Tracy Howard: We have to have coach D's back

At the risk of being tarred and feathered as a Dorito apologist, allow me to suggest, that MAYBE, just MAYBE, its a combination of factors that has lead to a breakdown on defense. That is not to absolve the DC here at all, but simply saying "its the scheme" or "Dorito sucks" is a major oversimplification.

Every "scheme" has flaws in it. If there was a perfect "scheme" then every team would run it. Our problem is we cant seem to fix a glaring hole in our system. And personally, I think it starts with our LBs. The DL has its problems too, and I wont even discuss the dumpster fire that is our Safties. I saw play after play on Saturday night, where guys were blowing assignments. Someone mentioned Gilbert in another thread and how he seems to have forgotten how to play football. No, maybe its just that after years in a different system, he doesnt quite have our down, and makes mistakes. Just like some of our younger players. I mean people keep screaming about "why do we only use McCord and AQM in passing situations, they should be in more, well, if they were good against the run, dont you think they would be in more? Why would ANY DC play an inferior player for most of the snaps, if they had a better guy on the bench? I mean its not like we dont play young guys.

At the end of the day, the DC is still responsible to fix this mess. But to suggest that players ******** up, or that we do NOT have the talent and depth we need to have on defense is somehow being an apologist, or that its not a big part of the problem, is choosing to live in denial.
 
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Tracy isn't bucking Ono again. Dude wants to keep playing, not join Scott in the doghouse.
 
All this tells me is that we have 1 of 2 problems.

Either:

The coaches haven't properly taught the players what to do in certain situations or the players are choosing to ignore the coaching.

This is Dorito's third year coordinating and most of players 2nd or 3rd season in this system. If they don't understand it by now there's a ****ing problem.


I just dont think we have speed on defense, we have players who are terrible in space, and the worst ones play in the biggest spaces; we are dreadful at outside backer and safety

stop embarassing yourself

How made you the know-all sage of divine wisdom? Do you honestly believe that one DC is responsible for the whole of the defenses problems? You giving Dorito way too much respect in that regard. If our players have to be dragged 30 yards while making a tackle, then a new DC is the least of our concerns.
 
All this tells me is that we have 1 of 2 problems.

Either:

The coaches haven't properly taught the players what to do in certain situations or the players are choosing to ignore the coaching.

This is Dorito's third year coordinating and most of players 2nd or 3rd season in this system. If they don't understand it by now there's a ****ing problem.


I just dont think we have speed on defense, we have players who are terrible in space, and the worst ones play in the biggest spaces; we are dreadful at outside backer and safety

stop embarassing yourself

Im not, im thinking objectively, both our safeties are 4.6-4.7 guys, we dont have spaceeaters, you know what makes a scheme look really good, having a phucking spacegobbler close the gap lightning quick when something breaks down

you cant have Miami standards for wins and losses and not have Miami standards for players
 
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Its called acoountability, its called a changing culture, its called a kid that knows that the better days are ahead and coming, its called stay the course and understand what has to be done to continually improve this program, and firing coaches is not gonna do it. Its called they know and you dont, hes our next highly drafted DB, whci would be the first since 2007

C'mon. What else can he possibly say? Even the hint of blaming his defensive coordinator would be disastrous for himself and the team. I think it's very short-sighted to attribute anything to a player's answers to the media

I think the way he said it would lead most to believe it aint lip service, but whatever makes u happy


None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

And you may have pretty much hit the nail on the head, and as far as "scheme" goes, I think that is the MAJOR problem with our scheme. I think we are trying to do TOO much, and arent good at any one thing. Too much mixing it up, too many different personnel packages, and our guys end up confused as **** and you get the breakdowns we have seen. No scheme or DC is going to call plays allowing players to be as wide open as these guys have been. That tells you there is a major miscommunication going on. I think if we picked one system, and just focused on being good at that, with some tweaks and a few wrinkles, we would be better off than trying to run all this hybrid sh*t and switching back and forth between alignments and base sets.
 
Player talk

Tracy isn't bucking Ono again. Dude wants to keep playing, not join Scott in the doghouse.

Why say anything then? Why go into such emphatic detail? He could just say, "yeah we have to do a better job as players tackling and knowing our assignments". or some generic "player speak" to not **** anyone off. Why go into such an emphatic defense of the DC if he didnt really feel that at least PART of the problem here is that guys arent doing what they are supposed to do.
 
Its called acoountability, its called a changing culture, its called a kid that knows that the better days are ahead and coming, its called stay the course and understand what has to be done to continually improve this program, and firing coaches is not gonna do it. Its called they know and you dont, hes our next highly drafted DB, whci would be the first since 2007

C'mon. What else can he possibly say? Even the hint of blaming his defensive coordinator would be disastrous for himself and the team. I think it's very short-sighted to attribute anything to a player's answers to the media

I think the way he said it would lead most to believe it aint lip service, but whatever makes u happy


None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

There's an entire article on Golden telling everyone to put the blame on him... What more do you want?

Al Golden isn't gonna sit there and say "our guys are doing a great job executing the gameplan" after giving up 600000 yards to a ****** offense. I guarantee that wouldn't sit right with the fans either.

Yeah, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand he says it's his responsibility, but in the next sentence he's saying players are blowing assignments. So, my takeaway is that he and Donofrio don't think it's the defensive play calling, they believe it's the players. But 3 years in, that is not compelling.
 
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It's a dictatorship in a football team.

Unless you're the dolphins, in that case it's just anarchy
 
C'mon. What else can he possibly say? Even the hint of blaming his defensive coordinator would be disastrous for himself and the team. I think it's very short-sighted to attribute anything to a player's answers to the media

I think the way he said it would lead most to believe it aint lip service, but whatever makes u happy


None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

There's an entire article on Golden telling everyone to put the blame on him... What more do you want?

Al Golden isn't gonna sit there and say "our guys are doing a great job executing the gameplan" after giving up 600000 yards to a ****ty offense. I guarantee that wouldn't sit right with the fans either.

Yeah, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand he says it's his responsibility, but in the next sentence he's saying players are blowing assignments. So, my takeaway is that he and Donofrio don't think it's the defensive play calling, they believe it's the players. But 3 years in, that is not compelling.

I get you, but that's just the reality of it. It's the coaching staff's fault primarily, but the players should be held accountable for their mistakes as well. They shouldn't be babied and told they're doing everything right when our defense is garbage.
 
C'mon. What else can he possibly say? Even the hint of blaming his defensive coordinator would be disastrous for himself and the team. I think it's very short-sighted to attribute anything to a player's answers to the media

I think the way he said it would lead most to believe it aint lip service, but whatever makes u happy


None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

There's an entire article on Golden telling everyone to put the blame on him... What more do you want?

Al Golden isn't gonna sit there and say "our guys are doing a great job executing the gameplan" after giving up 600000 yards to a ****** offense. I guarantee that wouldn't sit right with the fans either.

Yeah, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand he says it's his responsibility, but in the next sentence he's saying players are blowing assignments. So, my takeaway is that he and Donofrio don't think it's the defensive play calling, they believe it's the players. But 3 years in, that is not compelling.

Why can't it be both? Why should it be one versus the other?
 
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I think the way he said it would lead most to believe it aint lip service, but whatever makes u happy


None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

There's an entire article on Golden telling everyone to put the blame on him... What more do you want?

Al Golden isn't gonna sit there and say "our guys are doing a great job executing the gameplan" after giving up 600000 yards to a ****** offense. I guarantee that wouldn't sit right with the fans either.

Yeah, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand he says it's his responsibility, but in the next sentence he's saying players are blowing assignments. So, my takeaway is that he and Donofrio don't think it's the defensive play calling, they believe it's the players. But 3 years in, that is not compelling.

Why can't it be both? Why should it be one versus the other?

There's no question that the players are blowing their assignments. Clearly that is part of the problem, as I certainly do not believe Donofrio is implementing a scheme to intentionally leave crossing routes wide open, time after time.

But, in my humble view, the players are making these mistakes, bc this apparently complicated "multiple" defense has them thinking way too much, instead of attacking the football. So my hope was that the coaches would dump the 3-4 hybrid stuff and simplify matters moving forward. i could be wrong, but I don't sense any intention to change the scheme based on Donofrio's and Golden's comments.
 
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Man F*CK Howard. Apologist. WTF does he know anyway? I post on a MESSAGE BOARD dog. All we need to do is fire Dorito and we will be playing for the MNC next year.

All the players during the Coker years said the same things. Ditto for the dark ages under Shannon.

Just sayin
 
None of this makes me happy. It is incredibly disappointing.

The only silver lining i could come up with after Saturday, was that the coaches would accept full responsibility, drop this hybrid 3-4 / 4-3, which apparently is so confusing our players are letting players run loose, and simplify to a more attack-oriented 4-3.

but the coaches are blaming the players, which does not inspire confidence. this is the first week I can remember in Golden's tenure, where I have concerns about the program's direction. While that may be overstating things a little, there is no way to ignore the schematic problems we displayed against VT.

There's an entire article on Golden telling everyone to put the blame on him... What more do you want?

Al Golden isn't gonna sit there and say "our guys are doing a great job executing the gameplan" after giving up 600000 yards to a ****** offense. I guarantee that wouldn't sit right with the fans either.

Yeah, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. On the one hand he says it's his responsibility, but in the next sentence he's saying players are blowing assignments. So, my takeaway is that he and Donofrio don't think it's the defensive play calling, they believe it's the players. But 3 years in, that is not compelling.

Why can't it be both? Why should it be one versus the other?

There's no question that the players are blowing their assignments. Clearly that is part of the problem, as I certainly do not believe Donofrio is implementing a scheme to intentionally leave crossing routes wide open, time after time.

But, in my humble view, the players are making these mistakes, bc this apparently complicated "multiple" defense has them thinking way too much, instead of attacking the football. So my hope was that the coaches would dump the 3-4 hybrid stuff and simplify matters moving forward. i could be wrong, but I don't sense any intention to change the scheme based on Donofrio's and Golden's comments.

That could be true. Donofrio might as well play either a 3-4 or 4-3 and just go with it instead of trying to get cute with hybrid sets and all that.
 
Ah yes, so it has begun. This played out the same way during Coker and Shannon's time here. The article with the players defending the coaches comes out, where they put them blame on themselves.

Things are following the script perfectly.

Remember when Zook's players almost boycotted the game after he got fired? This is how it always goes. I've never once seen a college player attack his corches in the media.
 
Sounds like poor Tracy caught Stockholm Syndrome. I feel badly for the kid having to sit there and blame himself for his captor's malfeasance.
 
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