And from what I remember The staff didn’t recruit Slaton like that after he was set on playing dt

 

[bransuperpower]

malek young: 3 star came because of richt
Trajan Bandy: 4 star came because of st26
Jhavonte Dean: 4 star juco could be some Rumph but local kid and playtime was probably most attractive

so not including the guys we just signed this is what Rumph has done to date. this is **** poor and would not be tolerated at any elite program in america. you want to compete with fl state? they just signed a 5 star db from cali with out a db coach, you want to compete with Florida? they just signed 4 4 star cbs last class. it comes a time we have to stop with the excuses and hold this staff accountable for **** poor results in recruiting.

Guys like D.J. Ivey, Gilbert Frierson, and Al Blades Jr. are all good miami caliber recruits and maybe one of these guys can be a day 1 draft pick.

 

[CanesFan20]

To be honest are DBs looked poorly coached in the Wisconsin game. They we're getting destroyed on 50/50 balls because they were not playing the ball in air at all. If we don't get Campbell things are not looking good for Rumph. That would be 2 Top 100 DBs that we missed on.

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[dukebeeasy305]

malek young: 3 star came because of richt
Trajan Bandy: 4 star came because of st26
Jhavonte Dean: 4 star juco could be some Rumph but local kid and playtime was probably most attractive

so not including the guys we just signed this is what Rumph has done to date. this is **** poor and would not be tolerated at any elite program in america. you want to compete with fl state? they just signed a 5 star db from cali with out a db coach, you want to compete with Florida? they just signed 4 4 star cbs last class. it comes a time we have to stop with the excuses and hold this staff accountable for **** poor results in recruiting.

Guys like D.J. Ivey, Gilbert Frierson, and Al Blades Jr. are all good miami caliber recruits and maybe one of these guys can be a day 1 draft pick.

How convenient to not include the 3 4 star SIGNED prospects.. difference between our program and the others they've had recent success on the eyes of these recruits.. It's obvious recruits are now buying into Miami again

 

[MotoSniper]

While it would be a **** shame if we miss out on Campbell(who I still think we get), it's definitely not a fireable offense for Rumph lol. The secondary was considered a weak spot coming into the season yet people are still using the end of the season struggles against the pass as Ann indictment solely of Rumph, which doesn't make sense. He's done a good job with our DBs and expect them as a group to only improve with the increase in talent coming in.

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

You guys crack me up, just bc a dude (Rumph) coached kids in HS doesn't make the kids obligated or any more likely to go to the school that said coach now coaches at. This is flawed logic. You hope that the previous relationship gets us at the table, but the salesman piece doesn't change based on the previous relationship. It's all about what have you done lately, and can you get me to the league, point blank.

And for the record, Slaton wanted to come to us, but we didn't want him after Hebert & Hillary signed on.

I don't agree with this.

No one said the kids were obligated in anyway to come to Miami if Rumph was here. However, the fact that not one of them wants to come thus far is concerning with the exception of Silvera (not signed).

Slaton wanted to play DT, which we didn't want him at. The staff wanted him at guard, which is his money position. It had nothing to do with Herbert and Hillery (who are tackles).

Maybe no one has said it exactly verbatim as I have, but it has been implied or articulated plenty that kids somehow should be "Layups" to come here bc of Rumph...that's having expectations to me. You can't state that "not one of them wants to come" and then say "except Silvera" as a legitimate counter point bc it contradicts itself. One does want to come 100% apparently, and another is a 75% or higher probability (Chatfield). Tyson is a 50/50 coin flip at this point. That's 3 very talented AH kids that possibly/likely end up in our class so, we must wait and see what the outcome is. If all 3 come than 99% of posters will be all about "The Great Rumph Recruiter."

You are correct about Slaton wanting to be a DT, but we stopped recruiting the kid and even entertaining the prospect when we got both Herbert & Hilary...Pete eluded to this himself in his "Work" rollup leading up to signing day.

 

[orange&green84]

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

You guys crack me up, just bc a dude (Rumph) coached kids in HS doesn't make the kids obligated or any more likely to go to the school that said coach now coaches at. This is flawed logic. You hope that the previous relationship gets us at the table, but the salesman piece doesn't change based on the previous relationship. It's all about what have you done lately, and can you get me to the league, point blank.

And for the record, Slaton wanted to come to us, but we didn't want him after Hebert & Hillary signed on.

I don't agree with this.

No one said the kids were obligated in anyway to come to Miami if Rumph was here. However, the fact that not one of them wants to come thus far is concerning with the exception of Silvera (not signed).

Slaton wanted to play DT, which we didn't want him at. The staff wanted him at guard, which is his money position. It had nothing to do with Herbert and Hillery (who are tackles).

Maybe no one has said it exactly verbatim as I have, but it has been implied or articulated plenty that kids somehow should be "Layups" to come here bc of Rumph...that's having expectations to me. You can't state that "not one of them wants to come" and then say "except Silvera" as a legitimate counter point bc it contradicts itself. One does want to come 100% apparently, and another is a 75% or higher probability (Chatfield). Tyson is a 50/50 coin flip at this point. That's 3 very talented AH kids that possibly/likely end up in our class so, we must wait and see what the outcome is. If all 3 come than 99% of posters will be all about "The Great Rumph Recruiter."

You are correct about Slaton wanting to be a DT, but we stopped recruiting the kid and even entertaining the prospect when we got both Herbert & Hilary...Pete eluded to this himself in his "Work" rollup leading up to signing day.

Silvera's the exception because Kool's also his recruiter and Kool's track record probably sold him.

The reason why some consider TC a supposed layup is because Rumph has been coaching this kid since his optimist days and Campbell himself said he considers Rumph a father figure type.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Quit trying to spin it. Miss out on Campbell and Surtain, the top 2 CBs in the country from right down the street, who were both coached by and have a long-standing relationship with our CB coach, and it's one of the most epic fails in Canes recruiting history.

That doesn't mean we can't rebound from it, or that it's "close the program" time or toxicity time. It means that it's a massive fail on potentially a never-seen-before scale since the early 80s.

It's not always all or nothing though. We can fail catastrophically, as losing the top 2 CBs in the country with long-standing relationships with our CB coach would be, and we can still build a good team. As long as failures like this don't morph into the toxicity we saw build around the program a couple years into the Folden error, we can rebound.

UM needs to find a way to ride the high of a 10 win Coastal champion Orange Bowl season into a great February close. Whether that means Rick needs to take a super hands-on approach with the remaining big targets or getting bad recruiters out of the game for now I don't know. We can't just sit back and say, "well we tried...you can't force them to come here."

U cant say anything bad about Rumph or the crosses and wooden steaks group will say no hes good.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

You guys crack me up, just bc a dude (Rumph) coached kids in HS doesn't make the kids obligated or any more likely to go to the school that said coach now coaches at. This is flawed logic. You hope that the previous relationship gets us at the table, but the salesman piece doesn't change based on the previous relationship. It's all about what have you done lately, and can you get me to the league, point blank.

And for the record, Slaton wanted to come to us, but we didn't want him after Hebert & Hillary signed on.

I don't agree with this.

No one said the kids were obligated in anyway to come to Miami if Rumph was here. However, the fact that not one of them wants to come thus far is concerning with the exception of Silvera (not signed).

Slaton wanted to play DT, which we didn't want him at. The staff wanted him at guard, which is his money position. It had nothing to do with Herbert and Hillery (who are tackles).

Maybe no one has said it exactly verbatim as I have, but it has been implied or articulated plenty that kids somehow should be "Layups" to come here bc of Rumph...that's having expectations to me. You can't state that "not one of them wants to come" and then say "except Silvera" as a legitimate counter point bc it contradicts itself. One does want to come 100% apparently, and another is a 75% or higher probability (Chatfield). Tyson is a 50/50 coin flip at this point. That's 3 very talented AH kids that possibly/likely end up in our class so, we must wait and see what the outcome is. If all 3 come than 99% of posters will be all about "The Great Rumph Recruiter."

You are correct about Slaton wanting to be a DT, but we stopped recruiting the kid and even entertaining the prospect when we got both Herbert & Hilary...Pete eluded to this himself in his "Work" rollup leading up to signing day.

Silvera's the exception because Kool's also his recruiter and Kool's track record probably sold him.

The reason why some consider TC a supposed layup is because Rumph has been coaching this kid since his optimist days and Campbell himself said he considers Rumph a father figure type.

Nesta was a cane if Golden was here, we r his dream school and his pulled the trigger like 1 day after the offer. Not hard to recruit him

 

[Canes_]

If you can't land an elite DB that considers you family, you aren't landing them ever.

Next few weeks should be make or break for Rumph (and Banda). If there's a flop, I'd look for a proven DB coach and use the other spot for a LB coach.

 

[TheMatador]

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

You guys crack me up, just bc a dude (Rumph) coached kids in HS doesn't make the kids obligated or any more likely to go to the school that said coach now coaches at. This is flawed logic. You hope that the previous relationship gets us at the table, but the salesman piece doesn't change based on the previous relationship. It's all about what have you done lately, and can you get me to the league, point blank.

And for the record, Slaton wanted to come to us, but we didn't want him after Hebert & Hillary signed on.

I don't agree with this.

No one said the kids were obligated in anyway to come to Miami if Rumph was here. However, the fact that not one of them wants to come thus far is concerning with the exception of Silvera (not signed).

Slaton wanted to play DT, which we didn't want him at. The staff wanted him at guard, which is his money position. It had nothing to do with Herbert and Hillery (who are tackles).

Maybe no one has said it exactly verbatim as I have, but it has been implied or articulated plenty that kids somehow should be "Layups" to come here bc of Rumph...that's having expectations to me. You can't state that "not one of them wants to come" and then say "except Silvera" as a legitimate counter point bc it contradicts itself. One does want to come 100% apparently, and another is a 75% or higher probability (Chatfield). Tyson is a 50/50 coin flip at this point. That's 3 very talented AH kids that possibly/likely end up in our class so, we must wait and see what the outcome is. If all 3 come than 99% of posters will be all about "The Great Rumph Recruiter."

You are correct about Slaton wanting to be a DT, but we stopped recruiting the kid and even entertaining the prospect when we got both Herbert & Hilary...Pete eluded to this himself in his "Work" rollup leading up to signing day.

Silvera's the exception because Kool's also his recruiter and Kool's track record probably sold him.

The reason why some consider TC a supposed layup is because Rumph has been coaching this kid since his optimist days and Campbell himself said he considers Rumph a father figure type.

"Father figure"? Many kids, when they are ready to go to college, want to get away from their parents. That probably includes "father figures" too.

Rumph might be all that to Campbell, but maybe he feels he'd like to get out from under his wings. Wiltfong said he spoke to TC for about 15 minutes, and he got a very strong feeling that TC was all about Georgia. Another poster here seems to think he knows what TC and his family are thinking and that they loved the visit to Georgia. Despite that, Wiltfong said that for now he will keep the crystal ball for Miami. He sounded like he could easily change it to Georgia.

I'm not saying this can't change but our staff has to persuade him and the family that the U is the place to be.

Please don't neg me, I'm just trying to be realistic and point out that there's some information---perhaps good, perhaps not, that suggests we have a fight on our hands.

 

[gacaneaddict]

You have to be an elite recruiter. You got to find the tipping point to Miami.

If it’s Mark Richt’s thing he is starting for graduates to help them in their careers.

If it’s getting President Frank to spend time with Campbell’s parents to push the academic angle.

If it’s the idea of your family being able to drive to see you play.

The cost savings of your parents being able to drive to see you play.

If it’s when fall camp is going tough, and it can get overwhelming for freshman sometimes, you can hop in your car drive home for a good home cooked meal.

If you get hurt you have your family close by for support instead of being hundreds of miles from home.

 

[canesbaby]

I'm not going to sift through the last 10 pages of everyone arguing back and forth about every breath TC takes. Has Rattler weighed in in this thread recently? If not, I won't bother reading until he does.

 

[Hurracanes]

So Rumph should get a pass for bad recruiting and for us not covering anyone this year? Sounds good to me.

Bottom line: Make a big play with the AH 4, or beat it.

Spot on. Pete has said quite a few times that the 2018 class was THE class Richt had been focusing on since he became HC. So then its reasonable to assume he hired Rumph specifically to bring in players from AH, in the 2018 class. Yes, Rumph is a former Cane and a former NFL player. But those aren't the reasons Richt hired him. Kevin Beard checked off both of those boxes as well. Maybe I'm wrong and Richt brought in a guy who had no college coaching experience, to coach defensive backs, just because he is a former alum. But if thats not the case... and Rumph misses on Campbell... all **** SHOULD break loose.

Rumph missed on Marco Wilson, even though he coached him in high school and his dad played at Miami. The damage Golden did to the Miami - Wilson relationship should've been repaired with the hiring of Rumph. It wasn't. Lots of posters say Rumph had a hand in getting Surtain Sr the job at AH. So of course Surtain Jr rarely mentions Miami when discussing recruiting and leaves us out every time he names his top one billion. Slaton went to Florida. Herbert spurned him and was committed to Michigan for 6 months. Its also rumored that UFag not having an O-Line coach is what saved us with him.

To be clear I don't dislike Rumph. But if he misses out on Campbell, he can take a hike.

Don't forget that Rumph is a plan B C hire, CMR went hard in the paint for LSU's Corey Raymond at first

Don’t forget that Pete has endorsed Rumph in recruiting and on the field in the past. Recruits have gone on record praising him. But you es can continue your on with your anti Rumph shtick.

Did you have Pete and Rumph's DiQ in your mouth when you typed this BS. lol Pete is the seal of approval for college coaches

I’d take Pete’s word on anything that has to do with recruiting over your phaaggot ***. Let alone, an actual recruit.