Todays scrimmage

[ARJB]

What on Earth are people seeing in Chickillo's game that makes them think he's a 10+ sack guy?

He's a fine player and all, but getting sacks isn't part of his game. Usually all he gets are hustle sacks anyways, and those aren't exactly easy to accumulate a large number of.

I've watched plenty of Miami football and I think Chick will be great at getting sacks. He's a high motor guy that gets after it. He was wreaking havoc in his All Star game? WTF is a hustle sack and what constitutes a real sack in *** speak?

Chick is a high-motor player, I'll agree with that. His performance in a high school All-Star game has nothing to do with his college production, irrelevant point.

A hustle sack is essentially a sack that you get not because you beat the opposing tackle or guard, but more because the QB has to hold the ball for so long that eventually he gets sacked. Basically a pressure sack. A "real" sack is when you get one from beating your man...and lets be honest, how often have we seen Chick do that?

Chick is a DE who can set the edge, stop the run and get the occasional sack. That's a great type of player to have on a team, but people have to realize what he is and not expect more than that from him.

 

[k9cane]

BTW, based on what I saw last night, I think Coach Coley is going to be a very good play caller for UM. There was tremendous balance between run and pass, the sequence ofplays were not predictable, he got the TE and FB involved in the game, and I didn't see any of the one yard passes we grew to expect from Ned Fisch. I was disappointed after Ned Fisch left, but I think we've upgraded the OC position not only from a recruiting standpoint, but also from a play calling standpoint.

Wingz, do you get the sense that Coley will be more willing to hammer the running game, at times, when the going is good there? That was always the one thing that was frustrating about Fisch....

 

[Ibis Wingz]

BTW, based on what I saw last night, I think Coach Coley is going to be a very good play caller for UM. There was tremendous balance between run and pass, the sequence ofplays were not predictable, he got the TE and FB involved in the game, and I didn't see any of the one yard passes we grew to expect from Ned Fisch. I was disappointed after Ned Fisch left, but I think we've upgraded the OC position not only from a recruiting standpoint, but also from a play calling standpoint.

Wingz, do you get the sense that Coley will be more willing to hammer the running game, at times, when the going is good there? That was always the one thing that was frustrating about Fisch....

I get the feeling that Coach Coley will call whatever plays he thinks will work. If that means running the FB into the A gap 50 straight times until the other team shows they can stop it, he will do so. He will not call plays just to call plays.

 

[L A M P]

I'm callin it now: Corey King to Safety.

 

[DiegoCane]

You can make all the excuses u want. Give all the accolades u want. Tell me how there "good kids", "great team guys", and all that other BS. But as long as Green, Highsmith, and KC are getting significant burn we will never be any better then a 8 win team.

These guys are not BCS game type players. U can't beat the UFs and FSUs of the world with these guys getting sig playing time. I love them cuz they are canes but those are just the facts. Otherwise, it sounded like a good scrimmage.

All 3 of those guys are going to play this year and we are going to win more then 8 games. Does that mean you are going to have to rethink your theory?

 

[jerzeycane]

You can make all the excuses u want. Give all the accolades u want. Tell me how there "good kids", "great team guys", and all that other BS. But as long as Green, Highsmith, and KC are getting significant burn we will never be any better then a 8 win team.

These guys are not BCS game type players. U can't beat the UFs and FSUs of the world with these guys getting sig playing time. I love them cuz they are canes but those are just the facts. Otherwise, it sounded like a good scrimmage.

All 3 of those guys are going to play this year and we are going to win more then 8 games. Does that mean you are going to have to rethink your theory?

No, he'll just champion the F.O.M.O. (Fan Of My Opinion) until it becomes clear that it might not play out as he thought, at which point he will begin to trumpet excuses (which he admittedly won't accept from anyone else), qualifiers, and extraneous circumstances that occurred which would allow for his outlandish and unproven theory to remain.

 

[asfasfasf]

Now just got another text saying he's on the field.

Peter, you son of a ****.

my all time favorite unnecessary movie scene

 

[OldhamA]

BTW, based on what I saw last night, I think Coach Coley is going to be a very good play caller for UM. There was tremendous balance between run and pass, the sequence ofplays were not predictable, he got the TE and FB involved in the game, and I didn't see any of the one yard passes we grew to expect from Ned Fisch. I was disappointed after Ned Fisch left, but I think we've upgraded the OC position not only from a recruiting standpoint, but also from a play calling standpoint.

Wingz, do you get the sense that Coley will be more willing to hammer the running game, at times, when the going is good there? That was always the one thing that was frustrating about Fisch....

Isn't the accepted narrative that Golden told Fisch to run up the score because he knew the D wouldn't hold up? i.e. attack, attack, attack.

 

[asfasfasf]

i said this last year with kacy and highsmith both getting burn all year. Why not move a corner back to safety ie crawford. Put your best players on the field

I've said this before, I think Tracy Howard would be a good safety.

I think Tracy Howard would make a good 4th corner

 

[k9cane]

BTW, based on what I saw last night, I think Coach Coley is going to be a very good play caller for UM. There was tremendous balance between run and pass, the sequence ofplays were not predictable, he got the TE and FB involved in the game, and I didn't see any of the one yard passes we grew to expect from Ned Fisch. I was disappointed after Ned Fisch left, but I think we've upgraded the OC position not only from a recruiting standpoint, but also from a play calling standpoint.

Wingz, do you get the sense that Coley will be more willing to hammer the running game, at times, when the going is good there? That was always the one thing that was frustrating about Fisch....

Isn't the accepted narrative that Golden told Fisch to run up the score because he knew the D wouldn't hold up? i.e. attack, attack, attack.

Yeah, Ive heard that, but you can attack by running the ball, too, right? Again, I accept that Miami was always going to be a team that passed the majority of times( most teams are nowadays) but there are times if you're just pushing the opposition around upfront that handing the ball off is the best play( over and over again)

 

[WhatTheHell]

Chick ain't producing a high number of sacks. He's not a fast-twitch guy. AQM is.

 

[The Franchise]

TEMPLE IS IN THE MAC
WE IN THE ACC
DIFFERENCE IN COMP LEVEL
SO WHATEVER GOLDEN DID UP THERE
CANNOT BE TRULY COMPARED TO HERE

Same thing goofs said about Urban Meyers before he went to ufaag.

I guess according to some, unless you succeed at another power conference program, you can't possibly succeed at a place like UM. BTW, isn't the MAC a place where some of the best coaches of recent memory have learned their trade?

Last I checked, that's what good coaches do. They learned their trade at lower levels and move up up the ladder...

Nick Saban sucks too because he started out in the MAC.

 

[Picksix]

What on Earth are people seeing in Chickillo's game that makes them think he's a 10+ sack guy?

He's a fine player and all, but getting sacks isn't part of his game. Usually all he gets are hustle sacks anyways, and those aren't exactly easy to accumulate a large number of.

I've watched plenty of Miami football and I think Chick will be great at getting sacks. He's a high motor guy that gets after it. He was wreaking havoc in his All Star game? WTF is a hustle sack and what constitutes a real sack in *** speak?

Chick is a high-motor player, I'll agree with that. His performance in a high school All-Star game has nothing to do with his college production, irrelevant point.

A hustle sack is essentially a sack that you get not because you beat the opposing tackle or guard, but more because the QB has to hold the ball for so long that eventually he gets sacked. Basically a pressure sack. A "real" sack is when you get one from beating your man...and lets be honest, how often have we seen Chick do that?

Chick is a DE who can set the edge, stop the run and get the occasional sack. That's a great type of player to have on a team, but people have to realize what he is and not expect more than that from him.

By Miami standards Chick shouldn't even have had big minutes on this defense yet. He should have come in and gotten a shirt. Last year he should have gotten some PT and gotten his feet wet. This is supposed to be the year we see what Chick is made of. Teams game planned for him to take him out of games last year. This year teams are going to have account for a lot more weapons on our defense. Also, Chick isn't going to play all game long and be able to bring it when he's in.

You agree Chick is a high motor guy. A high motor guy is going to make moves and create disruption against opposing defenses. Chick was a stud coming out of HS and I disagree that All Star games don't give an indication of how guys might do in college. He was the MVP of his All Star game. He was all over the field in that game.

 

[SFbayCane]

TEMPLE IS IN THE MAC
WE IN THE ACC
DIFFERENCE IN COMP LEVEL
SO WHATEVER GOLDEN DID UP THERE
CANNOT BE TRULY COMPARED TO HERE

Same thing goofs said about Urban Meyers before he went to ufaag.

I guess according to some, unless you succeed at another power conference program, you can't possibly succeed at a place like UM. BTW, isn't the MAC a place where some of the best coaches of recent memory have learned their trade?

Last I checked, that's what good coaches do. They learned their trade at lower levels and move up up the ladder...

Franchise: Great example. I remember Alex Smith looking like Joe Montana in urban meyer's offense at utah, then looking like doo-doo in the Niners offense until Jim Harbaugh came along, then Smith looked like an elite QB again. Hmmm. Maybe good coaching does mean something.


k9: I totally disagree. Good coaches just land great jobs in their first job as a head coach. Sincerely, Paul Dee.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Chick and Green are non-explosive oafs. That's the reality. Think of the great pass rushers and what's a trait they all share? Lightning quick get-offs. Chick doesn't have that burst in his first few steps out of his stance. He can be a solid contributor, but he doesn't have the skill set of a double digit sack guy in this man's opinion.

 

[k9cane]

TEMPLE IS IN THE MAC
WE IN THE ACC
DIFFERENCE IN COMP LEVEL
SO WHATEVER GOLDEN DID UP THERE
CANNOT BE TRULY COMPARED TO HERE

Same thing goofs said about Urban Meyers before he went to ufaag.

I guess according to some, unless you succeed at another power conference program, you can't possibly succeed at a place like UM. BTW, isn't the MAC a place where some of the best coaches of recent memory have learned their trade?

Last I checked, that's what good coaches do. They learned their trade at lower levels and move up up the ladder...

Franchise: Great example. I remember Alex Smith looking like Joe Montana in urban meyer's offense at utah, then looking like doo-doo in the Niners offense until Jim Harbaugh came along, then Smith looked like an elite QB again. Hmmm. Maybe good coaching does mean something.


k9: I totally disagree. Good coaches just land great jobs in their first job as a head coach. Sincerely, Paul Dee.

What's amazing is that Dee made the same mistake twice with Coker and Shannon

Look at UM's history, Jimmy Johnson came from Okie St, Dennis ERRickson from Wazzu- based on that, they never should have succeeded, I guess. These were run of the mill programs that played second and third fiddle in the Big 8 and Pac 10.

 

[zone3cane]

You can make all the excuses u want. Give all the accolades u want. Tell me how there "good kids", "great team guys", and all that other BS. But as long as Green, Highsmith, and KC are getting significant burn we will never be any better then a 8 win team.

These guys are not BCS game type players. U can't beat the UFs and FSUs of the world with these guys getting sig playing time. I love them cuz they are canes but those are just the facts. Otherwise, it sounded like a good scrimmage.

okay so in your mind Miami is only going to win 8 games this year b/c of 3 role players right??.... make sure u mark that down.

 

[zone3cane]

The starting D-line rotation should be Chick/Porter/Robinson/Pierre... I'm not in here crowning Green like he's a future all-american, he's just a solid role player, that deserves to have a role along the defensive line.

Also the pathetic depth issues at safety is why i wanted the coaching staff to recruit Artie Burns as a safety in the 1st place.... now we are in here worrying about Rayshawn Jenkins, Kc Rodgers, and AJ Highsmith.

If Artie Burns and Jamal Carter were both safeties the safety position wouldnt be a weakness at all.

 

[Picksix]

TEMPLE IS IN THE MAC
WE IN THE ACC
DIFFERENCE IN COMP LEVEL
SO WHATEVER GOLDEN DID UP THERE
CANNOT BE TRULY COMPARED TO HERE

Same thing goofs said about Urban Meyers before he went to ufaag.

I guess according to some, unless you succeed at another power conference program, you can't possibly succeed at a place like UM. BTW, isn't the MAC a place where some of the best coaches of recent memory have learned their trade?

Last I checked, that's what good coaches do. They learned their trade at lower levels and move up up the ladder...

Franchise: Great example. I remember Alex Smith looking like Joe Montana in urban meyer's offense at utah, then looking like doo-doo in the Niners offense until Jim Harbaugh came along, then Smith looked like an elite QB again. Hmmm. Maybe good coaching does mean something.


k9: I totally disagree. Good coaches just land great jobs in their first job as a head coach. Sincerely, Paul Dee.

What's amazing is that Dee made the same mistake twice with Coker and Shannon

Look at UM's history, Jimmy Johnson came from Okie St, Dennis ERRickson from Wazzu- based on that, they never should have succeeded, I guess. These were run of the mill programs that played second and third fiddle in the Big 8 and Pac 10.

Not true, Dee's first mistake was extending Coker's contract the way in which he did it. Coker was hired not to ***** anything up. Dee was pressured to extend Cokers contract because Coker was being courted by other Universities when he won the way he did. Problem was just about anybody could have been brought up from Butch's staff to win that National Championship. The real test was keeping that momentum going the way Butch built it.

Randy was hired because Dee's hands were tied at that point in time. Coker was a dud and the football program had to have momentum. The only problem was you couldn't pay Coker's ludicrous contract and pay good money to a proven HC. Dee was stuck trying to get somebody for pennies on the dollar so he took a shot with Randy. Randy proved he wasn't cut out to a HC, Coker's contract expired, and Golden was brought in.

Dee should have given Coker a higher dollar amount contract that was negotiable annually. As soon as it became evident that Coker wasn't the man for the job he could have cut bait. Instead he was stuck Coker and Coker threw the staff under the bus once it was evident. But hey, hindsight is 20/20...

 

[rok]

We should wear orange on orange for every home game

Storm troopers for every away game