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JHallCanes said:
Hopefully when Alston (if) comes back we get better here as well. He plays with good discipline or at least what he showed early this year
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I think Mesidor replacing Baron solves most of the issue IMO. Not to beat a dead horse but he just wasn't good out there. But getting Alston back will be huge so the line stays fresh and you can rotate Bain, Mesidor and Alston. Sprinkle in Baron in obvious passing situations.

On a general note - I think all year we're playing folks where they're not as comfortable (Porter, Mesidor, Powell at times) because we're scared of the alternative (Clark, Moten, Williams, Patterson etc.). But I rather keep my best players where they will play their best, and dip into your two deep where you had an injury. I think the defensive staff got way too cute with personnel.
 
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TRick72 said:
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Didn't even read the whole thread. Saw one apologist and came to say this...

My 15-18 year olds can line-up to that formation right now.

Here's the exact same formation from this past Friday. (2nd clip)



No excuse for this to still be happening.
 
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They got us on that play. I believe Kiko is responsible for shifting them. It did not happen. But was this an outlier for how we lined up the rest of the game? Did we line up correctly 90% of the time or more? If so that is improvement.
 
FWIW, the ANALytics thought it was the best game our D has played this year (WF while dog**** a better offense than Balls State)

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ageezy said:


cmon now ... that's coaching and recognizing strong side ... this is the stuff that put guidry on the hot seat
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I mentioned it a bunch of times on threads dealing with alignment and so forth. In the Louisville game they had a 3rd and 2 or 3. All of our DL were lined up outside of the tackles with only 2 LBs occupying both A and B gaps. Shockingly Chaney went for about 25 or so right up the middle. That’s scheme. It has to be, because if you’re the coach and you see that you call time out before the snap to get them lined up right.
 
SantanaMoss6 said:
I think Mesidor replacing Baron solves most of the issue IMO. Not to beat a dead horse but he just wasn't good out there. But getting Alston back will be huge so the line stays fresh and you can rotate Bain, Mesidor and Alston. Sprinkle in Baron in obvious passing situations.

On a general note - I think all year we're playing folks where they're not as comfortable (Porter, Mesidor, Powell at times) because we're scared of the alternative (Clark, Moten, Williams, Patterson etc.). But I rather keep my best players where they will play their best, and dip into your two deep where you had an injury. I think the defensive staff got way too cute with personnel.
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Mesidor and Alston to me were probably the two highest IQ guys in the front 7 so yeah I’m with you. But if a trickle down effect of our DT spots getting healthy and giving Barrow some help

As much as we kept talking about Porter playing out of position, Mesidor playing DT instead of DE was probably hurting us just as badly if not worse
 
Coach Macho said:
Didn't even read the whole thread. Saw one apologist and came to say this...

My 15-18 year olds can line-up to that formation right now.

Here's the exact same formation from this past Friday. (2nd clip)



No excuse for this to still be happening.
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Can you assign a % breakdown on whose fault this is?

Players vs Coaches? Example…. 60/40 on players??
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Agreed.

Three receivers to the left WIIIIIDE side. One LB just to the outside of the DE. One CB8 yards off the ball (beyond the first down line). One deep safety even with the DE.

If the ball is handed off going towards the wide side of the field, the three receivers (tight ends?) have an easy chance to dominate the edge by double-teaming the DE, and handling the OLB and CB. After that, it's off to the races, assuming the playcall goes to the wide side.
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One of syracuse’s staple plays is trips (spaced out) to the wide side of the field with a swing pass out that way to #1 from the backfield. I hope these alignment issues aren’t a repeated issue on saturday because it would be easy for this defense to get out-leveraged before McCord says, “down, set….”
 
Coach Macho said:
If my kids didn't know how to line-up to a basic formation like this... by week 10+... I'd be blaming myself.
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Is there any scenario you can think of that the call is having the players line up like this? Or is it 99% the lack of a sight adjustment/check by the mike (or whoever is responsible)?

Asking out of curiosity
 
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Coach Macho said:
If my kids didn't know how to line-up to a basic formation like this... by week 10+... I'd be blaming myself.
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This is why I've turned on Guidry. I get he's dealing with a few injuries and lack of depth in the DB room. But first, that's partly on him. Second, the guys out there on the field are athletically gifted enough to play much better ball than they are. Get outcoached or exposed on poor alignments one game, you get a hall pass. But by game 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and now 10, keep getting abused, it's entirely on the coach.

I do think the bye week helped as I didn't see panicked arm waving by the secondary and mislignments all game like I did in previous games. But this is long overdue. I worry we're going to see a lot of backsliding with a more legitimate offense on Saturday.
 
mojoxd said:
Is there any scenario you can think of that the call is having the players line up like this? Or is it 99% the lack of a sight adjustment/check by the mike (or whoever is responsible)?

Asking out of curiosity
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Yeah it could be a failed site adjustment.
To be fair, I just rewatched the game and didn't see this issue again.

At the end of the day, they're kids. Asking them to go a whole course of a game without any misalignments whatsoever is not realistic.
 
After rewatching the game I noticed a ton of single-high Cover-3 looks...which is what I've been asking for.

Meesh was playing the "down" Safety roll. He rolled down post-snap a lot and even blitzed on occasion. It's the best he's looked all season.

I saw fewer voids in the backend and we werent running around like a Chinese fire drill the entire game.

Hoping this is the strategy going forward.
 
bdcane4eva said:
if you listened to guidry in his presser he mentioned them playing with confidence relating to better performance...yeah coach speak to a degree...but noteworthy
AND if you watch replays ( some of us do) - you do see guys pointing at each other or even looking around in confusion and then you see two following one kinda ****
is it POSSIBLE - that perhaps this is more on the players than the coaches as most in here would lead us to believe? is it POSSIBLE that this could be a conversation?
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I don’t understand how a unit can be this confused in week 11 and we’re still blaming players lol
 
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