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Cane6 said:
I can’t remember the last time that our coordinators consistently gave our team a competitive advantage. Guidry for sure has
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Ive never seen coordinators stack things and add to their options in the pocket through the season like this before. Like really building from the beginning of the season to the end where by the end of the year these guys may be able to throw any concept or look to help win a game. It's awesome. It must suck for me to be a Hurricanes and Dolphins fan lol up until this point.
 
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Cane44 said:
what's the play vs. FSU... concentrate on shutting down the Run and Travis Runs, and take our risk with the WR's??? maybe assign JW or Kam to just drill Coleman all game long??
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My brother and I discussed this exact same thing today. Specifically having Williams stay deep to help the CBs
 
TOcane said:
Ive never seen coordinators stack things and add to their options in the pocket through the season like this before. Like really building from the beginning of the season to the end where by the end of the year these guys may be able to throw any concept or look to help win a game. It's awesome. It must suck for me to be a Hurricanes and Dolphins fan lol up until this point.
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Samesies
 
I'm a 3-3-5 guy. Used to be a 3-4 guy.
It's really not that much different though.
My Sam Linebacker is now just a Nickel/Linebacker hybrid instead of a true big bodied LB.

You want somebody who's in the range of 6'1" 190+ who can run, blitz, cover and tackle. This provides you with the flexibility that a true Nickel doesn't. (a true Nickel is too light to do certain things)
A big Nickel/hybrid allows you to get in and out of different fonts easier. He can cover + set the edge versus Tight End sets + blitz...and if you try to run bubbles at him he can obliterate most WR's who try to block him.

The defender on the opposite side of him in the 3-3-5 is our "Rush" Linebacker. He's a hybrid LB/DE type. Someone who's strong enough to hold the edge yet athletic enough to rush the passer and occasionally drop into coverage. And truthfully he doesn't have to be THAT athletic because when he DOES drop its generally only to the flats.
This allows you to utilize the element of surprise by occasionally bringing pressure from the field while dropping the Rush.

My Rush is a 6'1" 225lb kid who has numerous sacks and a pick-6 during one of those surprise drops.

These 2 positions...along with the Nose...are the recipe that makes this defense work.
The amount of fronts and blitzes that we're able to run during the course of a game is crazy...on top of all the slanting/ stunting we can do.
We'll be in "Bear" front one play and then 4-2-5 stuff on the next... while barely changing personnel.

We've only given up a total of 416 yards rushing on the entire season at 1.7 YPC...and that includes a schedule with Milton GA, Coconut Creek, STA and Heritage. (only gave up 3.7 YPC in those 4 games combined)

IMO if you're lining-up in a traditional 4-front all game every game, you're dead meat at some point. (unless your front-4 is full of studs)
 
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Coach Macho said:
I'm a 3-3-5 guy. Used to be a 3-4 guy.
It's really not that much different though.
My Sam Linebacker is now just a Nickel/Linebacker hybrid instead of a true big bodied LB.

You want somebody who's in the range of 6'1" 190+ who can run, blitz, cover and tackle. This provides you with the flexibility that a true Nickel doesn't. (a true Nickel is too light to do certain things)
A big Nickel/hybrid allows you to get in and out of different fonts easier. He can cover + set the edge versus Tight End sets + blitz...and if you try to run bubbles at him he can obliterate most WR's who try to block him.

The defender on the opposite side of him in the 3-3-5 is our "Rush" Linebacker. He's a hybrid LB/DE type. Someone who's strong enough to hold the edge yet athletic enough to rush the passer and occasionally drop into coverage. And truthfully he doesn't have to be THAT athletic because when he DOES drop its generally only to the flats.
This allows you to utilize the element of surprise by occasionally bringing pressure from the field while dropping the Rush.

My Rush is a 6'1" 225lb kid who has numerous sacks and a pick-6 during one of those surprise drops.

These 2 positions...along with the Nose...are the recipe that makes this defense work.
The amount of fronts and blitzes that we're able to run during the course of a game is crazy...on top of all the slanting/ stunting we can do.
We'll be in "Bear" front one play and then 4-2-5 stuff on the next... while barely changing personnel.

We've only given up a total of 416 yards rushing on the entire season at 1.7 YPC...and that includes a schedule with Milton GA, Coconut Creek, STA and Heritage. (only gave up 3.7 YPC in those 4 games combined)

IMO if you're lining-up in a traditional 4- front all game every game, you're dead meat at some point
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Better for disguising too. Like you said it’s just a 3-4 but in nickel form.
 
Yoyo82 said:
Good stuff... Flexible and outside the box thinking...
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No doubt. Imagine what he could do with the Ohio Taint or Alabama type DT litter with great linebackers and secondary.

Mario is trying to build, but the DT front and linebacker core…not to mention stellar CBS…Guidry would have a field day to be fair…he is a gamer with a spark of a defensive mind. I wish we could get him the embarrassment of riches…I would love to see that
 
rok said:
We don't have enough firepower at DE to warrant using two at a time in a 4-3. Might as well keep 3 LBs on the field and get creative with blitzing since rushing 4 DL wasn't yielding great results.
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Right I could see us using it more this year…I mean with Kelly out for the year now, we don't have other DE that HAVE to be on the field. Harvey is on the top side of JAG, but is still basically of JAG. And Mesidor if he ever gets back on the floor could be comfortable in either front, sort of like Bain.

Now next year and after that is a different story because you don't want to keep Kelly and a 2nd year Wayne off the field (no idea where Moss is at with his development)…Then after that you have Lightfoot, Pickett, Rudolph who aren't bear front types.
 
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Always been a fan of the Stack Defense but felt that we needed a NT to clog the middle against the run. Turns out, we dont, because LT may have just found his favourite spot: Align over the C and either attack him or shoot the A-Gap straight away. His getoff is his best ability and it disrupted the middle against Clemson all game. JHH has long arms and can bullrush fairly well, and he is a plus athlete in terms of speed. We can stunt and twist in the pass rush from all directions with the personnel that we have.

The question for me is, how well can we handle pulling guards and outside runs from these looks. Because Clemson rarely ran the ball in these directions, it was a lot towards the middle and they abandoned the run at some point straightaway.

Virginia likes to the run the ball in all directions and sell it with some candy by stacking receivers on the outside. Their O-Line is undersized but they play with some toughness and they can move. UNC got hammered off the ball at times.
 
In player pressers yesterday, both Bain and LT were asked what they thought of Guidry’s defense against Clemp$on. Both said they loved it. Will be interesting to see what Guidry does going forward having been so successful against Clemp$on and seemingly the players loved it.
 
rsa coral gables said:
how about the reverse? stop their WRs and make them run the ball
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Thought of it but i think i prefer us coming out as the aggressive strong front pounding their run game and hitting travis as much as possible. Letting them run is a slow death and gives them the appearance of pounding our D. Pause
 
Coach Macho said:
I'm a 3-3-5 guy. Used to be a 3-4 guy.
It's really not that much different though.
My Sam Linebacker is now just a Nickel/Linebacker hybrid instead of a true big bodied LB.

You want somebody who's in the range of 6'1" 190+ who can run, blitz, cover and tackle. This provides you with the flexibility that a true Nickel doesn't. (a true Nickel is too light to do certain things)
A big Nickel/hybrid allows you to get in and out of different fonts easier. He can cover + set the edge versus Tight End sets + blitz...and if you try to run bubbles at him he can obliterate most WR's who try to block him.

The defender on the opposite side of him in the 3-3-5 is our "Rush" Linebacker. He's a hybrid LB/DE type. Someone who's strong enough to hold the edge yet athletic enough to rush the passer and occasionally drop into coverage. And truthfully he doesn't have to be THAT athletic because when he DOES drop its generally only to the flats.
This allows you to utilize the element of surprise by occasionally bringing pressure from the field while dropping the Rush.

My Rush is a 6'1" 225lb kid who has numerous sacks and a pick-6 during one of those surprise drops.

These 2 positions...along with the Nose...are the recipe that makes this defense work.
The amount of fronts and blitzes that we're able to run during the course of a game is crazy...on top of all the slanting/ stunting we can do.
We'll be in "Bear" front one play and then 4-2-5 stuff on the next... while barely changing personnel.

We've only given up a total of 416 yards rushing on the entire season at 1.7 YPC...and that includes a schedule with Milton GA, Coconut Creek, STA and Heritage. (only gave up 3.7 YPC in those 4 games combined)

IMO if you're lining-up in a traditional 4- front all game every game, you're dead meat at some point
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Coaching question for @Coach Macho

Can a team run a traditional 4/3 and be competitive in this age of college football.

Also do any teams in the NFL still run the 4/3?
 
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Cane44 said:
Thought of it but i think i prefer us coming out as the aggressive strong front pounding their run game and hitting travis as much as possible. Letting them run is a slow death and gives them the appearance of pounding our D. Pause
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i dont think they can run on us. won't happen
 
canecrazy23 said:
Coaching question for @Coach Macho

Can a team run a traditional 4/3 and be competitive in this age of college football.

Also do any teams in the NFL still run the 4/3?
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I don't think anybody runs a traditional 4-3 anymore. Most defenses are using some sort of 4-2-5 to defend today's pass happy spread offenses.
4-3 means 3 LB's and that's not always ideal for stopping the spread/pass. Take out that 3rd LB and sub-in a DB, now you have a 4-2-5.
Now take out a DE and sub-in a Rush Outside Linebacker and you have a 3-3-5 look.

You can line-up similar in any of these defenses, it's really just about getting the best personnel/athletes on the field to match what the offense is giving you.

This is why really good Nickels + athletic tweener DE types have become so desired. They allow you to do so much more on defense without having to sub personnel.
 
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Just don’t understand why he didn’t game plan against a team that we knew was going to run all day and was not shy about letting us know.
 
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