Tuesday Practice

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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.

you do know that any pass thrown more than 15 yards down field is technically a "deep pass", right?

No, I didn't know that.

Always thought that 15-25 yards was an intermediate throw.
 
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The TD from Williams to Dorsett in the forst scrimmage was a solid deep throw that didn't float badly. People are making WAY too much out of Williams arm strength. It won't be an issue if he's accurate when the bullets start flying, and if he's not accurate it won't matter if he has a cannon. I'm worried Williams will struggle in the lead role as much as anybody, but he has enough physical tools that what gonna matter is his head and his accuracy, not his arm strength. Lets hope his head and accuracy are sufficient to win or that Olsen is ready to take over in the fall.
 
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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

So from that pic you can tell that's a floater? Looks like it's right on target to me

How can you tell if it's on target? It's 30 feet in the air. Coley is 20-25 yards from the qb and the ball is 10 yards in the air, hopefully at its highest point. If it's on a downward trajectory that would mean it was maybe 15 yards in height.

holy **** fold the program
 
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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

So from that pic you can tell that's a floater? Looks like it's right on target to me

Teddy Bridgewater throws lots of floaters that land in WRs hands for TDs...

It's not his arm strength that worries me. I'm just praying he doesn't turn into Spencer Wipple vs a real defense.

Whatever your opinion of Teddy Bridgewater's pro potential, he is a top ten 1st round draft pick.
He can make all the throws, and throws lasers when he has to.

Your reference of RW to Bridgewater is pretty inaccurate. Your reference to Whipple is probably what I and ever objective Cane's fan is most worried about.

I've seen exceptional qb's like Kosar throw wounded ducks all over the field in college and the pro's and excel, but those qb's were once in a decade type qb's.
I'm pretty sure RW is not a once in a decade qb. The jury's still out on Olsen as he's only starting his redshirt freshman season.
 
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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!
 
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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

So from that pic you can tell that's a floater? Looks like it's right on target to me

How can you tell if it's on target? It's 30 feet in the air. Coley is 20-25 yards from the qb and the ball is 10 yards in the air, hopefully at its highest point. If it's on a downward trajectory that would mean it was maybe 15 yards in height.

holy **** fold the program

No, not fold the season, just see it for what it is.

If RW is our qb then it is pretty obvious his margin for error is miniscule.
He's not going to be rifling the ball into tight windows, and we are going to be a ball control offense.

Nothing wrong with that, especially when we will have Duke, Yearby and Gus.
 
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@MiamiHurricanes: Stacy Coley gets behind Tracy Howard on a Ryan Williams deep ball pic.twitter.com/5EK7paL8vw

What scares me about that pic is that is called a "deep ball" when it is a pass 20-25 yards downfield.
Floater after floater from RW no matter the distance of the throw.

People are overreacting to the arm strength. His arm strength is plenty as long as he throws spirals, is efficient and manages the game well. I know ideally you want a Stephen Morris arm with a Ken Dorsey brain, but they can't all be like that. I'd rather have an efficient guy who can throw 20-30 yard darts consistentyl than a guy who can throw 70 yard bombs but can't manage an intermediate game.

I'd take that to, if they were 20-30 yard darts, but they aren't.
I've never seen RW throw a dart.

RW has his strengths.
He seems to be mature, knows the play book, plays within himself, is relatively accurate in practice.

I will give you an analogy. AJ Highsmith, Kacy Rodgers and Jimmy Gaines were all mature and smart players. They all knew the play book. They were all senior leaders and didn't make many mental errors.

Again, I'm hoping RW becomes Steve Walsh, but for the team's sake and for the future health of his receivers, he needs to start actually throwing some darts.
Those floaters may get there in practice, but games are not practice. In real games those floaters are going to get picked off or batted away, and our wr's are going to get their chests caved in from safeties and linebackers who will have that extra time to close, because the passes aren't close to being lasers.

May ALL our QBs until the end of time turn into STEVE WALSH!

I could live with that.
 
I don't have the benefit of watching practices, but what I saw of Williams last year showed me his arm is fine. He throws a nice ball - it's no laser, but I think it's efficient. We'll see.
 
Ryan Williams's arm is stronger than Ken Dorsey's was, correct? So we can put the discussion to rest. If Williams can be accurate and make good decisions he will be more than capable of leading this team.
 
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@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

the artie in black shirt is surprising, hes been playing like crap all spring
 
@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

DALLAS CRAWFORD?!? Taking spots...
 
All this talk about his arm strength and limited knowledge of it; wasn't he the starter at Memphis for several games? There has to be footage to review from that.
 
@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

DALLAS CRAWFORD?!? Taking spots...

dallas during the scrimmage was busting heads in, he only messed up once and that was a goal line TD run
 
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All this talk about his arm strength and limited knowledge of it; wasn't he the starter at Memphis for several games? There has to be footage to review from that.

ive seen him throw and his arm strength isnt bad but it aint good, he cant really sling the ball between defenders if he needed to
 
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@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

the artie in black shirt is surprising, hes been playing like crap all spring

According to who?? A few clips you've seen??

Have u been at all the practices?? Because clearly the coaches think he's been doing something right.

Just wondering how u jumped to that conclusion.
 
@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

DALLAS CRAWFORD?!? Taking spots...

And Grace.
Looks like our defense is going to have a legitimate 2 deep, with most of the players sophomores or juniors.

Starting to have a pretty good feeling about this year.
 
A Dallas Crawford/Jamal Carter safety tandem is interesting.

Don't care if Williams or any QB throws floaters as soft as dove ****, as long as he is completing passes and getting the ball to guys in space.

I wonder what Corn Elder can bring this year.
 
@mattyports: Earl Moore the first #Canes DT this spring to earn a black jersey. Alex Figueroa, Tracy Howard lose their black shirts.


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports · 22m
New in black, besides Moore: Jermaine Grace, Dallas Crawford, Artie Burns. Perryman, Kirby still in black.

the artie in black shirt is surprising, hes been playing like crap all spring

All spring?

Hasn't he only been at practice for like a week due to the track commitment?
 
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