We're drowning in a river of tears and vaginal blood clots..

Gotta agree with Franchise on this one just low character bs that seems to go on yearly. To the guy even questioning this moron's decommitment from that Gainesville university. Yea maybe it could have been a red flag but it was done over a year before he would sign, then gave every indication in public and print for the following year that he'd be a hurricane all the way up to a late January visit to rocky top hahaha wow. And cmon with even questioning Latrell Williams decommitting from USF to Miami Jesus I know we fell far since '01 but there should never be any chance that a kid stays committed to them over us. That's not a low character move in any aspect considering his recruitment took awhile to get off the ground and his main recruiter came over to the canes anyway. I mean I thought this would be common knowledge as a reason why you wouldn't question the character of these kids prior but I guess playing devil's advocate works better for your persona.
 

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Good post. The U can do nothing about low character players who have been clearly brought up by their parents to be ignorant of socially acceptable behaviour. This "family" of butt brothers, who engaged in a premeditated scheme to deceive the coaches of their true intentions, are highly unlikely to succeed on the field and in life.
 
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The first paragraph I can get on board with. The rest....don't have an aneurysm or rather please do.

Nobody was *****ing or questioning the character of Byrd when he dropped UF (his original commit) and switched to us. Nobody was questioning Williams character when he dropped USF for us.

Nobody was questioning the character of players we've had through the years make a switch on signing day th at favored us. We all celebrated the pick up and there weren't mangina posts like this one.

Byrd and Williams both went on a trip late to UT and made their decisions at some point between then and today. He let our staff know who knows when, it could've been a week ago as they can't comment on recruits. Mangina's though assume they left the staff hanging out at the fax machine waiting for their signatures and I'd bet that wasn't the case. Mangina on though.

If you're having doubts then de-commit and go on visits - let the school you committed to know and be able to plan around it. This *****boy went to the night before NSD and then says he's flipping. If you don't think that's low character, and can't tell the difference between flipping early in the process and the night before NSD, then you're an idiot.

How do you know he didn't inform the interested parties before he announced his decision?

Also, if you have a problem with verbally committed players visiting without decommiting, you must not think much of the majority of college football players.

Because coaches said so, that's why they were ****ed. He played them.

Even people in his HS Ath Dept expected him to stick. As late as 12 pm yesterday.
 
Good post. Agree completely. Kid is likely low character or at least displayed it In this situation. Is he going to turn out to be a low life flop? Nobody knows. But we've seen these guys before and they more often than not end up being average players. I gave golden 4 years I'm certainly going to give an established guy like richt one full recruiting cycle before i question him.
 
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Chise, do you think its fair that we can if Richt had kept Larry Scott as tight end coach. Byrd would still be here? Maybe even Latrell since im sure scott played a role in both kids switching. We will see about Hartley but I thought Scott got good kids here and since you asked what else could have been done. Well if we didn't let Scott go Byrd probably stays. We didn't hear anything about this Byrd wanting to play with his brother till Scott got to Tennessee.

I'm not Francis, but why would a coach who isn't his position coach be a larger factor in his decision making process than the fellow who is his brother in all but name? Think about that for just one minute.

Until they both went up there.together, they probably talked up.each other's schools. I imagine Byrd through association with Fils knew the staff at UT better than our staff. He went on two trips, obviously liked what he saw, and the rest is history.

If you don't think the idea of the two playing together for four or five years was a topic between them (whether it was ever publicly stage for not), again you're not thinking.

The real question would be what would've happened had we offered Fils or gone after him hard?

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/final-tyler-byrd-update/97127
I'm waiting on Geo to reply to your post. Obviously you haven't read or you just ignored what he reported.
 
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My only problem with this class is that we brought in really good talent, but not enough of it. To be fair, I'd rather take some killers and leave it at that than also taking a bunch of guys that should never set foot on the field for us. Losing Byrd also sucks, but it's been said before that kids that show that level of immaturity almost never pan out despite their amount of talent.
 
The first paragraph I can get on board with. The rest....don't have an aneurysm or rather please do.

Nobody was *****ing or questioning the character of Byrd when he dropped UF (his original commit) and switched to us. Nobody was questioning Williams character when he dropped USF for us.

Nobody was questioning the character of players we've had through the years make a switch on signing day th at favored us. We all celebrated the pick up and there weren't mangina posts like this one.

Byrd and Williams both went on a trip late to UT and made their decisions at some point between then and today. He let our staff know who knows when, it could've been a week ago as they can't comment on recruits. Mangina's though assume they left the staff hanging out at the fax machine waiting for their signatures and I'd bet that wasn't the case. Mangina on though.

If you're having doubts then de-commit and go on visits - let the school you committed to know and be able to plan around it. This *****boy went to the night before NSD and then says he's flipping. If you don't think that's low character, and can't tell the difference between flipping early in the process and the night before NSD, then you're an idiot.

How do you know he didn't inform the interested parties before he announced his decision?

Also, if you have a problem with verbally committed players visiting without decommiting, you must not think much of the majority of college football players.

Because coaches said so, that's why they were ****ed. He played them.

Even people in his HS Ath Dept expected him to stick. As late as 12 pm yesterday.

**** dude, you know everyone. Our coaches, his coaches, etc.

Shaq's dad isn't on either staff and well before 12pm yesterday he insinuated Byrd may not be coming and was all but doing the same saying Richard's was. Why did he know, but our staff and the high school staff didn't.

Sounds like you're just making **** up.
 
Chise, do you think its fair that we can if Richt had kept Larry Scott as tight end coach. Byrd would still be here? Maybe even Latrell since im sure scott played a role in both kids switching. We will see about Hartley but I thought Scott got good kids here and since you asked what else could have been done. Well if we didn't let Scott go Byrd probably stays. We didn't hear anything about this Byrd wanting to play with his brother till Scott got to Tennessee.

I'm not Francis, but why would a coach who isn't his position coach be a larger factor in his decision making process than the fellow who is his brother in all but name? Think about that for just one minute.

Until they both went up there.together, they probably talked up.each other's schools. I imagine Byrd through association with Fils knew the staff at UT better than our staff. He went on two trips, obviously liked what he saw, and the rest is history.

If you don't think the idea of the two playing together for four or five years was a topic between them (whether it was ever publicly stage for not), again you're not thinking.

The real question would be what would've happened had we offered Fils or gone after him hard?

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/final-tyler-byrd-update/97127
I'm waiting on Geo to reply to your post. Obviously you haven't read or you just ignored what he reported.

So today Geo is right, but every other day for the last month people have clowned him non-stop?

Mighty suspicious since this got a lot of people back on his bus since it fits the agenda people.
 
Chise, do you think its fair that we can if Richt had kept Larry Scott as tight end coach. Byrd would still be here? Maybe even Latrell since im sure scott played a role in both kids switching. We will see about Hartley but I thought Scott got good kids here and since you asked what else could have been done. Well if we didn't let Scott go Byrd probably stays. We didn't hear anything about this Byrd wanting to play with his brother till Scott got to Tennessee.

Pretty sure Richt offered that dumb fck Larry Snott a job on staff. I don't think it would have mattered with Tyrd because his butt buddy was still going to UT regardless of where Snott was. No way those 2 Brokeback fckboys were being split up. They're longing for each other's buttholes is too strong. This was a work between those 2 corny fackquits.
 
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The first paragraph I can get on board with. The rest....don't have an aneurysm or rather please do.

Nobody was *****ing or questioning the character of Byrd when he dropped UF (his original commit) and switched to us. Nobody was questioning Williams character when he dropped USF for us.

Nobody was questioning the character of players we've had through the years make a switch on signing day th at favored us. We all celebrated the pick up and there weren't mangina posts like this one.

Byrd and Williams both went on a trip late to UT and made their decisions at some point between then and today. He let our staff know who knows when, it could've been a week ago as they can't comment on recruits. Mangina's though assume they left the staff hanging out at the fax machine waiting for their signatures and I'd bet that wasn't the case. Mangina on though.

If you're having doubts then de-commit and go on visits - let the school you committed to know and be able to plan around it. This *****boy went to the night before NSD and then says he's flipping. If you don't think that's low character, and can't tell the difference between flipping early in the process and the night before NSD, then you're an idiot.

How do you know he didn't inform the interested parties before he announced his decision?

Also, if you have a problem with verbally committed players visiting without decommiting, you must not think much of the majority of college football players.

Because coaches said so, that's why they were ****ed. He played them.

Even people in his HS Ath Dept expected him to stick. As late as 12 pm yesterday.

**** dude, you know everyone. Our coaches, his coaches, etc.

Shaq's dad isn't on either staff and well before 12pm yesterday he insinuated Byrd may not be coming and was all but doing the same saying Richard's was. Why did he know, but our staff and the high school staff didn't.

Sounds like you're just making **** up.

Shaqs dad was reading tea leaves. He said Byrd stopped communicating with shaq if I recall. He had a gut feeling if you will. Turned out to be a good one.
 
Well said.

Rather than focus on the excellent players we will be cheering for many of us would rather whine about who we 'lost'.
 
If Finley signs/committed today instead of yesterday are people happier? I think a lot of people are caught up with the actual game on the day of. The hoopla and announcements on tv on actual signing day.
 
Chise, do you think its fair that we can if Richt had kept Larry Scott as tight end coach. Byrd would still be here? Maybe even Latrell since im sure scott played a role in both kids switching. We will see about Hartley but I thought Scott got good kids here and since you asked what else could have been done. Well if we didn't let Scott go Byrd probably stays. We didn't hear anything about this Byrd wanting to play with his brother till Scott got to Tennessee.

I'm not Francis, but why would a coach who isn't his position coach be a larger factor in his decision making process than the fellow who is his brother in all but name? Think about that for just one minute.

Until they both went up there.together, they probably talked up.each other's schools. I imagine Byrd through association with Fils knew the staff at UT better than our staff. He went on two trips, obviously liked what he saw, and the rest is history.

If you don't think the idea of the two playing together for four or five years was a topic between them (whether it was ever publicly stage for not), again you're not thinking.

The real question would be what would've happened had we offered Fils or gone after him hard?

https://www.canesinsight.com/thread/final-tyler-byrd-update/97127
I'm waiting on Geo to reply to your post. Obviously you haven't read or you just ignored what he reported.

So today Geo is right, but every other day for the last month people have clowned him non-stop?

Mighty suspicious since this got a lot of people back on his bus since it fits the agenda people.

Are you just trying to be contrarian? Or your'e just......whatever!
How come he is the only recruit that got in a Twitter feud with couple of our players? Is that just a coincidence? Can't you see there is more to it? It's not about him changing his mind, he is entitled to it, but the way he did it, compelling an unprecedented tweet from Hartley I believe.........is very telling.
 
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Still looking for reasons why the pu$$ies are awash in period clots today. 10 or 11 out of 18 signees in the ESPN 300. We got a bunch of real dudes in this class--Quarterman, McCloud, Jackson, Bruce, Richards, Finley, Homer, Mullens, Big Jack, Young, etc.) This class is small, but it looks like it's chock full of football players. There are some violent dudes in this class, and some very highly coveted dudes. We beat a lot of the big boys (Bama, FSU, Clemson, and OSU) for several of our guys.

Looks like what wound up sending the weak-kneed wobblers into a tailspin was that we "missed" out on a low character **** who was obviously playing us like Scarlett did last year. I don't know how you remedy getting fcked like that, and, frankly, I'm not so sure how often super low-character guys like that succeed in such a ferociously competitive game.

It's no coincidence that most of the guys devoid of character, who have used this process as a way to get themselves over as trolls, wind up languishing in obscurity. I'll point out to those guys that it's tough to succeed in such a violently competitive arena when you're a raging **** like Tyrd.

Maybe he'll be the rare facquuit **** who succeeds, but then ask yourself what else we could have done to keep him (assuming we ever really had him). They made him the number 1 priority as soon as the dead period ended. They visited him relentlessly. What else could they have done to keep him from being a low-character fackit ****? Sometimes, when that fackitry is in you so deeply like it is with him there's nothing anyone can do to fix it.

Yeah, I know this looks like I'm making ex-post facto excuses to the guys who are ****-bent on whining and bleeding vaginally. But I didn't know Tyrd was a low-character fackeit **** until he showed us he was one last night. It's tough to call him out as a low-character facquit before he gives you a reason to do that, and he didn't give a reason until last night.

In retrospect, if that whole scenario with Tyrd and his facquit butt buddy, **** Filled-****, doesn't look to you like 2 drama queens, who had this tawdry escape to Brokeback Mountain planned out, then you haven't been around the block enough times.

yes but lets see according to whiners bethel, mccord,quatermane, bruce, richards, etc don't count they wer golden guys so richt only gets credit for finley, martin,johnson, and lost byrd who would of started and won all acc at cb and god probably made all american 1st team and been lauded as best cb of all time.

lol lets be honest it was a nice class with most of kids being 4 stars and richt did good job keeping most kids who were commited gettin bethel, haskins, martin, johnson, finley , young to miami and gettting richards to come back to miami as well as mcloud. but its not butch so they are gonna ***** and moan cause u know butch would of landed the number 1 class if hired him lol what idiots to think that.

The crybabies are assuming all those guys would have stuck if Folden remained HC. Fact is that most of them would have de-committed at some point like they did the last couple years on him. Then, he would have been scrambling stealing commits on signing day from FIU and FAU like he always did.
 
We still finished with more ESPN 300 kids than TN...who signed a much bigger class.

Canes - 18 commits - 10 ESPN 300 kids
Inbreds - 21 commits - 8 ESPN 300 kids

Lick my ******* Vols.

We still had a sick class.
 
I don't think you'll find one poster on this board who would say that Golden would've had a better class than this.

I'll start a thread looking for one.
 
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We good Bro. Got a crop that can play with anybody. Got a staff that we saw will get after it recruiting. Got better coaches. Got a real DC and DL coach. Expecting more wins next year. Will have an entire season to recruit with 11 already committed. Bumper crop of SoFl DB's, LB's and OL available for next year 2017. We will be back sooner than later. Believe that! Can't wait till Spring Game! Go Canes!
 
In fact, we finished 19th but had more ESPN 300 kids than everyone from 12 on up that was ahead of us...

#12 UF - 24 commits - 7 ESPN 300 kids
#13 Stanford - 26 commits - 6 ESPN 300
#14 ND - 23 commits - 6 ESPN 300
#15 TN - 21 commits - 8 ESPN 300
#16 Baylor - 22 commits - 8 ESPN 300
#17 Penn St - 20 commits - 8 ESPN 300
#18 UCLA - 27 commits - 9 ESPN 300

We had the same amount as #9 Auburn who had 10 ESPN 300 guys on 19 commits.
 
Agree... May not have got what we wanted... but we have what we need to win some games. After Byrd's tasteless production I was upset... then watching Shaq's interview just now... I'm feeling a lot better.. I may have done a few things right raising that Dude... I think the staff did a good job with the limitations ... I expect better results next year... but more importantly I think we have everything we need to move forward in the right directions.
 
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