What's your opinion on Donna Shalala?

My kid goes to the U, from California. The fact that there is a "buzz" about the U that reaches the west coast and is focused on the rising stature of the school is certainly part of her role as President of the school. If you dont think attracting big political events/debates/speakers is tied in to her connections you guys are crazy.

In addition, I have met her on campus and heard her speak. She is smart and an impressive force on campus.

The kid wanted to go the U beacuse of Billy Corben (30 for 30) and I wanted him to go because of Donna. (and Al Golden)

Just for the record. Shalala HATED the 30 for 30. All that we old skool Canes fans love about UM, she despises. Jerome Brown and those guys would never be allowed on the current UM teams. She single handedly squashed any follow up to the 30/30 by strong arming the ex players and current coaches/players from participating.

See, that's what the Shalala fans never address. The fact that swagger and in your face confidence that all grew to love, is the very mindset she has worked hard to kill. She wants bookworms who play sports and not athletes who win titles.

Like I said, keep as Dean of Students but keep her away from the Footbal team. Win win for all of us. But no, the troll must rule from her ant pile. It's always someone elses fault with her.

Didn't Shalala go out of her way to get Willie Williams into school, even going so far as to speak about him in a press conference?

Didn't Shalala allow Golden to get recent guys like Eddie Johnson and various others who've been referred to on these boards as "old school" type thugs?

Give me a break; she's not requiring 3.0 GPA chemical engineers and choirboys here. Your post is a load of ****.

Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!
 
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For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...
 
Just for the record. Shalala HATED the 30 for 30. All that we old skool Canes fans love about UM, she despises. Jerome Brown and those guys would never be allowed on the current UM teams. She single handedly squashed any follow up to the 30/30 by strong arming the ex players and current coaches/players from participating.

See, that's what the Shalala fans never address. The fact that swagger and in your face confidence that all grew to love, is the very mindset she has worked hard to kill. She wants bookworms who play sports and not athletes who win titles.

Like I said, keep as Dean of Students but keep her away from the Footbal team. Win win for all of us. But no, the troll must rule from her ant pile. It's always someone elses fault with her.

Didn't Shalala go out of her way to get Willie Williams into school, even going so far as to speak about him in a press conference?

Didn't Shalala allow Golden to get recent guys like Eddie Johnson and various others who've been referred to on these boards as "old school" type thugs?

Give me a break; she's not requiring 3.0 GPA chemical engineers and choirboys here. Your post is a load of ****.

Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

We'll agree to disagree...
 
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Has Chuck Neinas been blamed for the Shannon hire yet?

In all seriousness, hiring Shannon made logical sense at the time. He's not eloquent, but he had a solid résumé as a DC, he's an alumnus, and strong ties to South Florida.

Shannon didn't fail because he's not great speaker. He failed because he's a weirdo and he didn't know how to implement his plan (which I'm sure looked all nice and shiny when he interviewed for the job).

If Shannon knew what he was doing and had the same speaking skills, he would've been successful.
 
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For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.
 
For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.

What are you waiting for? If you don't like Donna so much and blame everything on her then man up and get it done so you can move on. Only a ***** would stay at some job they hate working for someone they can't stand.

It becomes so much clearer though now. Those supposed facts you were posting weren't facts at all.
 
Didn't Shalala go out of her way to get Willie Williams into school, even going so far as to speak about him in a press conference?

Didn't Shalala allow Golden to get recent guys like Eddie Johnson and various others who've been referred to on these boards as "old school" type thugs?

Give me a break; she's not requiring 3.0 GPA chemical engineers and choirboys here. Your post is a load of ****.

Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.
She was his boss, not the other way around. Dee ran the AD dept but STILL had to go through her for hiring's, firing's and dollar amounts. Why is that so hard to follow.
The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Not bashing Golden. Just not crowing him anything. Why? It's simple, he hasn't won anything in which to crown. For the record, I hope he is wildly successful and stays here 20 + years.

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

Just like she can't act like she wasn't mustache deep in having her hand out, without her or the University vetting him properly. How come Shannon knew dude was trouble but Donna didn't? She was ok as long as the checks were rolling in.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

I am apolitical. Can't stand politicians or labels. I could care less if she is Dumbocrat or a Repugnantcan. I hate both parties. But nice try anyway. You guys are swinging for the bleachers in attempt to land a knockout blow, but when I have facts, well I'll be standing when the bell rings.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

I gave Donna much credit for what she has done for the school. She deserves the praise for that without question. But it is her supporters that fail to accept any wrongdoing or shortcomings on her part. As for the billions she raised, that was great. But what about the millions she has squandered? Oh, don't wanna go there do we? The med school is in a financial mess BECAUSE of her handpicked(can't blame Dee or anyone else) cronies all over the med school. Read the Herald for the articles that detail the corruption, cronyism and possible fraud going on there. But let me guess, the Herald hates UM so the article must be just a hack piece. Gotcha.
We'll agree to disagree...

Yes and it is that simple. I love UM with every fiber of being and want to see it be better and I know it can be better.

Great post. See my comments in Red.
 
For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.

What are you waiting for? If you don't like Donna so much and blame everything on her then man up and get it done so you can move on. Only a **** would stay at some job they hate working for someone they can't stand.

It becomes so much clearer though now. Those supposed facts you were posting weren't facts at all.

I will be leaving on my time, on my schedule. But I appreciate the concern. You must be good peeps to care so much about someone you never met.

by the way, I love my job. Hate the boss. I'm sure millions feel the same way. Should they all leave en masse?
 
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Didn't Shalala go out of her way to get Willie Williams into school, even going so far as to speak about him in a press conference?

Didn't Shalala allow Golden to get recent guys like Eddie Johnson and various others who've been referred to on these boards as "old school" type thugs?

Give me a break; she's not requiring 3.0 GPA chemical engineers and choirboys here. Your post is a load of ****.

Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

We'll agree to disagree...


Let's get something straight. Donna Shalala didn't give us a new athletic facility, the Schwartz family did.
 
Has Chuck Neinas been blamed for the Shannon hire yet?

In all seriousness, hiring Shannon made logical sense at the time. He's not eloquent, but he had a solid résumé as a DC, he's an alumnus, and strong ties to South Florida.

Shannon didn't fail because he's not great speaker. He failed because he's a weirdo and he didn't know how to implement his plan (which I'm sure looked all nice and shiny when he interviewed for the job).

If Shannon knew what he was doing and had the same speaking skills, he would've been successful.

He had never been a head coach before at any level. Let me ask you this - if Randy Shannon were such a great hire "at the time," why did they pay him 1/3 of what they paid Larry Coker?
 
Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.
She was his boss, not the other way around. Dee ran the AD dept but STILL had to go through her for hiring's, firing's and dollar amounts. Why is that so hard to follow. No ****? Paul Dee had to go to his boss for hirings, firings, and such? I'm so sure that Paul Dee who had multiple National Titles under his belt went to his boss and asked if he could have a contract extension for Larry Coker who had just won a National Championship. What an idiot Donna Shalala was for granting such a thing? I mean she got to Miami and took the advice of Paul Dee? What an idiot! Once again in hindsight you look brilliant with your 20/20 expert analysis but that's not how the real world works where people have to make really important decisions. I think it's you who are having hard a time figuring out you make no sense.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home? Not bashing Golden. Just not crowing him anything. Why? It's simple, he hasn't won anything in which to crown. For the record, I hope he is wildly successful and stays here 20 + years. How nice! You're not bashing Golden but what has he done for you lately and you hope he is wildly successful? Typical! Not even going to respond to that pile of rubbish.

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS. Just like she can't act like she wasn't mustache deep in having her hand out, without her or the University vetting him properly. How come Shannon knew dude was trouble but Donna didn't? She was ok as long as the checks were rolling in. Yeah Donna had her hand out because that's her job. That's why you have a job. Get it? Didn't vet him properly? Why would you vet anybody properly who is a pillar in the community at that time? I keep hearing all this BS that Randy knew Shapiro was bad but if that's the case then why did Assistant Coaches still deal with Shapiro and why did his recruits sit games for breaking recruiting rules for dealing with Shapiro? Randy was preaching from a mountain top but nobody listened? GTFOOH! Yes, as long as the checks keep rolling then everybody was just fine with Nevin Shapiro until he was discovered to be a piece of ****. That's how it works in the real world.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again. I am apolitical. Can't stand politicians or labels. I could care less if she is Dumbocrat or a Repugnantcan. I hate both parties. But nice try anyway. You guys are swinging for the bleachers in attempt to land a knockout blow, but when I have facts, well I'll be standing when the bell rings. Well at least we agree on one thing so far. Can't stand either party. Voted for Ron Paul

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then? I gave Donna much credit for what she has done for the school. She deserves the praise for that without question. But it is her supporters that fail to accept any wrongdoing or shortcomings on her part. As for the billions she raised, that was great. But what about the millions she has squandered? Oh, don't wanna go there do we? The med school is in a financial mess BECAUSE of her handpicked(can't blame Dee or anyone else) cronies all over the med school. Read the Herald for the articles that detail the corruption, cronyism and possible fraud going on there. But let me guess, the Herald hates UM so the article must be just a hack piece. Gotcha. Surely you mean the possible corruption, cronyism, and fraud going on there? What else is new? It's Miami. Must have missed the recent Marlins Stadium fiasco?

We'll agree to disagree...

Yes and it is that simple. I love UM with every fiber of being and want to see it be better and I know it can be better.

Great post. See my comments in Red.

Sounds like you should focus on your job because it sounds like as much as you think you know isn't at all the truth.
 
''a pal Angelo Mozilo at country wide''

He should have went right to prison. Instead his corrupt buddies gave him a 38 million dollar back door deal and the more corrupt gov let them. Nice company she kept if true.




donna also was caught up in a loan scandal as well..not sure what came of it, she was accused of taking very low sub prime loans from a pal Angelo Mozilo at country wide...

She is no angel..but has been good for Miami...as for her owning the NCAA we all know that is not true...3 years of this mess, while other schools get slapped and move on with little to no cooperation....

As for the poster who keeps asking WHO WENT THERE OR GRADUATED...what does that have anything to do with this post...
Some of the worst fans are UM grads...mostly went for business ( cant blame them) and know nothing of sports and do not support any athletic programs at all..just sit in the 140 section its full of Alumni that sell there HI end game tickets, will not be caught dead at a noon game or ever stand for any reason...
 
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For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.

What are you waiting for? If you don't like Donna so much and blame everything on her then man up and get it done so you can move on. Only a **** would stay at some job they hate working for someone they can't stand.

It becomes so much clearer though now. Those supposed facts you were posting weren't facts at all.

I will be leaving on my time, on my schedule. But I appreciate the concern. You must be good peeps to care so much about someone you never met.

by the way, I love my job. Hate the boss. I'm sure millions feel the same way. Should they all leave en masse?

Start a business... Be your own boss Vinn!
 
IMO, Shalala has hurt the Athletic program over the years. While others grew, Miami went in the toilet. Cutting corners every chance she got when it came to the football team.



Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

We'll agree to disagree...


Let's get something straight. Donna Shalala didn't give us a new athletic facility, the Schwartz family did.
 
Are you seriously citing as evidence of kids who have kicked off the team? Really? Do you know how many people in the community lobbied for WW? Plus his GPA and academics were better than most believe it or not.

Eddie Johnson wasn't a straight up known thug. He didn't have a lengthy rap sheet prior to coming here. But he was asked to leave when we see other coaches being allowed by other university presidents to keep kids after numerous incidents.

Some of you Shalala nut huggers should assemble your facts before offering such weak attempts at defending her.

One last foray into this topic. Since Shalala came on board our academic rankings have steadily climbed while our football rankings have steadily dropped like the Lebanese **** blower that she is. Until someone can refute those glaring facts, I proclaim case closed. Verdict to Vinndogg.

I am wrong on many many things. But never about Shalala.

Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

We'll agree to disagree...


Let's get something straight. Donna Shalala didn't give us a new athletic facility, the Schwartz family did.

Yeah Donna had nothing to do with it. I get it... if you hate Donna she had nothing to do with anything positive and everything to do with everything negative. It all makes sense now.
 
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Please name one corner she cut...

IMO, Shalala has hurt the Athletic program over the years. While others grew, Miami went in the toilet. Cutting corners every chance she got when it came to the football team.



Paul Dee was responsible for giving Coker the contract extension that ****ed the football program. How is Donna now responsible for that? Randy was hired after Coker because of that same contract extension. Randy never lands the job if it weren't for having to pay Coker for another 3 years. As soon as Randy had proven he wasn't cut out for the job Donna went out and got Al Golden. She also had the basketball stadium built and brought in Laranaga who just so happened to win the ACC last season. Did you miss that? For someone stomping your feet and pouting like you are you don't know WTF you're talking about.

Ok, I;ll bite. Who did Paul Dee have to answer to? You think he had the UM checkbook in his office with carte blanche to write names and figures in it? Of course not, the Troglodyke had to approve. Same with Shannon, she had to approve and sign off. As for Golden, are we giving her credit for a coach that so far has brought forth only mediocre results? Only time will tell if he has been a good hire. Nobody can say with certainty that he will be good or not. Forgive me for having buyers remorse. She has ponzied us fans much like Shapiro did to his clients, which by the way Shalala introduced Barry Alaverz to Shapiro. Wonder how he feels about that.

As for your other ramblings about the baseball and basketball topics, I don't care. I have focused my points of displeasure with the football program.

Again, when anyone can refute the fact that since she became president that our academic and football rankings have gone in opposite directions, I will then listen to their argument. Until then, the facts support my premise. Hate me, but don't hate facts. She has publicly stated she wants UM to be the Harvard of the south.
I never hear her mention how she wants the football team to be the best.

She probably means well. No doubt she loves the school and wants the best. So does dannyboy but I don't want him leading the hiring and firing and deciding who stays and who goes.

Go Canes!!!!!!!

Give me a break! Now Paul Dee didn't have control of the Athletic program when he extended the contract prematurely when Donna had just gotten to UM? GTFOOH! I get it, you don't like Donna Shalala.

The woman gave us a new basketball arena. She gave the football program a new facility to be proud of which all of the fans have wanted for a long time. She's responsible for hiring Laranaga and Golden. And now you're going to bash Golden to try and prove your agenda driven load of BS home?

Also, Nevin Shapiro was a pillar in the community before he was discovered to be a ponzi schemer. Quit acting like Donna should have known something before the FBI did. You sound like an idiot with your hindsight is 20/20 BS.

You're probably a Conservative "Neocon" who hates her politics so you will highlight everything bad and even downplay anything good that has happened while she has been here. As for academics being up and football being down? Is anybody supposed to be ****ed at her for academics being up? It is a University? Again, Paul Dee gave Coker the contract extension prematurely which started the football programs slide into the pits. It's that contract extension that got Radio Charmin hired. As soon as that contract was up Golden was hired and money began flowing into the football coffers once again.

Does Donna at least get credit for the Billion dollars she raised to help increase the academic standards? How about having the Basketball arena being built and winning our first ACC championship last season? When Golden wins big does she get any of that credit or will your axe be nice and sharpened by then?

We'll agree to disagree...


Let's get something straight. Donna Shalala didn't give us a new athletic facility, the Schwartz family did.
 
For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.

Just to be clear, I wasn't ripping you. I think it's important for folks to know that you're talking from a different perspective. You're there so you know.
 
For full disclosure, I think it's important to mention that Vinn is/was a long time employee of UM who could either have some serious insight (which is absolutely true) or have an axe to grind as a previous employee.

Just wanting to make sure that gets thrown out there...

This. But I choose not to disclose private issues or behind the scenes topics that aren't appropriate for a public forum. But all the naysayers will either ignore that fact, deny it or somehow, in some insane way try to say it ain't true.

I promised that when I leave UM in the next year, I will share my letter of resignation with the board.

Just to be clear, I wasn't ripping you. I think it's important for folks to know that you're talking from a different perspective. You're there so you know.

No problem, I understand. I have never hid that fact. But I know this may be hard for some to believe, I can separate my dislike for her professionally from personally. It's just that some of things I have seen, heard and have been made aware of, but can't share just yet, do play a role in some of my posts. I didn't just wake up one day and decide to dislike her. That's not my nature at all. It takes time for me to form real opinions of people that when I speak as forcefully as I do in regards to her, it's because I know.
 
Has Chuck Neinas been blamed for the Shannon hire yet?

In all seriousness, hiring Shannon made logical sense at the time. He's not eloquent, but he had a solid résumé as a DC, he's an alumnus, and strong ties to South Florida.

Shannon didn't fail because he's not great speaker. He failed because he's a weirdo and he didn't know how to implement his plan (which I'm sure looked all nice and shiny when he interviewed for the job).

If Shannon knew what he was doing and had the same speaking skills, he would've been successful.

He had never been a head coach before at any level. Let me ask you this - if Randy Shannon were such a great hire "at the time," why did they pay him 1/3 of what they paid Larry Coker?


I didn't say he was a great hire. I said it made logical sense.
 
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