We have somehow gotten worse each Week

UF was ranked. Does that count? Honestly, the season is only 8 games over and you're in the running for biggest porster. Give it time.

UF's offense is a joke and they are a bad football team. Are you seriously holding your hat on that game? WF moved the ball at will against us, the team that lost to clemson 52-7..

I am holding nothing but you are claiming that beating UF means nothing. That is awesome, we were the underdog against a ranked team and we won. But the game is a joke to the DAU4life.

Are you aware that UF has been hit hard by injuries this season? Not sure if you are aware or just porsting.

WF lost the fu.cking game and had 361 total yards. Big deal 361 total yards. They did not move the ball at will, they couldn't fuc.king run the **** ball.

You do realize we almost lost to a team that is horrible, they were just shutout by Syracuse. How can you keep defending this defense is beyond me?

And GT beat Syracuse 56-0. What is your point? Does this mean something?

It was a close game and we won, big deal. Why are you dwelling on this game?

Against WF: We scored more points, won the turnover battle, had more yards but it was a close game.

It's to show how our defense hasn't improved in a year, we got manhandled by KSU and ND last year. Fast forward we play FSU and the same outcome, it's one thing if we are losing these games by 10-14 points. We are getting absolutely destroyed.
 
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Again you guys are blaming talent when Stanford doesn't get the great talent but play sound defensive football.

it took jim harbaugh til his 4th season, and david shaw has been keeping it going.. once you put a system in place, and recruit for that system, it's much easier.. look at VT.. VT is succesful because they have had that system in place for YEARS, and they recruit to that.. they know the type of guys they need to be successful.

This is Coach D's third season, how long are you going to give him?
I'll give golden 4 complete recruiting classes.
 
..sure guess we will see what type of team this is come VT. We lose we are still stuck in the mud we win everything changes. That's the great thing about NCAA football, there are so little games that one game can mean everything.
 
Again you guys are blaming talent when Stanford doesn't get the great talent but play sound defensive football.

it took jim harbaugh til his 4th season, and david shaw has been keeping it going.. once you put a system in place, and recruit for that system, it's much easier.. look at VT.. VT is succesful because they have had that system in place for YEARS, and they recruit to that.. they know the type of guys they need to be successful.

This is Coach D's third season, how long are you going to give him?
I'll give golden 4 complete recruiting classes.

Did you think we would lose 41-14?
 
Again you guys are blaming talent when Stanford doesn't get the great talent but play sound defensive football.

it took jim harbaugh til his 4th season, and david shaw has been keeping it going.. once you put a system in place, and recruit for that system, it's much easier.. look at VT.. VT is succesful because they have had that system in place for YEARS, and they recruit to that.. they know the type of guys they need to be successful.

This is Coach D's third season, how long are you going to give him?
I'll give golden 4 complete recruiting classes.

Did you think we would lose 41-14?

no, but **** happens.
 
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It's to show how our defense hasn't improved in a year, we got manhandled by KSU and ND last year. Fast forward we play FSU and the same outcome, it's one thing if we are losing these games by 10-14 points. We are getting absolutely destroyed.

You are just dumb. Let me understand this, your issue is with this team is the defense. The defense who has kept us in the games against UNC and WF is the issue.

The defense that is ranked 25th nationally. This is your issue. I hate to break it you big man, our defense is vastly improved from last year.

2013 (through 8 games):

Scoring D: 20.6
Total D: 364.1 YPG
Rushing D: 148 YPG
Passing D: 216.1
Turnovers: 21
Sacks: 23

2012 (Full Season)

Scoring D: 30.5 PPG
Total D: 486.4 YPG
Rushing D: 217.9 YPG
Passing D: 268.5 YPG
Turnovers: 22
Sacks: 13

To review:

We're giving up 10 less points per game.
We're giving up 122 less total yards per game.
We're giving up 70 less rushing yards per game.
We're giving up 53 less passing yards per game.
We almost have the same amount of turnovers as last year and we have 4 games left to play.
We have 10 more sacks than last year and we have 4 games left to play.

You are right, there is no improvement!

This defense is vastly superior to last year, I am sorry that you don't see the improvement.
 
It's to show how our defense hasn't improved in a year, we got manhandled by KSU and ND last year. Fast forward we play FSU and the same outcome, it's one thing if we are losing these games by 10-14 points. We are getting absolutely destroyed.

You are just dumb. Let me understand this, your issue is with this team is the defense. The defense who has kept us in the games against UNC and WF is the issue.

The defense that is ranked 25th nationally. This is your issue. I hate to break it you big man, our defense is vastly improved from last year.

2013 (through 8 games):

Scoring D: 20.6
Total D: 364.1 YPG
Rushing D: 148 YPG
Passing D: 216.1
Turnovers: 21
Sacks: 23

2012 (Full Season)

Scoring D: 30.5 PPG
Total D: 486.4 YPG
Rushing D: 217.9 YPG
Passing D: 268.5 YPG
Turnovers: 22
Sacks: 13

To review:

We're giving up 10 less points per game.
We're giving up 122 less total yards per game.
We're giving up 70 less rushing yards per game.
We're giving up 53 less passing yards per game.
We almost have the same amount of turnovers as last year and we have 4 games left to play.
We have 10 more sacks than last year and we have 4 games left to play.

You are right, there is no improvement!

Look at the teams we've played; FAU, Savannah State, USF, WF, GT and UF. Those are juggernaut offenses, if we played a tough schedule, we would have one of the worst defenses in football.
 
Look at the teams we've played; FAU, Savannah State, USF, WF, GT and UF. Those are juggernaut offenses, if we played a tough schedule, we would have one of the worst defenses in football.

You are the king of the porsters.

So your saying strength of schedule is the only reason this defense is not having the same result as last year.
 
1) I will give OP 1 last post to redeem himself before I got back and neg all his post in this thread.

2) DAU4LIFE. Provide me with answers for the following question:
A) Name at least 1 player on from each of the following teams. Stanford/MSU 5 years ago. LSU 13 years ago, VA Tech 20 years ago, ....You are coming in here comparing finished products to an organization that is just being built.

B) Of the schools you mentioned as having great defenses please tell me which team(s) the following players would make the 2 deep on currently, Tyrone Cornlious, AJ Highsmith, James Gaines, Shayon Green. (This is not a knock on those guys they are all heart and bleed orange and green but the just aren't Hurricane material BASED on our previous standard.)

You keep saying that Jimmy and Joes don't matter? Why did Saban lose to UL Monroe his first year a Bama? You think he forgot how to coach for a week?

Did Notre Dame Coaches forget how to coach the weeks leading up the Bama national championship?

There is such a thin line when it's comes to whats on the coaches and what's on the players guys need to wake up.
You keep going back to that blitz when they ran a screen and golden said it himself "a backer was spose to pickup the running back", he freelanced, RB walked in for a TD. So when you know your players can not execute blitz properly why continue to send them. Our Coordinators are currently limited in their play calling because we have guys who simply cannot execute certain plays.

Great players make coaches look like Genius think about Larry Coker and Butch Davis, you think those guys are great coaches? **** NO Butch gets the best talent and molds it into elite talent and then sets them loose on the field.
 
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1) I will give OP 1 last post to redeem himself before I got back and neg all his post in this thread.

2) DAU4LIFE. Provide me with answers for the following question:
A) Name at least 1 player on from each of the following teams. Stanford/MSU 5 years ago. LSU 13 years ago, VA Tech 20 years ago, ....You are coming in here comparing finished products to an organization that is just being built.

B) Of the schools you mentioned as having great defenses please tell me which team(s) the following players would make the 2 deep on currently, Tyrone Cornlious, AJ Highsmith, James Gaines, Shayon Green. (This is not a knock on those guys they are all heart and bleed orange and green but the just aren't Hurricane material BASED on our previous standard.)

You keep saying that Jimmy and Joes don't matter? Why did Saban lose to UL Monroe his first year a Bama? You think he forgot how to coach for a week?

Did Notre Dame Coaches forget how to coach the weeks leading up the Bama national championship?

There is such a thin line when it's comes to whats on the coaches and what's on the players guys need to wake up.
You keep going back to that blitz when they ran a screen and golden said it himself "a backer was spose to pickup the running back", he freelanced, RB walked in for a TD. So when you know your players can not execute blitz properly why continue to send them. Our Coordinators are currently limited in their play calling because we have guys who simply cannot execute certain plays.

Great players make coaches look like Genius think about Larry Coker and Butch Davis, you think those guys are great coaches? **** NO Butch gets the best talent and molds it into elite talent and then sets them loose on the field.

I'm not asking our defense to be the 85 bears; In the past two years we have gotten blown out by every ranked team.
 
IF we were losing these games by 10-14 points, I would have no problem with the results. We are losing 41-14, 52-13, 41-3..
 
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IF we were losing these games by 10-14 points, I would have no problem with the results. We are losing 41-14, 52-13, 41-3..

Still No points sir. Try again.

So our team is getting blown out but your issue is squarely with the defense. We scored 36 total points last year against FSU, KSU and ND. This is all on the defense? Me thinks you have an agenda.
 
Again you guys are blaming talent when Stanford doesn't get the great talent but play sound defensive football.

it took jim harbaugh til his 4th season, and david shaw has been keeping it going.. once you put a system in place, and recruit for that system, it's much easier.. look at VT.. VT is succesful because they have had that system in place for YEARS, and they recruit to that.. they know the type of guys they need to be successful.

This is Coach D's third season, how long are you going to give him?
I'll give golden 4 complete recruiting classes.

Did you think we would lose 41-14?

no, but **** happens.
 
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It'd be different if we were -6.5 like Clemson at home and gave up 50. But we were minus -21 which means that point blank we don't have the talent.
 
I'm not asking our defense to be the 85 bears; In the past two years we have gotten blown out by every ranked team.

Except UF.

Finish the season ranked, they are a bad football team. They will lose 6 games this year..

We don't have control over that.

So you are putting all the blame on the players for losing 41-14?

I will be happy to answer your question when you answer mine above (it is also below in case you missed it porsting).

Do you think strength of schedule is the only reason this defense is not having the same results as last year?
 
It'd be different if we were -6.5 like Clemson at home and gave up 50. But we were minus -21 which means that point blank we don't have the talent.


IT would be different if we lost by one or two TD's but we lost 41-14. We were embarassed in front of the whole country by our rival..
 
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