Stephen Ross to Fund Stadium Renovations

[niner]

I am nowhere near being satisfied. The renovations will not include moving seats closer or a dome. Thy will prob add some um banners and call it a day

Every article I have read talks about adding seats closer and adding a canopy for shade and cover from rain.

 

[Cane7451]

This is as good as the schools wants it to get unfortunately. We should not accept this.

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Why does everyone including me still love the Orange Bowl days that had all the same issues as SLS with the exception of the narrow sidelines at the OB? Both SLS and the OB are far from UM's campus. Both UM and the Dolphins shared the same OB for a long time together. Both the OB and SLS were too large for our fan base for many of our seasons. The OB just like SLS are stadiums we leased and never owned.

Anyone that has ever been to UM's campus or knows anything about Coral Gables knows UM will never have a on campus stadium for many many reasons.

To me the biggest issue between the happy days of the OB and SLS are just that we were winning back when we think of the OB and have struggled ever since we joined the ACC even in the old OB. I think winning again would fix our issues with SLS.

Sure, a lot of it is just missing the glory days. The old lady was like our Wrigley Field...old, loud, and intimate. Weather it was downtown in the background, unique parking locations, city of Miami police nowhere near as anal as MDPD. There are a myriad of reasons why people (me included) complain. But truth is, Sun Life IS what we have right now, it IS convenient to a lot of people from the tri counties, and when it's full (UF game) everyone raved about it. I'm not one to keep reiterating the whole "just win" mantra, but in this case it's the truth.

The new upgrades could wind up being awesome for all we know. But winning and asses in the seats and tailgating are what make the environment better.

Except for the small fact that the OB was ~20min (students had access to the metro) from campus and SLS is ~40-45min (students are forced to take buses or drive).

That makes a HUGE difference.

That not correct on the time to get to SLS or the OB on game day. LOL at your Metro Rail idea that even after you got off the Metro Rail it took 20 minutes for a bus to get from Culmer Station on 11th Street and cross the Miami River at the 12th Av bridge which is a bottle neck in grid lock traffic as you fight to turn up 7th Street to the old OB. Few students took the Metro to the OB since Culmer Station was a bad *** place to wait for a city bus to get you to the stadium. UM still had lots buses for students direct from campus and they were stuck in grid lock around the stadium a lot longer than 20 minutes. Just coming up from the south crossing Flagler St took 20 minutes alone in that traffic to OB for the student buses.

SLS or OB were takes about similar amount of time driving on game day since SLS has such better road access (Turnpike & I-95 Exp) than the OB. UM timed drive time in both SLS & OB and there was no major differences in drive time due to traffic conditions. Google just quoted me 28 minutes driving time between UM and SLS on Wednesday mourning traffic. Also, the vast majority of UM students don't even live on campus. Per UM's records 61% of the undergrad students live off campus and Grad students are not allowed to live on campus.

 

[Cane7451]

Why does everyone including me still love the Orange Bowl days that had all the same issues as SLS with the exception of the narrow sidelines at the OB? Both SLS and the OB are far from UM's campus. Both UM and the Dolphins shared the same OB for a long time together. Both the OB and SLS were too large for our fan base for many of our seasons. The OB just like SLS are stadiums we leased and never owned.

Anyone that has ever been to UM's campus or knows anything about Coral Gables knows UM will never have a on campus stadium for many many reasons.

To me the biggest issue between the happy days of the OB and SLS are just that we were winning back when we think of the OB and have struggled ever since we joined the ACC even in the old OB. I think winning again would fix our issues with SLS.

Sure, a lot of it is just missing the glory days. The old lady was like our Wrigley Field...old, loud, and intimate. Weather it was downtown in the background, unique parking locations, city of Miami police nowhere near as anal as MDPD. There are a myriad of reasons why people (me included) complain. But truth is, Sun Life IS what we have right now, it IS convenient to a lot of people from the tri counties, and when it's full (UF game) everyone raved about it. I'm not one to keep reiterating the whole "just win" mantra, but in this case it's the truth.

The new upgrades could wind up being awesome for all we know. But winning and asses in the seats and tailgating are what make the environment better.

Except for the small fact that the OB was ~20min (students had access to the metro) from campus and SLS is ~40-45min (students are forced to take buses or drive).

That makes a HUGE difference.

IMO it wasn't the student section at the OB that made it a great home field.

I have to respectfully disagree. It was the closed end. It was the west end zone and it was teams having to call plays in that part of the field. Of course there were other things that were great too. The talent in the Stident section was great.

Maybe I am missing something or having a brain fart but at the OB the students section was on the open end near the score board not the West End Zone. The WEZ was a general seating area for fans that had those tickets. Students were on the other end of the stadium. I sat in the WEZ a few times and it had a Legion of Doom fans not students. I had season tickets in section W where a lot of the players family watched the game that wasn't far from the WEZ. The WEZ was like the the Wild Wild West.

I guess what made the OB great was different to everyone. For me I loved that eerie sound the OB stadium would make that happened when we stomped our feet. It was like the OB could sing and I have seen visiting players on the field turn around to try to see what was that strange sound that sent chills down their backs.

 

[AntwanJ306]

That not correct on the time to get to SLS or the OB on game day. LOL at your Metro Rail idea that even after you got off the Metro Rail it took 20 minutes for a bus to get from Culmer Station on 11th Street and cross the Miami River at the 12th Av bridge which is a bottle neck in grid lock traffic as you fight to turn up 7th Street to the old OB. Few students took the Metro to the OB since Culmer Station was a bad *** place to wait for a city bus to get you to the stadium. UM still had lots buses for students direct from campus and they were stuck in grid lock around the stadium a lot longer than 20 minutes. Just coming up from the south crossing Flagler St took 20 minutes alone in that traffic to OB for the student buses.

SLS or OB were takes about similar amount of time driving on game day since SLS has such better road access (Turnpike & I-95 Exp) than the OB. UM timed drive time in both SLS & OB and there was no major differences in drive time due to traffic conditions. Google just quoted me 28 minutes driving time between UM and SLS on Wednesday mourning traffic. Also, the vast majority of UM students don't even live on campus. Per UM's records 61% of the undergrad students live off campus and Grad students are not allowed to live on campus.

You have to be absolutely stoned to believe that the drive times to the OB and SLS are/were the same. Anyone with half a brain knew how to use the back roads to get to the OB while you were sitting on Flagler in traffic.

 

[Cane7451]

That not correct on the time to get to SLS or the OB on game day. LOL at your Metro Rail idea that even after you got off the Metro Rail it took 20 minutes for a bus to get from Culmer Station on 11th Street and cross the Miami River at the 12th Av bridge which is a bottle neck in grid lock traffic as you fight to turn up 7th Street to the old OB. Few students took the Metro to the OB since Culmer Station was a bad *** place to wait for a city bus to get you to the stadium. UM still had lots buses for students direct from campus and they were stuck in grid lock around the stadium a lot longer than 20 minutes. Just coming up from the south crossing Flagler St took 20 minutes alone in that traffic to OB for the student buses.

SLS or OB were takes about similar amount of time driving on game day since SLS has such better road access (Turnpike & I-95 Exp) than the OB. UM timed drive time in both SLS & OB and there was no major differences in drive time due to traffic conditions. Google just quoted me 28 minutes driving time between UM and SLS on Wednesday mourning traffic. Also, the vast majority of UM students don't even live on campus. Per UM's records 61% of the undergrad students live off campus and Grad students are not allowed to live on campus.

You have to be absolutely stoned to believe that the drive times to the OB and SLS are/were the same. Anyone with half a brain knew how to use the back roads to get to the OB while you were sitting on Flagler in traffic.

I was talking about crossing Flagler not driving on Flagler. The UM bus dropped students off from driving up 16th Ave from Flagler at the OB. Which was heavy traffic as people were looking for yards to park their car in and walk to the OB.

What ever this is the rout UM tells students to drive to SLS and it is only 26 minutes now from campus. UM direction for driving to SLS. Stop pretending it takes 45 minutes to drive to SLS on game day since that is BS when the trip is about 25 minutes.

Also, UM's site tells students "Buses run from Sanford Circle beginning 90 minutes prior to kickoff" so they have no problems getting to SLS for games since it is a quick trip.

 

[Cane7451]

The University of Miami Announces Support for Sun Life Stadium Modernization

 

[Cane Dynasty]

The University of Miami Announces Support for Sun Life Stadium Modernization

I'm guessing that means Beckham stadium is a no go.

 

[M3N]

The University of Miami Announces Support for Sun Life Stadium Modernization

I'm guessing that means Beckham stadium is a no go.

UM could care less about where we play FB. They would endorse play at Traz...

 

[112_cane]

I am nowhere near being satisfied. The renovations will not include moving seats closer or a dome. Thy will prob add some um banners and call it a day

Every article I have read talks about adding seats closer and adding a canopy for shade and cover from rain.

You are correct. The first row will be 18 feet closer to the field then now. Seats will be removed from the upper deck for the roof and the 4 jumbo trons. Seats will be removed from the corners of the lower deck as well. Add into the fact that the new seats will also be wider that will also reduce the overall capacity.

 

[Cane7451]

The University of Miami Announces Support for Sun Life Stadium Modernization

I'm guessing that means Beckham stadium is a no go.

UM could care less about where we play FB. They would endorse play at Traz...

That works two ways. If the fans cared enough to show up to buy game tickets and fill up the stadium like the other big teams we would have a stadium. Everyone that whines about SLS only plan is let someone else pay for building it which is why the Hurricane Club has less than 7K members with memberships starts as low as $50 a year.

 

[dhouze]

Don't know about your correct times. Mine were 20 minutes to and 30 mins from OB

Now it's 45 -70 minutes to and 90 (FAU)-180(FSU) from SLS (I-95 south to Coconut Grove) Try it some time. You'll hate games at SLS. Even an improved SLS.

 

[Consigliere]

That works two ways. If the fans cared enough to show up to buy game tickets and fill up the stadium like the other big teams we would have a stadium. Everyone that whines about SLS only plan is let someone else pay for building it which is why the Hurricane Club has less than 7K members with memberships starts as low as $50 a year.

A few things

1. First, we will never have enough fans to regularly fill SLS. No matter how good or how bad, we just can't do it. Knowing this we play in a stadium that is inadequate to our needs. Our stadium offers nothing in terms of home field advantage. Not that home field advantage is important.

2. Second, the fans are the fans. They come when they can and they support how they want to support, this is always a constant. Let's assume we are able to sell 30,000 season tickets each year. Let's assume that with students, individual sales and away teams we add another 15,000 per game. That is an average of 45,000 tickets (if everyone shows) for a stadium that holds 76,000. This is like trying to wear your dad's suit when your 15 years old. Sure it's a suit but it's way too big and doesn't fit for the 5 out of 6 times you will wear it. This stadium will never improve the game day experience for the canes.

My guess is regardless of the opponent we have about 40-45K fans that will come out and support the team (regardless of the opponent).The best situation would be a 50,000 seat place that we can have to ourselves.

3. Fans versus Administration: I think our fans suck. I think our administration sucks as well. The fans suck because they don't do their part and usually just complain on message boards and their local pow wow. The administration sucks because this stadium is not a priority for them. We have no long term plan in place for getting our own stadium.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

That works two ways. If the fans cared enough to show up to buy game tickets and fill up the stadium like the other big teams we would have a stadium. Everyone that whines about SLS only plan is let someone else pay for building it which is why the Hurricane Club has less than 7K members with memberships starts as low as $50 a year.

A few things

1. First, we will never have enough fans to regularly fill SLS. No matter how good or how bad, we just can't do it. Knowing this we play in a stadium that is inadequate to our needs. Our stadium offers nothing in terms of home field advantage. Not that home field advantage is important.

2. Second, the fans are the fans. They come when they can and they support how they want to support, this is always a constant. Let's assume we are able to sell 30,000 season tickets each year. Let's assume that with students, individual sales and away teams we add another 15,000 per game. That is an average of 45,000 tickets (if everyone shows) for a stadium that holds 76,000. This is like trying to wear your dad's suit when your 15 years old. Sure it's a suit but it's way too big and doesn't fit for the 5 out of 6 times you will wear it. This stadium will never improve the game day experience for the canes.

My guess is regardless of the opponent we have about 40-45K fans that will come out and support the team (regardless of the opponent).The best situation would be a 50,000 seat place that we can have to ourselves.

3. Fans versus Administration: I think our fans suck. I think our administration sucks as well. The fans suck because they don't do their part and usually just complain on message boards and their local pow wow. The administration sucks because this s̶t̶a̶d̶i̶u̶m̶ team is not a priority for them. We have no long term plan in place for getting our own stadium.

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[Cane7451]

That works two ways. If the fans cared enough to show up to buy game tickets and fill up the stadium like the other big teams we would have a stadium. Everyone that whines about SLS only plan is let someone else pay for building it which is why the Hurricane Club has less than 7K members with memberships starts as low as $50 a year.

A few things

1. First, we will never have enough fans to regularly fill SLS. No matter how good or how bad, we just can't do it. Knowing this we play in a stadium that is inadequate to our needs. Our stadium offers nothing in terms of home field advantage. Not that home field advantage is important.

2. Second, the fans are the fans. They come when they can and they support how they want to support, this is always a constant. Let's assume we are able to sell 30,000 season tickets each year. Let's assume that with students, individual sales and away teams we add another 15,000 per game. That is an average of 45,000 tickets (if everyone shows) for a stadium that holds 76,000. This is like trying to wear your dad's suit when your 15 years old. Sure it's a suit but it's way too big and doesn't fit for the 5 out of 6 times you will wear it. This stadium will never improve the game day experience for the canes.

My guess is regardless of the opponent we have about 40-45K fans that will come out and support the team (regardless of the opponent).The best situation would be a 50,000 seat place that we can have to ourselves.

3. Fans versus Administration: I think our fans suck. I think our administration sucks as well. The fans suck because they don't do their part and usually just complain on message boards and their local pow wow. The administration sucks because this stadium is not a priority for them. We have no long term plan in place for getting our own stadium.

A few things. Bottom line if Canes fans don't want to pay for a new stadium by supporting the team then we won't ever get one. A English soccer guy that doesn't care about UM isn't going to build UM a stadium. The City of Miami/Dade County isn't going to build UM a stadium.

The best and only deal on the table is the SLS upgrade that is the only show in town.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

There isn't a way I could possibly disagree more with the statement above.

Staying in SLS, upgraded or not, is about the worst thing that can happen to this program.

Pray to everything that you believe in that the "English guy" saves our *** and gets us out of that abortion of a stadium.

 

[FullyERicht]

SMU basketball program got tired of being bad. No one went to the games.

So they bought Larry Brown, paid Jancovich a boatload to be HCIW, and spent 50 million on stadium renovations.

Private school in a metro area with lots to do, poor fan support, and in a lower conference.

But their admin wanted to win and got it done. They are now a top 25 team headed to the tourney.

No excuse for us to be where we are as a program. Our admin just doesn't care.

 

[AntwanJ306]

What ever this is the rout UM tells students to drive to SLS and it is only 26 minutes now from campus.

Bro, that time estimate is with ZERO traffic. As in, the roads have been cleared just for you. That's not reality. You can spend 15 minutes in traffic on US 1 alone. Quit being disingenuous with your numbers. It's a 40 minute drive. We would get from Mahoney-Pearson to a spot in someone's yard in 15 minutes at the OB. It's 6 miles away. Your argument is beyond absurd.

 

[Tad Footeball]

 

[Consigliere]

A few things. Bottom line if Canes fans don't want to pay for a new stadium by supporting the team then we won't ever get one. A English soccer guy that doesn't care about UM isn't going to build UM a stadium. The City of Miami/Dade County isn't going to build UM a stadium.

The best and only deal on the table is the SLS upgrade that is the only show in town.

False, false and false. Agree to disagree.

 

[cane since birth]

SMU basketball program got tired of being bad. No one went to the games.

So they bought Larry Brown, paid Jancovich a boatload to be HCIW, and spent 50 million on stadium renovations.

Private school in a metro area with lots to do, poor fan support, and in a lower conference.

But their admin wanted to win and got it done. They are now a top 25 team headed to the tourney.

No excuse for us to be where we are as a program. Our admin just doesn't care.

Can you just follow another team please