Tuesday Practice

[NoVaCane04]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

Poor Howard has been getting toasted by Dorsett and Coley.

Poor Howard my nuts...the only thing this will do is make him better.

 

[am1640]

#TeamKevinOlsen

this, olsen has all the tools to be a great college QB, gotta work on his decision making, saw during the scrimmage him staring down receivers, and he tends to take way too many chances

so you want more of the same type of qb play we had last season? Good grief.

 

[rudebuddha]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

Poor Howard has been getting toasted by Dorsett and Coley.

Poor Howard my nuts...the only thing this will do is make him better.

Isn't Tracey pretty much right in Coley's hip pocket?
Looks to be less than a foot of separation.
Doesn't look like he's being toasted at all.

 

[sotacane22]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

 

[PUNCICANE]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

Poor Howard has been getting toasted by Dorsett and Coley.

Poor Howard my nuts...the only thing this will do is make him better.

Isn't Tracey pretty much right in Coley's hip pocket?
Looks to be less than a foot of separation.
Doesn't look like he's being toasted at all.

no one in college football is gonna be able to cover Stacy 1 on 1 on the outside this year.

Every time he's singled up outside without help, Williams should be throwing it to him.

 

[cane since birth]

#TeamKevinOlsen

this, olsen has all the tools to be a great college QB, gotta work on his decision making, saw during the scrimmage him staring down receivers, and he tends to take way too many chances

so you want more of the same type of qb play we had last season? Good grief.

thats just my assessment of olsen, but those problems i listed are things you expect from a RS Fr QB, i rather have him out there than williams, and williams isnt making the right decisions out there either, so you gotta go with who has the more talent

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!

To this day, still my favorite UM QB. You take away the Cleveland Gary BS call and homeboy wins two championships back to back.

Walsh and Dorsey are living proof you don't need a gun to be a great COLLEGE QB. If Williams fails...it won't be because of his arm. It's adequate.

 

[cane since birth]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

and tracy doesnt

 

[Hstokes1447]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

and tracy doesnt

No and he never will. Tracy is a 4.6, 4.5 guy at best.

 

[TriStarCane]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

and tracy doesnt

No and he never will. Tracy is a 4.6, 4.5 guy at best.

But is our best corner on Saturdays. Not worried.

 

[rudebuddha]

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!

To this day, still my favorite UM QB. You take away the Cleveland Gary BS call and homeboy wins two championships back to back.

Walsh and Dorsey are living proof you don't need a gun to be a great COLLEGE QB. If Williams fails...it won't be because of his arm. It's adequate.

Walsh, Dorsey and Kosar were exceptional qb's, and they all had above average arms.
Except Kosar, he had a very average arm.

All three of those qb's would rifle it when they had to, but they all had extraordinary timing, anticipation, leadership skills, and football IQ.
Same with Drew Brees when he was at Purdue and Montana at Notre Dame.

I don't think it's being critical, but stating the obvious, when I say that if RW exhibited the same intangible traits as those qb's, he would have been the best qb in college football the past couple years instead of a backup who lost his job at Memphis.

 

[cane since birth]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

and tracy doesnt

No and he never will. Tracy is a 4.6, 4.5 guy at best.

i wasnt saying that sarcasticly, he really isnt that fast, he ran a 4.5 at one point but that was his best time, his coverage skills are great though

 

[Rellyrell]

@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

the artie in black shirt is surprising, hes been playing like crap all spring

I think it's more of a message to TH3 vs. the play of Mr. Burns. Tracy has been getting torched on the field of play. He needs to be able to jam at the line of scrimmage.

 

[theibisrules]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

Poor Howard has been getting toasted by Dorsett and Coley.

THIS is what makes everyone better

 

[Hstokes1447]

Remember Dorset and Coley have elite speed and athleticism

and tracy doesnt

No and he never will. Tracy is a 4.6, 4.5 guy at best.

i wasnt saying that sarcasticly, he really isnt that fast, he ran a 4.5 at one point but that was his best time, his coverage skills are great though

Tracy is a great CB, but he will always have some issues with the faster guys. He will have to rely on technique more than a naturally fast guy, but he should be ok. I'm sure this demotion will force him to work on the little things.

 

[millertime26]

All this talk about his arm strength and limited knowledge of it; wasn't he the starter at Memphis for several games? There has to be footage to review from that.

ive seen him throw and his arm strength isnt bad but it aint good, he cant really sling the ball between defenders if he needed to

Yea he can you guys are way to worried about his arm strength

 

[Canesfan1899]

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!

To this day, still my favorite UM QB. You take away the Cleveland Gary BS call and homeboy wins two championships back to back.

Walsh and Dorsey are living proof you don't need a gun to be a great COLLEGE QB. If Williams fails...it won't be because of his arm. It's adequate.

Walsh, Dorsey and Kosar were exceptional qb's, and they all had above average arms.
Except Kosar, he had a very average arm.

All three of those qb's would rifle it when they had to, but they all had extraordinary timing, anticipation, leadership skills, and football IQ.
Same with Drew Brees when he was at Purdue and Montana at Notre Dame.

I don't think it's being critical, but stating the obvious, when I say that if RW exhibited the same intangible traits as those qb's, he would have been the best qb in college football the past couple years instead of a backup who lost his job at Memphis.

I love Dorsey, but dude had average arm strength at best. He was a master at reading the coverage and anticipating where the ball needed to be placed.

 

[Gamineal]

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!

To this day, still my favorite UM QB. You take away the Cleveland Gary BS call and homeboy wins two championships back to back.

Walsh and Dorsey are living proof you don't need a gun to be a great COLLEGE QB. If Williams fails...it won't be because of his arm. It's adequate.

******* tebow proved that...

 

[theibisrules]

Ryan Williams's arm is stronger than Ken Dorsey's was, correct? So we can put the discussion to rest. If Williams can be accurate and make good decisions he will be more than capable of leading this team.

only problem with that logic is Dorsey was a REAL LEADER on the field....more like a calming force who got it done on the field. Not only that guys really respected Dorsey.
[video=youtube;vFhqiTecnFo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFhqiTecnFo[/video]

 

[Canes2082]

@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

So from that pic you can tell that's a floater? Looks like it's right on target to me

How can you tell if it's on target? It's 30 feet in the air. Coley is 20-25 yards from the qb and the ball is 10 yards in the air, hopefully at its highest point. If it's on a downward trajectory that would mean it was maybe 15 yards in height.

Lol so it's 30 feet in the air...now 10 feet but then back to 15ft???