The Opening 2017 WR's vs DB's

[AUcane]

I'm not seeing it with Brian Hightower. He's neither fluid nor explosive in his movements and seems to lack top end speed.

I'd take a number of other WR's on our board over him.

TBH, that was my very first impression of him. But the more I watched the more I saw a kid who was actually very fluid in and out of his cuts. He is what I call sneaky fast - doesn't look like he's moving fast but he is. Anyway, tifwiw

I'm just not seeing it. He looks awky to me and seems to run with a hitch, I'm curious what he is currently timing at.

I hope I'm wrong but in my view guys like Austin and Thornton are superior prospects.

Yeah I get it- I think he looks that way bc he runs upright. Upright plus long legged equals awkward looking when running. But, look at some spring camp videos where he is smooth with his cuts and while he doesn't look like he's running fast, he is flat out blowing by people.

As per dee - iirc - he runs a 4.5ish (using dee's Virginia tech special hand watch, of course). -

 

[KrazyCane]

I'm not seeing it with Brian Hightower. He's neither fluid nor explosive in his movements and seems to lack top end speed.

I'd take a number of other WR's on our board over him.

TBH, that was my very first impression of him. But the more I watched the more I saw a kid who was actually very fluid in and out of his cuts. He is what I call sneaky fast - doesn't look like he's moving fast but he is. Anyway, tifwiw

I'm just not seeing it. He looks awky to me and seems to run with a hitch, I'm curious what he is currently timing at.

I hope I'm wrong but in my view guys like Austin and Thornton are superior prospects.

Sounds like youre just one of those "fans" that dck ride any player thats not committed.

 

[KrazyCane]

"Im curious to know what he's timing at" "Kevin Austin is a superior talent but i hope im wrong" lol gtfoh

 

[Cans4life]

I'm not seeing it with Brian Hightower. He's neither fluid nor explosive in his movements and seems to lack top end speed.

I'd take a number of other WR's on our board over him.

TBH, that was my very first impression of him. But the more I watched the more I saw a kid who was actually very fluid in and out of his cuts. He is what I call sneaky fast - doesn't look like he's moving fast but he is. Anyway, tifwiw

I'm just not seeing it. He looks awky to me and seems to run with a hitch, I'm curious what he is currently timing at.

I hope I'm wrong but in my view guys like Austin and Thornton are superior prospects.

Sounds like youre just one of those "fans" that dck ride any player thats not committed.

You sound like a woman. The point of a message board is discuss players on our board, whether committed or not you trog.

It's possible for players that we have committed to be worse than players that we don't have committed.

 

[Cans4life]

"Im curious to know what he's timing at" "Kevin Austin is a superior talent but i hope im wrong" lol gtfoh

What does this even mean? Try to form a complete sentence when making posts.

 

[SoFlaSmitty]

My take away. Fun competition for WRs and DBs, never cared for drill when it comes to DB talent. QBs sometimes took 7 seconds to throw a pass giving wr all day to run around. Fun and great stuff just not game realistic.

 

[HurricaneVision]

If you look closely, you'll see only a handful of useful things in these AND1 videos. Some of these kids are horrific in and out of their breaks. Some of the "superstar" DBs look shaky, at best, changing direction. Don't watch who wins the rep. Watch why they win or lose.

1:1 drills just do not tell you all that many fans think it does. You really have to be looking at traits, where and how a player wins, and what fit he is for your particular system.

This post will come off like I know more than others, and I'm not saying I do, but you have to know what you're looking at. The ability to see traits in a player, physical abilities, and then format into what works in your system and what they'll be asked to do is what separates the great program builders from the Larry Coker types who just see overall recruiting rankings in a player.

 

[DMoney]

I'm not seeing it with Brian Hightower. He's neither fluid nor explosive in his movements and seems to lack top end speed.

I'd take a number of other WR's on our board over him.

TBH, that was my very first impression of him. But the more I watched the more I saw a kid who was actually very fluid in and out of his cuts. He is what I call sneaky fast - doesn't look like he's moving fast but he is. Anyway, tifwiw

Agreed. He has an unusual running style but he's quick for a big guy and separates.

He's also very good in contested catch situations. It makes sense that he plays baseball because of how well he tracks the ball.

 

[ILCane2011]

I'm not seeing it with Brian Hightower. He's neither fluid nor explosive in his movements and seems to lack top end speed.

I'd take a number of other WR's on our board over him.

TBH, that was my very first impression of him. But the more I watched the more I saw a kid who was actually very fluid in and out of his cuts. He is what I call sneaky fast - doesn't look like he's moving fast but he is. Anyway, tifwiw

I'm just not seeing it. He looks awky to me and seems to run with a hitch, I'm curious what he is currently timing at.

I hope I'm wrong but in my view guys like Austin and Thornton are superior prospects.

Have you ever seen Austin run? Because your criticism of Hightower is the exact knock people have on Austin.

Hightower won all of his reps on that tape (obviously had a drop). So these DBs must be terrible if you don't see it with Hightower.

And while everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's ridiculous how so many posters just bash every single one of our out of state commits as being inferior to South Florida guys

 

[Maskoff407]

I would have to agree. You can throw a rock out the window and hit a good WR, but a playmaker... now that's different. Elijah Moore is playmaker. Im not to high on Hightower and haven't seen much of Wiggins.

 

[manimal256]

I feel like we go through the same situation every year with wr's like moore. He is very good (maybe elite) in the 7v7 and 1v1 setting, running slants and quick outs or ins. In real games (like fsu or uf) thats not there. You can't be a undersized wr that doesn't have great top end speed and/or high pointing skills. He is a very similar player to Berrios.

 

[AdrianP]

I would have to agree. You can throw a rock out the window and hit a good WR, but a playmaker... now that's different. Elijah Moore is playmaker. Im not to high on Hightower and haven't seen much of Wiggins.

Nah Moore is alright. But every year Miami produces guys like him. 5'10 170 pound guys with quicks are everywhere. Otoh wiggins and Hightower are physicsl freaks with insane ceilings. Hightower and wiggins trumps Moore and Austin any day of the week.

 

[ILCane2011]

I feel like we go through the same situation every year with wr's like moore. He is very good (maybe elite) in the 7v7 and 1v1 setting, running slants and quick outs or ins. In real games (like fsu or uf) thats not there. You can't be a undersized wr that doesn't have great top end speed and/or high pointing skills. He is a very similar player to Berrios.

Berrios is a great comparison for Moore.

Moore looks like a really good slot WR. In most years, he'd definitely be a take. With Thomas and Harley already on the roster, and with Mallory probably also being used in the slot similar to Njoku, it just doesn't seem like Moore has a spot, at least right now.

 

[Gandara]

The more I see our commits, the more impressed I am.
Idk how Pope and blades aren't 5*.
I think Hightower is going to develope into something special

 

[arinand1]

Surtain abused Pope on that 2nd rep.

What??

Pope caught the TD on him.

Yes, he caught the pass after Surtain ran him off his route into linebacker territory. In a game he wouldn't have been an option on the play. Surtain got the W on that rep. Doesn't mean I'm dumping on Pope. He's been a top player according to other reports.

What the **** does "linebacker territory" have to do with it? Were the LBs going to tackle him or jam him after 5 yards? That's called pass interference, friend. In a real game Pope can still cut outside and beat him, which is exactly what he did on that rep.

 

[loreste]

I like Moore I think we should make room for him.

 

[cully]

Hightower is Roy Williams (university of Texas) part 2....

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[AUcane]

Hightower is Roy Williams (university of Texas) part 2....

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Nope. Roy Williams was a legendary athlete coming out of HS - BH, while very good, was never at that level.

 

[Hurricane23]

That was great coverage by Al Blades, the WR just made an amazing one hand grab.

 

[arinand1]

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Man, I don't understand why some people aren't all that high on Hightower. He is one of the smoothest WRs coming out of HS that I've seen in years. Is it perhaps because he doesn't use all the flashy moves like a lot of the other kids? That's the only thing I can think of, because he runs very good routes. Hightower is also VERY deceptively fast (I say deceptively because of his somewhat awkward running style). He doesn't appear to be running all that fast, yet he blows by guys and tends to create separation effortlessly on a consistent basis. Hightower is going to be a beast here.