Sunday scrimmage

[zone3cane]

How in the world do you guys know Gunter can play Safety?

Wait, I know, he's big so he translates well to that position. LOL

Lemme tell yall somethin'...

If you think Highsmith and Rogers look bad at Safety watch what happens when you stick a kid back there who's never played the position before. It would take him atleast a month just to learn the reads and become comfortable. Totally different animal than Corner.

I think Gunter would be able to make plays on instincts alone better then AJ and KC, from the safety position, especially in coverage. He already knows the playbook so it wouldnt be that hard of a transition.... KC and Deon switched from safety to nickelback last year a lot.

There's no way you can just plug him in at Safety RIGHT NOW and he'll start making plays. It's a totally different animal back there at Safety.

Even if he had better instincts than Rogers/Highsmith, the fact that he's getting acclimated to the position and learning the reads would slow him down to the point where he wouldn't be any more serviceable.

Plus, we don't know how good Gunter's instincts are so it's kinda silly to say he would even have that going for him.

It's one thing to know the playbook and/or your responsibilities. It's another thing to have your eyes trained to read things from the Safety position while they're flying at you at 100mph.

Of course you would want to do it in practice and allow Gunter to get acclimated before you just throw him in a game as a safety..... also he still could play CB but also learn the safety position as a secondary position.

I am willing to put any amount of money on it that Gunter would look like a WAY better safety then AJ Highsmith on DAY 1.... he just looks terrible and i assumed he would be better going into Fall Camp.... i think KC is a serviceable safety I like how he has looked based on where he was last year but AJ just looks more of the same.

 

[Coach Macho]

How in the world do you guys know Gunter can play Safety?

Wait, I know, he's big so he translates well to that position. LOL

Lemme tell yall somethin'...

If you think Highsmith and Rogers look bad at Safety watch what happens when you stick a kid back there who's never played the position before. It would take him atleast a month just to learn the reads and become comfortable. Totally different animal than Corner.

I think Gunter would be able to make plays on instincts alone better then AJ and KC, from the safety position, especially in coverage. He already knows the playbook so it wouldnt be that hard of a transition.... KC and Deon switched from safety to nickelback last year a lot.

There's no way you can just plug him in at Safety RIGHT NOW and he'll start making plays. It's a totally different animal back there at Safety.

Even if he had better instincts than Rogers/Highsmith, the fact that he's getting acclimated to the position and learning the reads would slow him down to the point where he wouldn't be any more serviceable.

Plus, we don't know how good Gunter's instincts are so it's kinda silly to say he would even have that going for him.

It's one thing to know the playbook and/or your responsibilities. It's another thing to have your eyes trained to read things from the Safety position while they're flying at you at 100mph.

Of course you would want to do it in practice and allow Gunter to get acclimated before you just throw him in a game as a safety..... also he still could play CB but also learn the safety position as a secondary position.

I am willing to put any amount of money on it that Gunter would look like a WAY better safety then AJ Highsmith on DAY 1.... he just looks terrible and i assumed he would be better going into Fall Camp.... i think KC is a serviceable safety I like how he has looked based on where he was last year but AJ just looks more of the same.

He might be a serviceable Safety, but here's the problem. If you work him at Safety, he's losing the needed reps at CB. And while you're working him at Safety, the other Safeties are losing needed reps. Gunter ends up becoming decent at two positions instead of excellent at ONE.

Have you ever seen a CB flop from Safety and Corner throughout a season?

This type of move is something that's experimented with during spring football, not a couple weeks before the season. Then once the season hits, it's definitely too late. You're trying to prepare for your opponent each week. Ain't no time for experiments.

 

[BlackKeysFan]

How in the world do you guys know Gunter can play Safety?

Wait, I know, he's big so he translates well to that position. LOL

Lemme tell yall somethin'...

If you think Highsmith and Rogers look bad at Safety watch what happens when you stick a kid back there who's never played the position before. It would take him atleast a month just to learn the reads and become comfortable. Totally different animal than Corner.

I think Gunter would be able to make plays on instincts alone better then AJ and KC, from the safety position, especially in coverage. He already knows the playbook so it wouldnt be that hard of a transition.... KC and Deon switched from safety to nickelback last year a lot.

There's no way you can just plug him in at Safety RIGHT NOW and he'll start making plays. It's a totally different animal back there at Safety.

Even if he had better instincts than Rogers/Highsmith, the fact that he's getting acclimated to the position and learning the reads would slow him down to the point where he wouldn't be any more serviceable.

Plus, we don't know how good Gunter's instincts are so it's kinda silly to say he would even have that going for him.

It's one thing to know the playbook and/or your responsibilities. It's another thing to have your eyes trained to read things from the Safety position while they're flying at you at 100mph.

Of course you would want to do it in practice and allow Gunter to get acclimated before you just throw him in a game as a safety..... also he still could play CB but also learn the safety position as a secondary position.

I am willing to put any amount of money on it that Gunter would look like a WAY better safety then AJ Highsmith on DAY 1.... he just looks terrible and i assumed he would be better going into Fall Camp.... i think KC is a serviceable safety I like how he has looked based on where he was last year but AJ just looks more of the same.

He might be a serviceable Safety, but here's the problem. If you work him at Safety, he's losing the needed reps at CB. And while you're working him at Safety, the other Safeties are losing needed reps. Gunter ends up becoming decent at two positions instead of excellent at ONE.

Have you ever seen a CB flop from Safety and Corner throughout a season?

This type of move is something that's experimented with during spring football, not a couple weeks before the season. Then once the season hits, it's definitely too late. You're trying to prepare for your opponent each week. Ain't no time for experiments.

Good points. Just to add, where the **** is all this percieved depth at Corner that we can theoretically just yank our most proven corner over to Safety for the first time? I like our top 3, but Burns is a true freshman who I'd like to see less of than most on the board, just because of inexperience. You can be fast as **** in the wrong coverage and it does us no good, freshman do **** like that. After that, its Elder who has never played, Dortch who is always very close to the guy who ultimately catches the ball against him. Not sure if thats encouraging or not, but i see him more often than not in the offenses highlights. Larry Hope who i literally have no idea what he even looks like.

Gunter is a CB. Safety Depth is fine, 2 good starters, a beast freshman, 2 Seniors who at least know where they are supposed to be, and 2 of our best walkons. I don't understand why Gunter needs to play safety.

 

[canecountry3]

Gunter does not need to play safety.

Jenkins and Bush will play a majority of the time anyway.

Highsmith is getting **** because he is on the bad end of some of the "top plays"... 2 minutes of clips from a 30 minutes session. Nobody is crushing Howard when he gets burnt in "top plays".

 

[Dandycane]

Does this LB named Blue even exist? I know Beamer wanted the dude badly, but he's been a ghost during this off season. Does he exist?

 

[zone3cane]

Gunter does not need to play safety.

Jenkins and Bush will play a majority of the time anyway.

Highsmith is getting **** because he is on the bad end of some of the "top plays"... 2 minutes of clips from a 30 minutes session. Nobody is crushing Howard when he gets burnt in "top plays".

Lol i didnt say Gunter "needs" to play safety b/c like blackkey said... Miami doesnt have the depth at cornerback for that move. I just said as a secondary position i could see him rotating and fitting right in.... it does happen.

I think KC is good enough to be a back-up.... Highsmith is good enough to be a 3rd string back up.

AJ Highsmith is getting **** b/c he is terrible it has nothing to do w/ highlights.... all of our corners have gotten burned but everyone knows the upside and talent that Gunter, Crawford, and Howard have.... that cant be said for Highsmith so i dont even understand why you are trying to compare him to Howard???


Also I dont think its a lock that Jenkins is going to play the majority of snaps b/c i can see him and Jamal Carter splitting reps.... i just wanted to throw that in there.

 

[UMcanesfan420]

Kacy Rodgers horse collared Duke. I'm done with him. If he did it in a game, still a bad play that adds 15 yds. You do it to our best player in practice when you're a guy who has been on the bad end of some crucial plays in the past? Bye. I would rather have Curtis Porter play safety. And I'm pretty forgiving. This was the last straw for me.

 

[canecountry3]

Kacy Rodgers horse collared Duke. I'm done with him. If he did it in a game, still a bad play that adds 15 yds. You do it to our best player in practice when you're a guy who has been on the bad end of some crucial plays in the past? Bye. I would rather have Curtis Porter play safety. And I'm pretty forgiving. This was the last straw for me.

Retarded. Just a patently stupid position. Rodgers better be horse collaring James Wilder if the difference is him scoring a 30+ yard TD. Make the play by any means necessary.

 

[rok]

There were no reports that he went down yesterday. Some guy said he read it somewhere and then couldn't produce where he read it. Sean Harvey got moved because he is now 275 lbs.

If you watch the video from yesterday you see him go down awkwardly and then he didn't return. I have no idea if he's out for one week or if his career is over. I also don't know why Harvey was moved to OL, but I think it has more to do with needing some guys to play OL on the scout team.

Paging Corey King.

I feel like King could handle the switch/transition well. He's the strongest kid on the team, no? Hopefully natural ability/being around the game for so long and his strength makes him capable of doing so.


was going to post this in another thread but might as well throw it in here just to pump everyone up a bit. Just made it. How ******* sick is it that this was Duke's first touch as a Freshman at the University of Miami? This just proves that he bleeds the orange and green of an old school Cane.

Now we wanna be put 6'1" Corey King at Offensive Line too? LOL

Oh lord.

Do you want to see him line up at DT ever again?

 

[rok]

Susan Miller Degnan ‏@smillerdegnan 47m

Can't find #Canes OT Odogwu in practice. Will let you know if he's there.

 

[rok]

Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 1h

Sunny Odogwu has not been seen today. Had foot issue at start of camp.

 

[AUcane]

How in the world do you guys know Gunter can play Safety?

Wait, I know, he's big so he translates well to that position. LOL

Lemme tell yall somethin'...

If you think Highsmith and Rogers look bad at Safety watch what happens when you stick a kid back there who's never played the position before. It would take him atleast a month just to learn the reads and become comfortable. Totally different animal than Corner.

I think Gunter would be able to make plays on instincts alone better then AJ and KC, from the safety position, especially in coverage. He already knows the playbook so it wouldnt be that hard of a transition.... KC and Deon switched from safety to nickelback last year a lot.

There's no way you can just plug him in at Safety RIGHT NOW and he'll start making plays. It's a totally different animal back there at Safety.

Even if he had better instincts than Rogers/Highsmith, the fact that he's getting acclimated to the position and learning the reads would slow him down to the point where he wouldn't be any more serviceable.

Plus, we don't know how good Gunter's instincts are so it's kinda silly to say he would even have that going for him.

It's one thing to know the playbook and/or your responsibilities. It's another thing to have your eyes trained to read things from the Safety position while they're flying at you at 100mph.

Of course you would want to do it in practice and allow Gunter to get acclimated before you just throw him in a game as a safety..... also he still could play CB but also learn the safety position as a secondary position.

I am willing to put any amount of money on it that Gunter would look like a WAY better safety then AJ Highsmith on DAY 1.... he just looks terrible and i assumed he would be better going into Fall Camp.... i think KC is a serviceable safety I like how he has looked based on where he was last year but AJ just looks more of the same.

He might be a serviceable Safety, but here's the problem. If you work him at Safety, he's losing the needed reps at CB. And while you're working him at Safety, the other Safeties are losing needed reps. Gunter ends up becoming decent at two positions instead of excellent at ONE.

Have you ever seen a CB flop from Safety and Corner throughout a season?

This type of move is something that's experimented with during spring football, not a couple weeks before the season. Then once the season hits, it's definitely too late. You're trying to prepare for your opponent each week. Ain't no time for experiments.

This. Things like understanding angles/depth, reading routes, reading QB eyes, etc., take a WHILE to get acclimated to. Has nothing to do with athletic ability.

 

[OldhamA]

Kacy Rodgers horse collared Duke. I'm done with him. If he did it in a game, still a bad play that adds 15 yds. You do it to our best player in practice when you're a guy who has been on the bad end of some crucial plays in the past? Bye. I would rather have Curtis Porter play safety. And I'm pretty forgiving. This was the last straw for me.

He should be running laps from now until the season starts.

Moronic play.

 

[rok]

Rodgers would have received death threats if he had seriously injured Duke.

 

[zone3cane]

I think Gunter would be able to make plays on instincts alone better then AJ and KC, from the safety position, especially in coverage. He already knows the playbook so it wouldnt be that hard of a transition.... KC and Deon switched from safety to nickelback last year a lot.

There's no way you can just plug him in at Safety RIGHT NOW and he'll start making plays. It's a totally different animal back there at Safety.

Even if he had better instincts than Rogers/Highsmith, the fact that he's getting acclimated to the position and learning the reads would slow him down to the point where he wouldn't be any more serviceable.

Plus, we don't know how good Gunter's instincts are so it's kinda silly to say he would even have that going for him.

It's one thing to know the playbook and/or your responsibilities. It's another thing to have your eyes trained to read things from the Safety position while they're flying at you at 100mph.

Of course you would want to do it in practice and allow Gunter to get acclimated before you just throw him in a game as a safety..... also he still could play CB but also learn the safety position as a secondary position.

I am willing to put any amount of money on it that Gunter would look like a WAY better safety then AJ Highsmith on DAY 1.... he just looks terrible and i assumed he would be better going into Fall Camp.... i think KC is a serviceable safety I like how he has looked based on where he was last year but AJ just looks more of the same.

He might be a serviceable Safety, but here's the problem. If you work him at Safety, he's losing the needed reps at CB. And while you're working him at Safety, the other Safeties are losing needed reps. Gunter ends up becoming decent at two positions instead of excellent at ONE.

Have you ever seen a CB flop from Safety and Corner throughout a season?

This type of move is something that's experimented with during spring football, not a couple weeks before the season. Then once the season hits, it's definitely too late. You're trying to prepare for your opponent each week. Ain't no time for experiments.

This. Things like understanding angles/depth, reading routes, reading QB eyes, etc., take a WHILE to get acclimated to. Has nothing to do with athletic ability.

Gunter and all of our CBs have been playing zone 20 yards back anyways they understand angles/depth and reading routes and reading the QBs eyes.... they arent just playing press man all day.

It has everything to do with athletic ability imo..... You cant teach instincts, guys who just know how to find the ball, thats why no matter how many years AJ Highsmith is a safety, he will never make a significant play no matter how well he understands the safety position.

I have no doubt in my mind that L. Gunter and even A. Burns could make more of an impact at safety over anybody not named D. Bush, R. Jenkins, and J. Carter on this team.

 

[rok]

I win


Matt Porter ‏@mattyports 3h

Odogwu was not seen at practice today. Source said he was injured in Sunday's scrimmage and had x-rays on it yesterday.

 

[rok]

Good news:

A source said the 6-foot-8, 325-pound freshman suffered a meniscus injury in Sunday’s scrimmage and had x-rays on it Monday. The source said the injury is “not serious” and expects Odogwu to return to practice this week.

 

[JHallCanes]

Kacy Rodgers horse collared Duke. I'm done with him. If he did it in a game, still a bad play that adds 15 yds. You do it to our best player in practice when you're a guy who has been on the bad end of some crucial plays in the past? Bye. I would rather have Curtis Porter play safety. And I'm pretty forgiving. This was the last straw for me.

Retarded. Just a patently stupid position. Rodgers better be horse collaring James Wilder if the difference is him scoring a 30+ yard TD. Make the play by any means necessary.

Retarded. Just a patently stupid position.

 

[Coach Macho]

If you watch the video from yesterday you see him go down awkwardly and then he didn't return. I have no idea if he's out for one week or if his career is over. I also don't know why Harvey was moved to OL, but I think it has more to do with needing some guys to play OL on the scout team.

Paging Corey King.

I feel like King could handle the switch/transition well. He's the strongest kid on the team, no? Hopefully natural ability/being around the game for so long and his strength makes him capable of doing so.


was going to post this in another thread but might as well throw it in here just to pump everyone up a bit. Just made it. How ******* sick is it that this was Duke's first touch as a Freshman at the University of Miami? This just proves that he bleeds the orange and green of an old school Cane.

Now we wanna be put 6'1" Corey King at Offensive Line too? LOL

Oh lord.

Do you want to see him line up at DT ever again?

I'd like to atleast see him get a chance to DEVELOP at DT.

Moving a 6'1" guy to O-line though? No.

 

[LuCane]

CORAL GABLES — The first rehearsal went well for at least two high-profile Miami freshmen. Without looking at stats, coach Al Golden could say Miramar LB Jermaine Grace and Miami CB Artie Burns were a cut above."Jermaine Grace made you take notice of him," Golden said. "So we sat in there and put him on all the special teams last night and gave him a chance."For Burns, "the moment wasn't too big for him," Golden said.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-miami-news-0814-20130813,0,6451208.story

My dude Jermaine Grace. Love what that guy brings to the table. Might be the most natural LB on the team...right now. Let's see how he develops.​