What the Alquadin Muhammad commitment...really means.

[mirvin88]

Translation:

Golden is a ******* boss

 

[ABLECANE]

Urs is from NJ ...

you had to remind us of that didn't you?!!

So we're building a pipeline?

LOL

 

[3FW]

Bosco is annually a top 25 team in the nation. Also a kid names Jabril Peppers who plays up near Bosco that is a 5 star talent. NJ produces top talent every year

Don Bosco is the #1 HS program in the country right now. Muhammed and Peppers played together, and he's a top 10 kid overall for next year.

 

[mapcane]

Lu,

Question: does our DL scheme limit our DE's ability to get to the passer? I know that against the run they play their gap, but on passing downs are they restricted in terms of how wide an angle thy can take, etc.?

 

[LuCane]

Lu,

Question: does our DL scheme limit our DE's ability to get to the passer? I know that against the run they play their gap, but on passing downs are they restricted in terms of how wide an angle thy can take, etc.?

Yes to the first question. Kinda of for the second question. We don't have our guys playing 9-tech, for example. Toward the end of the year, though, we saw guys like Terry plugged in and pin their ears back. I suspect (hope) when we have the players, things will change.

 

[Dandycane]

i think it's important to note the don bosco link here. AQM is not just a top recruit from new jersey, he's a top recruit from one of the top prep football schools in the country. if this leads to a little bosco-UM pipeline, this commitment grows in importance. shows some recruiting long-termism from golden.

Good point. All signs are pointing to Golden setting things up for the long haul.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I started in on this topic in another thread.

IMO this is a big pick up, and I largely agree with the OP.

AQM is a great prospect, and winning the OOS battle is nice. But what I'm really juiced about is not the single victory, because over time, we'll win some and lose some. It's the plan and process. AG has an understanding of where to focus (top local kids), and what to do with OOS kids (difference makers, and needs that can't be filled locally). Our past two HCs were so disorganized as far as recruiting went that the bar may seem really low now. AG also has a clear ability to persuade kids, which is important to recruiting, and gives me reason to think we'll see more and more wins as he reestablishes the program.

But before crowning AG, I'd note two things -- first, a lot of what he's doing is 'obvious', in a way. It's just what many of the people on this board have been saying we need to do for the better part of the past decade. There's a lot about Miami that sells itself. He gets a lot of credit for doing the right things and not stepping on his shancoker, but the real measure of his ability and success will be what comes next.

Second, the true defining aspect of AG will be his evaluation abilities. You can be a great recruiter if you evaluate well, even if you don't persuade well. You cannot be a great recruiter even if you persuade well, if you don't evaluate well, IMO. I happen to think AG's going to prove out as at least above average in evaluating, and that that, combined with his plan/process and ability to persuade, will make him a great recruiter. I expect that, but I don't know it yet. The next two seasons will be telling in terms of how kids emerge and continue to develop.

But to summarize, I'm thrilled more by what I'm not seeing in recruiting than what I am, and I don't say that disparagingly at all. It's a pleasure not to have to tear my hair out watching obvious cluelessness by our staffs year after year on the recruiting trail.

 

[Larry]

I will just say this...in its own bubble, the addition of AlQaeda Muhammad is a good one. Putting pressure on the QB and getting into the backfield is paramount in college football...however, schematically, I still feel as though players like AQM, and to a greater point Tyriq McCord and perhaps Tim Williams...they are generally smallish players...listed at 6'3" (which usually means 6'2"), in the 230 range...in Miami's scheme, these players by themselves have a limited effectiveness, at least right now. There needs to be pieces surrounding these outstanding pass rushers to make what they do work. In this instance, those bigger stack ends, or more effective defensive tackles would make these players that much more valuable. These pass rushers, in a perfect world, are the hybrid players. They are the players you use when you overload a side of the line and they are able to come off the edge clean or against a tight end or would match up with a fullback/runningback in the backfield when they come off the line in the 9 technique. At least that is how I see these guys, anyway, so, on its face, I love the signing. But, I think we need to see more from Golden and Co in targeting these players.

IMO, I think Jaynard Bostwick would be that kind of player...DT who can also bounce out and play a stack end...I think Jelani Hamilton could, too. But I think we are still a year or two away from seeing these kind of players make the proper jump in technique and ability. We'll see, anyway. Just my two pennies.

 

[The Franchise]

Let me repeat that: Miami pulled a star HS player being recruited by the top teams in the country while still being in a mediocre state (based on results) and not having the NCAA investigation outcome fully settled.

This data point makes almost anyone wonder what Al Golden and staff will be capable of doing when those variables are worked out.

I've been banging this drum for a LONG time, and it is the single most important factor that should have UM fans offering to tongue bidet Alshermond instead of questioning everything he does and whining about every little detail of a program that was a giant steaming pile of guano when he took it over.

Fans are often stuck in a time warp and think UM was the UM of the early 2000's and loaded with "talent". This program was complete garbage in every facet when Alshermond took it over. If you talked to him off the record, I'm sure he'd tell you it was way worse off than the Temple team that he left behind.

 

[DMoney]

I will just say this...in its own bubble, the addition of AlQaeda Muhammad is a good one. Putting pressure on the QB and getting into the backfield is paramount in college football...however, schematically, I still feel as though players like AQM, and to a greater point Tyriq McCord and perhaps Tim Williams...they are generally smallish players...listed at 6'3" (which usually means 6'2"), in the 230 range...in Miami's scheme, these players by themselves have a limited effectiveness, at least right now. There needs to be pieces surrounding these outstanding pass rushers to make what they do work. In this instance, those bigger stack ends, or more effective defensive tackles would make these players that much more valuable. These pass rushers, in a perfect world, are the hybrid players. They are the players you use when you overload a side of the line and they are able to come off the edge clean or against a tight end or would match up with a fullback/runningback in the backfield when they come off the line in the 9 technique. At least that is how I see these guys, anyway, so, on its face, I love the signing. But, I think we need to see more from Golden and Co in targeting these players.

IMO, I think Jaynard Bostwick would be that kind of player...DT who can also bounce out and play a stack end...I think Jelani Hamilton could, too. But I think we are still a year or two away from seeing these kind of players make the proper jump in technique and ability. We'll see, anyway. Just my two pennies.

Yep, those 6'4 285-pound defensive linemen are what's missing from the roster.

Teams like Kansas State attacked Miami's defensive ends relentlessly because they lacked length and overall size.

 

[The Franchise]

Don't you guys think you're putting a bit too much into this commitment?

you should obviously be excited, the dude is a great player, but there were other circumstances at play here. As Larry pointed out there were issues with ND, bama was never really after this guy as they have Demarcus Walker and a few others. Last I heard, he's still planning on visiting ND, doesn't sound like this is really over. Seems the guy took a vacation trip to miami, fell in love with it, and made a commitment. Your class last year and a few of those guys meant more than this commitment IMO, especially Howard and Bush.

Why is a ufag fan on our recruiting board trying to p1ss in our Cheerios during an incredible moment for our program? What the fugg is this nonsense?

 

[RepTheGables]

Don't you guys think you're putting a bit too much into this commitment?

you should obviously be excited, the dude is a great player, but there were other circumstances at play here. As Larry pointed out there were issues with ND, bama was never really after this guy as they have Demarcus Walker and a few others. Last I heard, he's still planning on visiting ND, doesn't sound like this is really over. Seems the guy took a vacation trip to miami, fell in love with it, and made a commitment. Your class last year and a few of those guys meant more than this commitment IMO, especially Howard and Bush.

Why is a ufag fan on our recruiting board trying to p1ss in our Cheerios during an incredible moment for our program? What the fugg is this nonsense?

Breaking his parole.

 

[The Franchise]

Lu,

Question: does our DL scheme limit our DE's ability to get to the passer? I know that against the run they play their gap, but on passing downs are they restricted in terms of how wide an angle thy can take, etc.?

Our personnel stopped our DL from getting to the passer.

 

[Larry]

I will just say this...in its own bubble, the addition of AlQaeda Muhammad is a good one. Putting pressure on the QB and getting into the backfield is paramount in college football...however, schematically, I still feel as though players like AQM, and to a greater point Tyriq McCord and perhaps Tim Williams...they are generally smallish players...listed at 6'3" (which usually means 6'2"), in the 230 range...in Miami's scheme, these players by themselves have a limited effectiveness, at least right now. There needs to be pieces surrounding these outstanding pass rushers to make what they do work. In this instance, those bigger stack ends, or more effective defensive tackles would make these players that much more valuable. These pass rushers, in a perfect world, are the hybrid players. They are the players you use when you overload a side of the line and they are able to come off the edge clean or against a tight end or would match up with a fullback/runningback in the backfield when they come off the line in the 9 technique. At least that is how I see these guys, anyway, so, on its face, I love the signing. But, I think we need to see more from Golden and Co in targeting these players.

IMO, I think Jaynard Bostwick would be that kind of player...DT who can also bounce out and play a stack end...I think Jelani Hamilton could, too. But I think we are still a year or two away from seeing these kind of players make the proper jump in technique and ability. We'll see, anyway. Just my two pennies.

Yep, those 6'4 285-pound defensive linemen are what's missing from the roster.

Teams like Kansas State attacked Miami's defensive ends relentlessly because they lacked length and overall size.

I think it is a big reason why Miami can't generate a pass rush. We also got beat the **** up in the run game in that regard as well. The DT issue is real, but the need for that stack and shed end is so very important. At Temple, he had Muhammad Wilkerson and even would play Terrance Knighton outside (two NFL players for those that don't know) and it basically is why Temple's defense was as good as it was for a MAC team. Made D'Onofrio's defense. Those players would contain the tackle and even occupy a TE and would allow Temple's hybrids to run free and generate pressure. Miami straight up doesn't have that...they have no one on the roster for that right now. We can say Hamilton, maybe. I still think he's more developmental than most give him credit for being...he's gotta recomp his body a bit and work on technique...Bostwick could be that player. I think they had intentions on Briscoe to be that type of player, but as we've discussed, doesn't have that mentality.

If Porter emerges that's nice, but still doesn't free up the outside that much.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Briscoe doesn't have that mentality after one season? That's a little early to count the kid out, he hasn't even gone through spring football.

Personally, I'm so used to us sucking that I won't know what to think when we come out dominant again. I know in my heart that the day is coming under Golden, he has all the signs of being successful here, but I will still fall out of my chair when we beat some *** next year and set the table for 2014.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I will just say this...in its own bubble, the addition of AlQaeda Muhammad is a good one. Putting pressure on the QB and getting into the backfield is paramount in college football...however, schematically, I still feel as though players like AQM, and to a greater point Tyriq McCord and perhaps Tim Williams...they are generally smallish players...listed at 6'3" (which usually means 6'2"), in the 230 range...in Miami's scheme, these players by themselves have a limited effectiveness, at least right now. There needs to be pieces surrounding these outstanding pass rushers to make what they do work. In this instance, those bigger stack ends, or more effective defensive tackles would make these players that much more valuable. These pass rushers, in a perfect world, are the hybrid players. They are the players you use when you overload a side of the line and they are able to come off the edge clean or against a tight end or would match up with a fullback/runningback in the backfield when they come off the line in the 9 technique. At least that is how I see these guys, anyway, so, on its face, I love the signing. But, I think we need to see more from Golden and Co in targeting these players.

IMO, I think Jaynard Bostwick would be that kind of player...DT who can also bounce out and play a stack end...I think Jelani Hamilton could, too. But I think we are still a year or two away from seeing these kind of players make the proper jump in technique and ability. We'll see, anyway. Just my two pennies.

Yep, those 6'4 285-pound defensive linemen are what's missing from the roster.

Teams like Kansas State attacked Miami's defensive ends relentlessly because they lacked length and overall size.

I think it is a big reason why Miami can't generate a pass rush. We also got beat the **** up in the run game in that regard as well. The DT issue is real, but the need for that stack and shed end is so very important. At Temple, he had Muhammad Wilkerson and even would play Terrance Knighton outside (two NFL players for those that don't know) and it basically is why Temple's defense was as good as it was for a MAC team. Made D'Onofrio's defense. Those players would contain the tackle and even occupy a TE and would allow Temple's hybrids to run free and generate pressure. Miami straight up doesn't have that...they have no one on the roster for that right now. We can say Hamilton, maybe. I still think he's more developmental than most give him credit for being...he's gotta recomp his body a bit and work on technique...Bostwick could be that player. I think they had intentions on Briscoe to be that type of player, but as we've discussed, doesn't have that mentality.

If Porter emerges that's nice, but still doesn't free up the outside that much.

It's amazing how awful our DL talent has been for a long time, IMO. We got to the point where Josh Holmes was supposed to be an undersized something or other. Our space fillers weren't that big, and certainly weren't that quick or explosive, and they didn't fill space that well. Joseph, Regis, Lewis (before his switch), plus some of AG's roster fillers. Porter's interesting in part because he makes a real impact, and he's not that good, IMO. But he's okay. And compared to less than okay, okay looks good. It allows the rest of our D to do more, and we see results from that.

Give me some of the Bostwick types, and pray we find that really big NG type -- I'd take a poor man's Wilfork and feel rich all day, every day. Line those cats up between the ends we're getting and all the sudden, the DL is there to actually disrupt and do something, not just to absorb abuse and hope to avoid getting humiliated.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

Ivery is a bonafide nose tackle, he was just a freshman last year. Moore too, but he has T-Rex arms.

Keith Bryant will be a nose tackle too, but more versatile. We'll be fine in the middle, reasonably fine. Not so much on the edge, unless Chick, Hamilton, O'Donnell, Bostwick, and sometimes Pierre get the job done.

 

[LuCane]

I will just say this...in its own bubble, the addition of AlQaeda Muhammad is a good one. Putting pressure on the QB and getting into the backfield is paramount in college football...however, schematically, I still feel as though players like AQM, and to a greater point Tyriq McCord and perhaps Tim Williams...they are generally smallish players...listed at 6'3" (which usually means 6'2"), in the 230 range...in Miami's scheme, these players by themselves have a limited effectiveness, at least right now. There needs to be pieces surrounding these outstanding pass rushers to make what they do work. In this instance, those bigger stack ends, or more effective defensive tackles would make these players that much more valuable. These pass rushers, in a perfect world, are the hybrid players. They are the players you use when you overload a side of the line and they are able to come off the edge clean or against a tight end or would match up with a fullback/runningback in the backfield when they come off the line in the 9 technique. At least that is how I see these guys, anyway, so, on its face, I love the signing. But, I think we need to see more from Golden and Co in targeting these players.

IMO, I think Jaynard Bostwick would be that kind of player...DT who can also bounce out and play a stack end...I think Jelani Hamilton could, too. But I think we are still a year or two away from seeing these kind of players make the proper jump in technique and ability. We'll see, anyway. Just my two pennies.

Yep. Basically, that's the short answer I gave to MAP re: the 9-tech. We're just not putting certain guys in those positions. I have no idea if that's a short term or long term move by D'Onofrio. It's tough to judge what he does because he seems to want to play a scheme of strength and had a group of very young, mostly weak players. So, was he doing everything he wants to do? Let's see if they adjust.

 

[bobbydigius]

Some great posts in this thread. You just gotta take this commit for what it is on face value. We finally got an elite talent at DE that can rush the passer, not only that but the kid's stock has only risen this past week during the AAA game against some of the nation's best. This is McCord 2.0 IMHO. McCord was huge because it was a position of need and he came out of nowhere. This kid is just like him except all the variables are even better. He seems to be slightly bigger, stronger and more explosive than McCord who was/is an excellent prospect in his own right. Just like McCord he came out of nowhere, and was such a needed surprise at a position of need that up this point had been a head scratcher. I got hated on when I questioned Bond's weight. I had nothing against Bond, it was more of the concern that we had nobody lined up to fill the natural position of a DE. AQM's frame will allow him to be an every down terror for us. Not next year, but soon after that. His frame along with his exceptional strength will allow him to be more than just a pass rusher, he will just fine against the run. I saw a monster during the all star game. On top of all that he is an OOS kid, and for once we are building depth in the front four. McCord , Hollit and AQM, you sign up TW and you gotta ask yourself, when was the last time we had such talented dept at that position? Only thing better than this commit is 6 or an elite DT.

 

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