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Mario Hurricanes said:
My only concern is did FSU stop Cam by scheme or personnel? Can Manny just copy FSU's scheme and shut Ward down next week? Like TVD and Georgia Tech? Another thing is I bet the over and lost my ***! But that is my personal loss not a fanbase concern.
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Yeah first time all season the over didn’t hit, def expected Miami to put up 50+

But a win is a win and they ultimately covered the spread as well
 

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Allabouttheu95 said:
The fact that a 1-7 fsu team shut down our passing game which is supposed to be elite is extremely concerning. I just don’t see how this team can beat any of the p4 playoff teams. If Cam goes bonkers maybe but our Superman appeared to have met his kryptonite with that fsu gameplan.

Let’s hope we make some adjustments because I thought that Dawson was mediocre last night calling the game
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They “shut it down” huh? FSU played a two deep most of the game with less guys in the box than we’ve seen all year, so we ran the ball for almost 250, scoring 3 rushing TDs. As a result, the tempo of the game was slower, meaning less possessions. We scored on 7/8 drives.

We are 8-0 entering November for the second time in twenty years, scoring upper 30’s each week, yet you’re extremely concerned and talking about Kryptonite. Oh Godfather, what can I do?

YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MENG!!!!
 
Mario the plumber strikes again! 35 runs into the O line Butt hole! I love running the ball but my goodness up the gut every time? Can someone who knows football explain why we have zero versatility in the run game? Also Ajay Allen needs more touches. He can break one.

Random observation that was the friendliest Miami/Fsu game ive ever seen. Did not feel like a heated rivalry game at all. Idk if all the portal kids kind of takes the rivalry aspect out of it?
 
NPBCANE4 said:
Mario the plumber strikes again! 35 runs into the O line Butt hole! I love running the ball but my goodness up the gut every time? Can someone who knows football explain why we have zero versatility in the run game? Also Ajay Allen needs more touches. He can break one.

Random observation that was the friendliest Miami/Fsu game ive ever seen. Did not feel like a heated rivalry game at all. Idk if all the portal kids kind of takes the rivalry aspect out of it?
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FSU coming in 1-6 will do that to ‘em.
 
DMoney said:
..watching Georges St. Pierre fight in the UFC.

For those that don't follow MMA, St. Pierre was one of the first truly complete martial artists in the sport. He could box, he could kick, he knew jiu-jitsu, and he wrestled with Olympians. When he fought grapplers, he used his wrestling to avoid takedowns. This allowed him to keep fights on the feet when he had a striking advantage. If he was fighting a dominant striker, he took the fight to the ground and smothered his opponent. GSP fights weren't always exciting, but the outcome was rarely in doubt.

This game felt that way. FSU played two safeties deep for most of the game. They wanted to neutralize our passing game. The Canes responded by rushing for 230 yards (5.8 YPC) and 3 TDs. It wasn't exciting, but we were in control the whole time and ended up big on the scorecards. This remains the best offense in the country.

As we know, it’s our defense that will determine our ceiling. FSU didn’t test us much. They have no skill position or OL talent. But the defense played better, we’re healthy, and a house full of recruits saw us beat FSU by three touchdowns. Life is good.
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GSP! GSP! I stopped buying PPV when he hung it up.
 
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Allabouttheu95 said:
The fact that a 1-7 fsu team shut down our passing game which is supposed to be elite is extremely concerning. I just don’t see how this team can beat any of the p4 playoff teams. If Cam goes bonkers maybe but our Superman appeared to have met his kryptonite with that fsu gameplan.

Let’s hope we make some adjustments because I thought that Dawson was mediocre last night calling the game
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Feels more like we didn’t press the issue than FSU shut the passing game. FSU seemed very content to let us run and not get blown out.

And honestly, I don’t think shortening the game is the way to beat us. You gotta get us into a shootout and hope Cam makes some mistakes. If you are going to give light boxes all day our stable of RBs will wear the defense down.
 
NPBCANE4 said:
Mario the plumber strikes again! 35 runs into the O line Butt hole! I love running the ball but my goodness up the gut every time? Can someone who knows football explain why we have zero versatility in the run game? Also Ajay Allen needs more touches. He can break one.

Random observation that was the friendliest Miami/Fsu game ive ever seen. Did not feel like a heated rivalry game at all. Idk if all the portal kids kind of takes the rivalry aspect out of it?
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That's true. Even the USF game was more chippy.

I think that, if we're bring honest with ourselves, this has actually been kind of a ***tty rivalry, pretty much for 20 years now. So many poorly played games over that time, on both sides.
 
NPBCANE4 said:
Mario the plumber strikes again! 35 runs into the O line Butt hole! I love running the ball but my goodness up the gut every time? Can someone who knows football explain why we have zero versatility in the run game? Also Ajay Allen needs more touches. He can break one.

Random observation that was the friendliest Miami/Fsu game ive ever seen. Did not feel like a heated rivalry game at all. Idk if all the portal kids kind of takes the rivalry aspect out of it?
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It’s not zero versatility. Fletcher and Martinez are both big, north south runners which lends itself more to running between the tackles. Ajay is shiftier and he bounces it outside way more, but doesn’t play nearly as many snaps, which skews the optics.

Additionally, FSU has been weak against the run up front all year. I believe we targeted that in our game plan.

We averaged about 7 yards per carry last night. I’ll take that every time.
 
Y'all have a right to feel how Y'all feel but for me.... it will never not be exciting dominating a ******* rival. I guess I have different expectations from all of you but I always expect rivalry games to be close and for crazy shvt to happen. This whole game my heart was finally at ease lol. I remember when we used to suck but still had some pretty close games with good/great fsu teams.
 
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Mario Hurricanes said:
My only concern is did FSU stop Cam by scheme or personnel? Can Manny just copy FSU's scheme and shut Ward down next week? Like TVD and Georgia Tech? Another thing is I bet the over and lost my ***! But that is my personal loss not a fanbase concern.
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No, there will be counters to what Cam and Dawson saw last night. Plus, you can't just copy a scheme and expect the same results without the same coaching and personnel; it's just different. Styles make fights and, although it wasn't the sexiest, we were able to control the outcome of the game.

This was a very good opportunity to learn how our scheme/preparation/QB responds to zero coverage and heavy 6-man blitz packages. Plenty of teaching tape and we had no major injuries (Although I can't remember seeing or hearing E. Alston's name).

Now we work on blitz pick-up, counters & beating Duke.
 
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Fsu didn't do anything crazy vs what we've seen in the past. People harping on the OL, but our backs (specifically fletcher) also did a poor job of pass blocking. Cam was clearly off. Even when open, he was missing high. I do think FSUs DBs are very athletic and played well. Dawson didn't do the best job of scheming guys open. And when he did, we were flagged.

They realized early they were okay controlling the game and running it down their throats
 
Give credit where credit is due. FSU has good corners. We struggled to get open. If we go up against another team with corners that good then maybe it’s a problem. Let’s not act like anyone remaining on the schedule can say that. Now come playoff time that’s a different story. Cam probably has to play a little bit better then last night for us to have a shot.
 
I thought it was clear. FSU played to not get blown out. On defense, they played two high man and did not let Cam rip them apart. They kept 5 in the box. Which, we ran the ball and did it effectively. On offense, they kept a same game plan, keep Miami off the field. They clearly didn’t press the ball and tried to just keep possession. Which, they did. They ate a lot of clock.

Was it boring, yes. But I do think you also have to give cam and the team credit. We didn’t have those big pass numbers and didn’t let that dictate what we did. I was worried during the game we would start trying to force it. Which, we didn’t. And credit is deserved there.

I think we answered and showed some growth in some of the question marks we had for the team.

Run offense, really really good performance.
Turnovers (Cam). Again, didn’t force anything. He didn’t throw 4 Td, but we controlled the game from start to finish.
Defense (secondary). Bad offense, yes. But our secondary played well. OJ specifically, I watched the whole game. He blanketed anyone they had. Safeties had some better moments. In all, they did what they needed to do gain some confidence, and keep it going.

We could win a national championship 2-0 or 98-97. Either way we win. Right now, we just have to win. Keep it going. 8-0. State Champs!
 
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A lot of you all aren’t going to like what I say but I’ve been consistent in my critique early on. The root is Dawson. Ward is hiding a lot of Dawson’s ineffectiveness as a OC with his Heisman like play. Yesterday was a prime example and a missed opportunity for our TE’s to really be utilized. Forward thinking, some of us have already been talking about finding our next Cam in the portal for next year because Dawson has not developed a starting caliber QB here in the two years he’s been here. Recruiting “toolsy projects” vs legit prospects outside of Luke N. I’m enjoying the moment and the season but on the horizon that biggest issue is OC in my opinion.
 
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NPBCANE4 said:
Mario the plumber strikes again! 35 runs into the O line Butt hole! I love running the ball but my goodness up the gut every time? Can someone who knows football explain why we have zero versatility in the run game? Also Ajay Allen needs more touches. He can break one.

Random observation that was the friendliest Miami/Fsu game ive ever seen. Did not feel like a heated rivalry game at all. Idk if all the portal kids kind of takes the rivalry aspect out of it?
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FSU fans didn’t even show up for the game
 
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The thing I love about this offense is how versatile it is. If you want them to go out there and throw 50 times for tree-fitty and 4 TD’s they can do that, but if you need them to line up and play bully ball running it down your throat for 200+ we can go that route also. The thing is, with Cam, there’s a bunch of QB’s who say, “I don’t care about personal stats or glory, i just wanna win” but when he says it I believe it.
 
Bunker Mentality said:
No, there will be counters to what Cam and Dawson saw last night. Plus, you can't just copy a scheme and expect the same results without the same coaching and personnel; it's just different. Styles make fights and, although it wasn't ****, we were able to dominate the game.

This was a very good opportunity to learn how our scheme/preparation/QB responds to zero coverage and heavy 6-man blitz packages. Plenty of teaching tape and we had no major injuries (Although I can't remember seeing or hearing E. Alston's name).

Now we work on blitz pick-up, counters & beating Duke.
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Exactly. Cam has a lot to learn from this game himself. You could see how frustrated he was on the sidelines. Especially in the first half, but for much of the game, he played right into the defense's hands. Trying to extend plays when they are going all out to stop the pass, but finding nothing open so ultimately having to throw it away or take a sack. He had so many opportunities to run when the 1st or second read wasn't there, he could have had a 100 yd rushing game or by running he could have forced the D to change up their scheme, thus opening the passing game.
 
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